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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 25 2012 06:25 GMT
#21
1984 is a depressed story, but it didn't depress me... anyone else feel that way? I guess I looked past the depressing parts and focused more on the political side, and somehow that didn't depress me :/
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1306 Posts
March 25 2012 06:31 GMT
#22
On March 25 2012 15:25 iGrok wrote:
1984 is a depressed story, but it didn't depress me... anyone else feel that way? I guess I looked past the depressing parts and focused more on the political side, and somehow that didn't depress me :/


It depressed me expressly because I focused more on the political side ><

If I could read it just as a fictional story it wouldn't have touched me, but it's very relevance to reality is kinda depressing, cos that's what governments are really like...

Maybe I'm just strange in this, but when I read the trilogy following Rendezvous With Rama (which i'm told was not very popular, the trilogy that is) I was also pretty depressed despite what I think was supposed to be a uplifting overall theme. Because the fiction parts of it I felt a certain distance from, but reading on how society totally falls apart and emphasises the worst in humankind seemed not only totally realistic, but pretty much inevitable if we were actually put into such a situation.

Maybe I just have an exceedingly low opinion of humanity, and reading about the negative aspects both resonates with me strongly and depresses me ><
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
March 25 2012 06:31 GMT
#23
You should read Dune or Neuromancer.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 06:38:12
March 25 2012 06:36 GMT
#24
On March 25 2012 15:31 Sinensis wrote:
You should read Dune or Neuromancer.

Two excellent books, and very well written as well, but neither are that depressing.

On March 25 2012 15:31 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 15:25 iGrok wrote:
1984 is a depressed story, but it didn't depress me... anyone else feel that way? I guess I looked past the depressing parts and focused more on the political side, and somehow that didn't depress me :/


It depressed me expressly because I focused more on the political side ><

If I could read it just as a fictional story it wouldn't have touched me, but it's very relevance to reality is kinda depressing, cos that's what governments are really like...

Maybe I'm just strange in this, but when I read the trilogy following Rendezvous With Rama (which i'm told was not very popular, the trilogy that is) I was also pretty depressed despite what I think was supposed to be a uplifting overall theme. Because the fiction parts of it I felt a certain distance from, but reading on how society totally falls apart and emphasises the worst in humankind seemed not only totally realistic, but pretty much inevitable if we were actually put into such a situation.

Maybe I just have an exceedingly low opinion of humanity, and reading about the negative aspects both resonates with me strongly and depresses me ><

Honestly Brave New World is a much more accurate description of modern American life. Is Australia closer to 1984? From what I've read, it would appear so, but having only been once (when I was 8) can't say from experience.
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Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
March 25 2012 06:38 GMT
#25
1984
Animal Farm
Steppenwolf

Fuck catcher in the rye, fuck that book, it's fucking stupid, boring, and WAY overhyped. Don't waist your time with that garbage.

Also read ALL of Kurt Vonnegut, that man was a genius.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1306 Posts
March 25 2012 06:49 GMT
#26
On March 25 2012 15:36 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 15:31 Sinensis wrote:
You should read Dune or Neuromancer.

Two excellent books, and very well written as well, but neither are that depressing.

Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 15:31 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On March 25 2012 15:25 iGrok wrote:
1984 is a depressed story, but it didn't depress me... anyone else feel that way? I guess I looked past the depressing parts and focused more on the political side, and somehow that didn't depress me :/


It depressed me expressly because I focused more on the political side ><

If I could read it just as a fictional story it wouldn't have touched me, but it's very relevance to reality is kinda depressing, cos that's what governments are really like...

Maybe I'm just strange in this, but when I read the trilogy following Rendezvous With Rama (which i'm told was not very popular, the trilogy that is) I was also pretty depressed despite what I think was supposed to be a uplifting overall theme. Because the fiction parts of it I felt a certain distance from, but reading on how society totally falls apart and emphasises the worst in humankind seemed not only totally realistic, but pretty much inevitable if we were actually put into such a situation.

Maybe I just have an exceedingly low opinion of humanity, and reading about the negative aspects both resonates with me strongly and depresses me ><

Honestly Brave New World is a much more accurate description of modern American life. Is Australia closer to 1984? From what I've read, it would appear so, but having only been once (when I was 8) can't say from experience.


Actually Australia has been good so far on these things. I generally agree with how much power is given the the government, and while there have been a few fairly incompetent or uncharismatic leaderships, they generally don't actually seem to be malevolent. So in general I find that life in Australia has almost been an exception to the rule of how I think humanity tends to act.

I guess it might just be that on the geopolitical stage, Australia doesn't really have much power or say in things, but we manage to have a fairly good quality of life due to natural abundance/low population.

Maybe the age old adage holds true, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Since we don't have much power, it works out for us :D
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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 11:36:57
March 25 2012 11:34 GMT
#27
Edit: Oh shit, just saw that you don't like classics. So consider my post null and void, most of it are classics unfortunately, my bad. Sorry.
I love these threads. I totally stole all those book ideas :D As someone already recommended "All quiet on the western front" is good (all of Remarque's stuff is pretty depressing), Steppenwolf (Hesse is my absolute favorite but always gives depressing events a positive look at the end) is great. One of the big dystopias that is still missing here is "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin. Have you ever read Kafka, that might definitely be up your alley. Maybe start with "In the Penal Colony" or "The Judgment" or "The Trial", hell, read all of his works! One book that made me feel really bad but is not necessarily depressing is "Flowers for Algernon" by DAniel Keyes. Another good one might be Bertolt Brecht, he was famous for his social commentary in his plays like "Mother Courage and her Children", "The good person of Szechwan", "The three-penny Opera" or "Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny". You've also probably heard of Edgar Allan Poe. That's all I can think of right now.
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HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
March 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#28
I've come to think Catcher in the Rye is a young man's book. There's a lot of stuff in there that I think is especially relevant to the mental state that comes with being 20-30, or at least that's what I got from it when I read it.

I think most of the stuff I'd recommend for you has already been spoken for here, but I'd encourage you to read Infinite Jest. That book is so awesome once you get past the funky style.
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 13:12:46
March 25 2012 13:10 GMT
#29
Definitely catcher in the rye man. the book completely changed my life and how i view the world. I absolutely fell in love with holden caulfield and i think there's a bit of holden in everyone in the world. I especially love the narrative in holden's point of view. I would recommend this book to really anyone in the world

and the book will leave u depressed at the phoniness in society and the loss of innocence.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
March 25 2012 13:11 GMT
#30
Has no one mentioned 'Things Fall Apart' by Chinua Achebe?

C'mon, guys.....it's a classic.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 13:13:01
March 25 2012 13:12 GMT
#31
Hunger by Knut Hamsun seems to be the kind of book you're looking for. Bleak, depressing, altogether a bummer.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 25 2012 13:26 GMT
#32
'Depressing in nature'?

EVIL by Ash Ketchum.. hard to read, lots of emotions, depressing as hell. Very well written and complimented by Stephen King.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 25 2012 13:35 GMT
#33
The Road is an absolute masterpiece imho.
L'Etranger de Camus. Yeah it's a classic I guess, but it also is a masterpiece.
Cioran comes to mind too, even though it's philosophy, it'(s hard to be more depressing (someone might jump at me for this but anyway).
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 25 2012 13:40 GMT
#34
if you want something a little more modern but still depressing etc i'd recommend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomised its really good and very well written. it also talk about the world in the depressing manner you seem to want. it talks about sex in quite a frank manner though which depending on your sensibilities may be a positive or a negative but it is worth bearing in mind.
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procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
March 25 2012 14:27 GMT
#35
Disgrace is masterfully written. John Coetzee walks the tightrope of the finest literature.

I wouldn't point you towards The Road, as it is ultimately plaster bound to fall off the walls. Instead, read Suttree and Blood Meridian, McCarthy's two masterpieces.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
March 25 2012 15:04 GMT
#36
Run, don't walk, to the bookstore and get yourself a copy of White Noise by Don DeLillo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Noise_(novel)

I love that book. And, it features an Airborne Toxic Event. About how many stories can you say that?
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forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
March 25 2012 16:14 GMT
#37
I recommend: The Serious Game (Den Allvarsamma Leken) by Hjalmar Söderberg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Serious_Game
and/or The Clown Jac (Clownen Jac) by Hjalmar Bergman.

Great books.
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bigtime01
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
March 25 2012 16:19 GMT
#38
As long as you're inclined to read Orwell, I recommend Down and Out in Paris and London, which is about a writer living in poverty in Paris and homeless in London. It is a work of fiction, but apparently is somewhat autobiographical, and should be more directly 'depressing' than his other offerings.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
March 25 2012 16:27 GMT
#39
I wouldn't like to recommend a book but a video game, only because this was the first thing that came into my mind after reading the OP.
The Path http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_path_video_game
Probably the creepiest and most depressing game I've ever played.

It's about modern-ish stereotypes presented through the story of Little Red Riding Hood.


On another note:
Brave new world is indeed a good book.
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Solarized
Profile Joined March 2012
United States11 Posts
March 25 2012 20:16 GMT
#40
American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis is fairly dark and depressing. I think that it hits all the benchmarks that you wrote about in the OP.

A Scanner Darkly by Philip K. Dick is a fun read.
While Dick is known primarily as a science fiction writer, A Scanner Darkly is not at all science fiction. If you're into the psychology of drug addiction and how addiction affects the human mind and body, then check A Scanner Darkly out.

Both novels could be considered modern.
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