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zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
March 21 2012 04:25 GMT
#21
I'm sorry but there's really no reason you shouldn't be able to train and improve and go to school at the same time. If you're as serious as you say you are, you should have no problem getting to masters (or even grandmasters) playing casually while taking care of your other responsibilities It's not even worth considering dropping out and going pro until you reach a high level on ladder. Why don't you try to reach masters or grandmasters by the end of the summer, and then go from there?
Sc2Corpse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States210 Posts
March 21 2012 04:26 GMT
#22
Guys, I am technically not dropping out, just taking a a couple semesters off to see how far I can get with this dream of mine, I am 18 so I am still young, plenty of time left to attend College.
The Zombie Protoss <3
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
March 21 2012 04:28 GMT
#23
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 13:12 RedJustice wrote:
Pokebunny and cz have the best advice-- don't give up if you are passionate about it, but leaving school may not be the best solution.

It seems you are already working, which can take away your time. Do you mind explaining what about school (whether it be the school you attend is so very difficult, your particular major, etc) that is keeping you from being able to spend time gaming more? Are you doing other activities that are a time suck? There may be solutions to free up more of your time than you think you have. Someone who can be very helpful for this is a learning resource specialist that many schools may offer as a resource. These people aren't just for someone who has a disability. They can help you with things like time management so that you can get things done very efficiently and have more free time.


Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like.


Hmmm. Please take this as a serious attempt to help and not just bragging-- I have the personal experience of working 2 jobs while taking 30 hours of class a week at an Ivy-League school. I am not majoring in Comp Sci but as you can see I do have large constraints on my own time. I know however that it would be possible for me to commit at least 30 hours a week to sc2 if that was my goal. 30 hours a week is a good chunk of time to devote to getting better. Of course this implies eating meals in my room, and not going out with friends more than once a week for dinner, and not joining other activities. I am almost positive there are ways you could find to devote more time to sc2.

If your struggles with understanding some subjects and completing the homework are really sucking up all your time (and also it would seem discouraging you in your school work), you should really consider getting tutoring and extra help. Another idea to consider honestly is why you are studying an area you have so much difficulty with. You don't seem particularly passionate about it if you are willing to give it up easily for something else. Have you thought about switching majors to something you have an easier time with and enjoy more? That tends to help you have a lot more free time.
Sc2Corpse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States210 Posts
March 21 2012 04:29 GMT
#24
On March 21 2012 13:25 zOula... wrote:
I'm sorry but there's really no reason you shouldn't be able to train and improve and go to school at the same time. If you're as serious as you say you are, you should have no problem getting to masters (or even grandmasters) playing casually while taking care of your other responsibilities It's not even worth considering dropping out and going pro until you reach a high level on ladder. Why don't you try to reach masters or grandmasters by the end of the summer, and then go from there?


Yea, this does make sense, my summer break starts in a month so I may just play tell its over and make my decision at the end of it.
The Zombie Protoss <3
Sc2Corpse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States210 Posts
March 21 2012 04:32 GMT
#25
On March 21 2012 13:28 RedJustice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:12 RedJustice wrote:
Pokebunny and cz have the best advice-- don't give up if you are passionate about it, but leaving school may not be the best solution.

It seems you are already working, which can take away your time. Do you mind explaining what about school (whether it be the school you attend is so very difficult, your particular major, etc) that is keeping you from being able to spend time gaming more? Are you doing other activities that are a time suck? There may be solutions to free up more of your time than you think you have. Someone who can be very helpful for this is a learning resource specialist that many schools may offer as a resource. These people aren't just for someone who has a disability. They can help you with things like time management so that you can get things done very efficiently and have more free time.


Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like.


Hmmm. Please take this as a serious attempt to help and not just bragging-- I have the personal experience of working 2 jobs while taking 30 hours of class a week at an Ivy-League school. I am not majoring in Comp Sci but as you can see I do have large constraints on my own time. I know however that it would be possible for me to commit at least 30 hours a week to sc2 if that was my goal. 30 hours a week is a good chunk of time to devote to getting better. Of course this implies eating meals in my room, and not going out with friends more than once a week for dinner, and not joining other activities. I am almost positive there are ways you could find to devote more time to sc2.

If your struggles with understanding some subjects and completing the homework are really sucking up all your time (and also it would seem discouraging you in your school work), you should really consider getting tutoring and extra help. Another idea to consider honestly is why you are studying an area you have so much difficulty with. You don't seem particularly passionate about it if you are willing to give it up easily for something else. Have you thought about switching majors to something you have an easier time with and enjoy more? That tends to help you have a lot more free time.


To be honest, there aren't any Majors that interest me, I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry, School and studying was NEVER my thing I am attending College so I wont end up working at Mcdonalds the rest of my life lol
The Zombie Protoss <3
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 04:41:55
March 21 2012 04:41 GMT
#26
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dazed
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada191 Posts
March 21 2012 04:44 GMT
#27
On March 21 2012 13:32 Sc2Corpse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 13:28 RedJustice wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:12 RedJustice wrote:
Pokebunny and cz have the best advice-- don't give up if you are passionate about it, but leaving school may not be the best solution.

It seems you are already working, which can take away your time. Do you mind explaining what about school (whether it be the school you attend is so very difficult, your particular major, etc) that is keeping you from being able to spend time gaming more? Are you doing other activities that are a time suck? There may be solutions to free up more of your time than you think you have. Someone who can be very helpful for this is a learning resource specialist that many schools may offer as a resource. These people aren't just for someone who has a disability. They can help you with things like time management so that you can get things done very efficiently and have more free time.


Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like.


Hmmm. Please take this as a serious attempt to help and not just bragging-- I have the personal experience of working 2 jobs while taking 30 hours of class a week at an Ivy-League school. I am not majoring in Comp Sci but as you can see I do have large constraints on my own time. I know however that it would be possible for me to commit at least 30 hours a week to sc2 if that was my goal. 30 hours a week is a good chunk of time to devote to getting better. Of course this implies eating meals in my room, and not going out with friends more than once a week for dinner, and not joining other activities. I am almost positive there are ways you could find to devote more time to sc2.

If your struggles with understanding some subjects and completing the homework are really sucking up all your time (and also it would seem discouraging you in your school work), you should really consider getting tutoring and extra help. Another idea to consider honestly is why you are studying an area you have so much difficulty with. You don't seem particularly passionate about it if you are willing to give it up easily for something else. Have you thought about switching majors to something you have an easier time with and enjoy more? That tends to help you have a lot more free time.


To be honest, there aren't any Majors that interest me, I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry, School and studying was NEVER my thing I am attending College so I wont end up working at Mcdonalds the rest of my life lol


Dont insult Mcdonalds yo. I've been trying to get a second job for like 2 months now and I've been rejected by like 5 Mcdonalds ROFL. I wish I could get a McD job but apparently they have standards and I dont meet them!
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 04:46:06
March 21 2012 04:45 GMT
#28
On March 21 2012 13:32 Sc2Corpse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 13:28 RedJustice wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:12 RedJustice wrote:
Pokebunny and cz have the best advice-- don't give up if you are passionate about it, but leaving school may not be the best solution.

It seems you are already working, which can take away your time. Do you mind explaining what about school (whether it be the school you attend is so very difficult, your particular major, etc) that is keeping you from being able to spend time gaming more? Are you doing other activities that are a time suck? There may be solutions to free up more of your time than you think you have. Someone who can be very helpful for this is a learning resource specialist that many schools may offer as a resource. These people aren't just for someone who has a disability. They can help you with things like time management so that you can get things done very efficiently and have more free time.


Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like.


Hmmm. Please take this as a serious attempt to help and not just bragging-- I have the personal experience of working 2 jobs while taking 30 hours of class a week at an Ivy-League school. I am not majoring in Comp Sci but as you can see I do have large constraints on my own time. I know however that it would be possible for me to commit at least 30 hours a week to sc2 if that was my goal. 30 hours a week is a good chunk of time to devote to getting better. Of course this implies eating meals in my room, and not going out with friends more than once a week for dinner, and not joining other activities. I am almost positive there are ways you could find to devote more time to sc2.

If your struggles with understanding some subjects and completing the homework are really sucking up all your time (and also it would seem discouraging you in your school work), you should really consider getting tutoring and extra help. Another idea to consider honestly is why you are studying an area you have so much difficulty with. You don't seem particularly passionate about it if you are willing to give it up easily for something else. Have you thought about switching majors to something you have an easier time with and enjoy more? That tends to help you have a lot more free time.


To be honest, there aren't any Majors that interest me, I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry, School and studying was NEVER my thing I am attending College so I wont end up working at Mcdonalds the rest of my life lol


One thing to remember is that if you don't like the work component now, you probably won't like it in the future, no matter how interesting or awesome you think the subject is. I learned this when I first came to school-- I was going to study something I was really excited and passionate about, which was archaeology. I took a senior level class second semester of my freshman year. It was a very practically oriented class and we worked cataloging items for a museum. In talking to my professor who went on digs every summer, and also to the seniors in the class and what jobs they were getting, I discovered that even though I liked LEARNING about archaeology and ancient history, the actual field is a terrible fit for my personal and academic strengths!

No matter how much you like games, you might hate the job, if you discover that the work required is not suited to your strong points. Things to consider is that there is more than one kind of job in the video game industry. You could study finance, or business, or marketing and work in the game industry! I suggest looking into other options as well as finding out more about the real work someone with your degree would do in the industry. It is important to be honest with yourself about the best fit for you because if you aren't you will end up very miserable indeed, and finding out later rather than sooner causes a hell of a lot more problems.

If you do not go to school, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to work at McDonalds lol. But you do want to learn a trade. If academics in general are not your strong point, maybe you should consider a job such as a welder, or mechanic, or electrician or something. There are certain demands to these jobs that you won't find at a desk, but they can be satisfying and pay relatively well. This may be completely not you at all, or maybe you like working with your hands and setting your own hours, idk.

In the end though-- don't spend the next four years studying something that's not for you! It's a waste of time and money. Even if you take some time off for sc2 and somehow 'make it', ultimately you need to figure out a direction for your life because you will have to retire pretttttty quickly in esports.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
March 21 2012 04:52 GMT
#29
On March 21 2012 13:44 dazed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 13:32 Sc2Corpse wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:28 RedJustice wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:12 RedJustice wrote:
Pokebunny and cz have the best advice-- don't give up if you are passionate about it, but leaving school may not be the best solution.

It seems you are already working, which can take away your time. Do you mind explaining what about school (whether it be the school you attend is so very difficult, your particular major, etc) that is keeping you from being able to spend time gaming more? Are you doing other activities that are a time suck? There may be solutions to free up more of your time than you think you have. Someone who can be very helpful for this is a learning resource specialist that many schools may offer as a resource. These people aren't just for someone who has a disability. They can help you with things like time management so that you can get things done very efficiently and have more free time.


Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like.


Hmmm. Please take this as a serious attempt to help and not just bragging-- I have the personal experience of working 2 jobs while taking 30 hours of class a week at an Ivy-League school. I am not majoring in Comp Sci but as you can see I do have large constraints on my own time. I know however that it would be possible for me to commit at least 30 hours a week to sc2 if that was my goal. 30 hours a week is a good chunk of time to devote to getting better. Of course this implies eating meals in my room, and not going out with friends more than once a week for dinner, and not joining other activities. I am almost positive there are ways you could find to devote more time to sc2.

If your struggles with understanding some subjects and completing the homework are really sucking up all your time (and also it would seem discouraging you in your school work), you should really consider getting tutoring and extra help. Another idea to consider honestly is why you are studying an area you have so much difficulty with. You don't seem particularly passionate about it if you are willing to give it up easily for something else. Have you thought about switching majors to something you have an easier time with and enjoy more? That tends to help you have a lot more free time.


To be honest, there aren't any Majors that interest me, I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry, School and studying was NEVER my thing I am attending College so I wont end up working at Mcdonalds the rest of my life lol


Dont insult Mcdonalds yo. I've been trying to get a second job for like 2 months now and I've been rejected by like 5 Mcdonalds ROFL. I wish I could get a McD job but apparently they have standards and I dont meet them!

Think they need you to be a student or something..... Cause a lot of people apply for Mcdonald so they can only fill you in a small amount of time per week instead of 5 days a week, so a bunch of students with different free time would be ideal most of the time.
I hate all this singing
lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
March 21 2012 04:55 GMT
#30
At the moment i'll tell you what you should do. During my 8th grade year of high school summer (so going into Freshman year of high school) I was a semi-professional Halo 3 player. Now, when I say this I mean I played all the time everyday and I won lots of money and was able to compete at high levels on a team etc. It was one of the greatest times of my life by far. However, when I started to get into the school year I wanted to maintain atleast a decent GPA so I wasn't able to keep playing like I had been and compete at the level I was competing at.

I actually contemplated not caring about school and just going into Halo 3 professionally. What I realized is that it actually wasn't worth it. As great as it would be to be a professionall player like so many dream to be, I just couldn't do it :/ I wanted to get through high school and college and go off to work as a software developer like I plan to be (i'm currently a Senior in high school).

I would've been one of the youngest professional gamers of the time and I was even being scouted by Final Boss :/ I won many tournaments and played at MLG one year to be beat out by the famous team Str8 Rippin (How great that was to lose to them...)

However, here's the morale of the story that I want you to take into MASSIVE consideration. The only reason I was debating actually dropping out of school to become a professional Halo 3 player was that I was already at such a highly competetive ability to play. If i hadn't been at that point then there's no way I would've ever considered dropping out of school because I know the dedication and ability needed to be put into the game to play.

Saying this, i'm going to recommend you something. Since the summer is almost here and you will be done with school, during the summer play as if you had taken the next 1-2 semesters off of school. Play as hard as you can and put as much dedication into the game as you can. Try your hardest to improve and get better throughout the whole summer. By the time summer is ending, if you're not at high masters level of play, do NOT drop out of school. I can tell you right now that if you can get to high masters and actually compete at some lower level tournmanets then you should think about dropping just the FIRST semester of school and keep going for your goal.

These are the terms you should look for and I seriously advise you to do it coming from a guy who has attained where you want to be at some point. If you want to talk anymore about this then PM me but seriously bro, it's usually not worth it.
SlayerS_BoxeR <3
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
March 21 2012 04:55 GMT
#31
2.5 months is nothing, consider sc2 a girl and your madly in love with her, should you drop out of college to spend more time with her?

No... Control your impulsive passions, at least to the extent where you can make rational and smart decisions.

I went from bronze to masters in 6 months during uni (my marks are horrible in general, p's get degrees) - p for pass, but I sto could have done my work ( I just don't like university, it's boring)

Sc2 just ain't worth it, at the end of the day it's just a video game
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 04:58:54
March 21 2012 04:57 GMT
#32
Considering you're only in gold currently you will gain very little from taking time off school and playing SC2 12 hrs/day. Its much more reasonable to stay in school while continuing to practice in your free time. Get to masters, play in some online tournaments, go to an MLG if you can and see where that takes you. Dropping out of school as a gold player (or even as a typical masters player) to pursue progaming borders on absurd. It would be sort of like a middle school football player dropping out of school to pursue a future in the NFL; its neither necessary nor prudent.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 05:09:33
March 21 2012 05:08 GMT
#33
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
I am majoring in Computer Programming

lol
F3arless
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada45 Posts
March 21 2012 05:10 GMT
#34
lots of things can hapen if you "take a break" even after the summer

your parents wont fund your education
you will lose interest in college ( this has been preached by adults for quite some time, once u "take a break" u dont want to go back)
you will not be able to continue for some reason
you will become addicted
you will have wasted time
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
March 21 2012 05:11 GMT
#35
More people need to do what Spanishiwa did, and stop playing starcraft so much in order to study more.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 21 2012 05:15 GMT
#36
I once thought I'd drop out of high school to play WoW every day all day. Boy did I dodge a bullet. You really need to be in masters and at the same time do well in school in order to have a probable chance to be a professional. I'd estimate it will take years to catch up if you're only at gold while still in school.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 21 2012 05:16 GMT
#37
On March 21 2012 14:08 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
I am majoring in Computer Programming

lol

what's so funny about majoring in comp prog?
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
March 21 2012 05:16 GMT
#38
This thread seems like one giant rabbit hole ending in OP being left in utter confusion of who he is, what he believes, and why he's living the way it is.

With that said, if you can't do school and manage to play starcraft 20+ hours a week (with or without a job), then you probably don't have what it takes to be a progamer in the first place. Good luck with your decision though.
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
March 21 2012 05:28 GMT
#39
On March 21 2012 13:41 Inori wrote:
This was probably mentioned, but this:
Show nested quote +
I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background, playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes!

actually places you in the mediocre and below category, which means that investing even more time into sc2 is a terrible idea.

Also this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=290350

This sounds right to me. With no RTS experience and only playing about 45min-1hr a day, I was placed in gold to begin with and quickly got promoted to diamond. My skill is not impressive by any stretch of the imagination. It's really clear to me how much better the average high masters player is than I am, to say nothing of GMs and pros. The gap is basically insurmountable. It's worth noting that the gap between the average gold player (you) and the average diamond player (me) is also very large. I'm not trying to bring you down, but it sounds like you need some perspective. Pokebunny, who was nice enough to comment earlier in this thread, would beat me 10 games out of 10, every time. Most diamond players would likely do the same to you.

If you ask me, everyone is capable of playing at a diamond level with a little well-focused practice, decent mechanics, and the proper mindset (read thought process while playing, not determination). If you aren't capable of playing at a high masters/GM level while practicing a couple hours a day, there's no reason to even think about making serious, life-altering decisions to persue a gaming "career" (and probably not even then).

Also, unless you go to a really demanding school, working enough to support yourself will take up more of your time in an average week (excluding midterms/finals and any major deadlines) than education.

I'd also like to dispel the notion that you can just "take a couple semesters off." When you try to go back, they're going to want to know why you left in the first place. Most school are concerned about their graduation rates and the resources they have to dedicate to each student. Don't assume they'll let you come back just because you got accepted the first time.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 21 2012 05:32 GMT
#40
Don't do it. So many similar blogs have come up in the past, and the consensus is basically:

If you can't make decent achievements doing part time, you won't be able to achieve anything amazing even if you do it full time.

On March 21 2012 14:16 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 14:08 Kentor wrote:
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote:
I am majoring in Computer Programming

lol

what's so funny about majoring in comp prog?

Computer Programming isn't a (typical?) major, based on my knowledge at least.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
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