EPTI may take time off College for my dream. - Page 6
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Bill Gates didn't struggle through a "Hello World" assignment in College and be like "dam yo this programming thing is my dream cya Harvard." | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
On March 22 2012 05:25 LuckyFool wrote: You drop out when you know you can make it happen. And if it's what you KNOW you really want. Bill Gates didn't struggle through a "Hello World" assignment in College and be like "dam yo this programming thing is my dream cya Harvard." I agree with LF. The best thing to do is leave college or your 'day job' when you KNOW you can make it. That way it isn't such a gamble. For example Sheth dropped out of college and so did TLO, but they did so after they were already winning tournies and making a name for themselve. For them it really wasn't such a big risk because they had already shown that they have the potential. The fact that you made it to Gold league after only 2-3 months is impressive; however, there is a HUGE skill gap between Gold league and GM. Some people could never reach GM regardless of amount of time played. You owe it to yourself to reach high masters as a minimum before you take such a drastic action as leaving college. | ||
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Vlare
748 Posts
If at some point you see yourself getting towards the top, and you think you have a shot, I would say that is when to make this sort of consideration. Without being completely BM, you're not at the top right now, you're actually quite the opposite, so there is no real reason to delay your life for something that "could be fun". Just keep playing, and do school. It's possible to do both, I do it, and have been doing it all my life. I am a high masters player, so it's possible. Hope whatever you do works out for you, gl! | ||
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opsayo
591 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background, playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes! maybe this is the reality check you need i played bw a lot and took like a 4 year break i bought sc2 for the first time two months ago and read three build orders (pvp, pvt, pvz) and played my placement matches i got placed into platinum without ever playing a game of sc2 in my life and i know for a fact i don't have what it takes to go anywhere in sc2 and rts gaming in general and i didn't even play for more than a few weeks the fact is if you aren't already very very close to the professional level when you play casually then you won't get there success requires more than just hard work, it requires talent and a little luck | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry Exactly where is your passion though? Is it playing video games or is it working with computers? Video Game Design on the programming design is actually extremely intensive with lots of tedious coding and algorithms and game engines and etc. Reading through this blog with some of your responses, you do not really seem like the type to sit down and crank out work even at a computer which development often is. I'm a senior student ready to graduate at the end of this semester in Computer Science and I can give you a quick rundown in three categories (1) Lower Division (2) Upper Division and (3) Your Minor. College life is not something to take lightly as by the time you enter into your Upper Division levels, you will be expected to actively seek out internships and other experience to further your career goal. Some colleges require you to have a certain amount of hours in internships. (1) Lower Division [Freshmen and Sophomore] These classes will generally be easy given that you can understand the theory and concepts of how to do basic things like loops and classes and programming in a structured way to solve a simple problem. You might also be exposed to some Object Oriented Programming which is essential to breaking down a large development project or complex problem into something that can be coded. Overall you will know which functions to program right off the bat since you're being told to do that as part of learning what they do. These classes will be fairly easy if you can intuitively grasp the ideas really fast. (2) Upper Division [Junior and Senior level courses] You will tackle a lot of theory courses as well as advanced programming techniques related to security, networking, operating systems architecture, and many other fun stuff. In terms of programming, shit will hit the fan when you enter Algorithms (most consider this to be the hardest course in Computer Science and it is for good reason). This class in particular will also probably be the last course you will take with an instructor holding your hand in terms of what to use. Almost every single theory class I've taken has required me to do a programming project where I get freedom to design it and code it whatever I like (I choose the language, design, algorithm, everything). I've seen many students immediately change their major once they've done this simply because they have no idea where to start in terms of designing their program let alone figuring out what algorithms to use. Internships are a huge thing here. They will be your immediate access to a plethora of knowledge on what platforms there are as well as what businesses tend to use. Many of the things you learn in an internship you will never learn in any college. They also play the vital role in getting your first experience in the workplace which is a necessity to almost every single computer related job. You need to be actively seeking out these internships and taking them when possible. Like it or not, your personal time will more than likely be going down the drain to finish your last years in college. I've never been good at StarCraft 2 (highest I gotten was platinum league and I don't play all serious) and I found that I've dropped steadily down to gold and right now silver. (3) Your Minor Your minor can potentially play an integral role in sharpening specific skills when it comes to Computer Science. My minor right now is Mathematics which helps me to understand algorithms much better. I know many people choose digital art style classes in hopes of working towards the interface and design areas. Many others take lots of web development from BCIS to further increase their programming knowledge of web development. I've seen others take psychology as a minor to help develop better interactive software. Your minor will also be quite intensive in that you will see Lower Division and Upper Division like above (although not as intense as your major). Even then you do not have to take one that compliments CS. I know many that picked a different subject because they have a passion for that subject as well. So overall I think you need to reassess your goals and probably need to give yourself way more evaluation time and practice time before declaring SC2 as your main thing and dropping from everything else. I have a friend who hit #1 Masters and he has to work like 7 days a week and he plays other stuff like DotA a lot as well. If you're only Gold league now, I highly recommend that you continue with your education instead until you are at the very least a high ranking Masters player since getting that with SC2 not being full time is reasonably achievable. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
Also it's not as easy to hop back into college after taking a year off as you seem to put it. I know way too many people who "took time off" and ended up never going back. I still believe it's entirely possible for you to improve even with limited time on your hands if you really want to. Although I advise not thinking of dropping out unless you are really high-ranked. | ||
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
On March 22 2012 05:25 LuckyFool wrote: You drop out when you know you can make it happen. And if it's what you KNOW you really want. Bill Gates didn't struggle through a "Hello World" assignment in College and be like "dam yo this programming thing is my dream cya Harvard." printf("Hello World"); Oh the joys of programming in C -_- | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On March 22 2012 12:05 MaRiNe23 wrote: printf("Hello World"); Oh the joys of programming in C -_- wish my assignment would be this easy, ahem, the one i'm doing now,... fml | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: So here is my story, I know a lot of you TL members are going to say "No don't do that, you will never make it, it is impossible." but I think I am going to take some time off of college to be more focused and dedicated into Starcraft, it is my DREAM to be a professional RTS/Sc2 player and make a living from something I love doing playing video games, and I am a firm believer that if you dedicate yourself to it you can reach your dreams no matter what, and here recently I just cant focus my attention to Sc2 and follow my dream like I want too because College swamps me with Homework day after day, so during the week days I hardly get to play any and It keeps me stressed out, I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background, playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes! That was one sentence. On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: I was never really good at school anyway, Games have always been there for me and I know that's what I want my future to be in, the gaming industry, so I think after this semester ends, one more month, I will take 1 or 2 semesters off too just play Starcraft 10+ hours a day just to see how far I get, if all else fails and I don't get even close to my dream I can just start going back to College, I just wanted to get everyones input on this idea, and please don't say "You will never make it." because I have learned not to listen to stuff like that, anyone can make a dream come true.... That was the second sentence. ______________________________ Doesn't matter, anyway. Good luck with Masters league. + Show Spoiler + I have a good guess as to why school wasn't working out for you. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Basically you can't just decide to go pro. Anyway, as long as its possible for you to go back to college, then I suppose it will be a learning experience. | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
I just realized something, the OP kid is not wasting his time thinking about taking time off college for his dream, I'm the one actually wasting my time still explaining this same shit. Doesn't matter what you tell some of these kids, they need to experience it themselves. So whatever, I'm done LuckyFool lol. | ||
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Wortie
Netherlands212 Posts
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with taking a break from college. But first, you absolutely need to secure a dependable, livable job (>$25k/yr in US) completely outside of gaming *BEFORE* you drop out. If you can't do that, then I'm sorry, you can't afford to pursue a dream in USA's current economy. Expect to work full time (>40 hours/week) and play full time (>40 hours/week). If you don't have enough talent or dedication to make at least NA GM after 3 months on that schedule, then I'm sorry, you don't have either the talent or dedication to make it pro. Also, if you have student loans, check to make sure that they won't screw you over by breaking from college. Most student loans out there do not charge interest while you are a full-time student. However if you stop taking classes before you graduate, then they smack you with very high interest rates. | ||
Chill
Calgary25989 Posts
Edit: Oh you have a job. Okay then no problem and I retract my sarcasm. It's not a bad idea  | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
The fact that you made it to Gold league after only 2-3 months is impressive There's a time to flatter and then there's a time to be realistic. Now is the time to be realistic. Gold in 2-3 months is not impressive, it is something everyone can easily do. And many people start already in gold or higher. False flattering only leads to rude awakening later. It's better to be rude now, less serious consequences if you see what I mean. That said, I totally don't mean to discourage you. Just weight your chances realistically and why not, if you still want it, go for it. While even dropping college may have some damn serious consequences it still not the end of the world. But honestly I would suggest you to stay in college and play SC2 at least till you get to masters. | ||
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Fallians
Canada242 Posts
On March 23 2012 05:42 Sejanus wrote: There's a time to flatter and then there's a time to be realistic. Now is the time to be realistic. Gold in 2-3 months is not impressive, it is something everyone can easily do. And many people start already in gold or higher. False flattering only leads to rude awakening later. It's better to be rude now, less serious consequences if you see what I mean. That said, I totally don't mean to discourage you. Just weight your chances realistically and why not, if you still want it, go for it. While even dropping college may have some damn serious consequences it still not the end of the world. But honestly I would suggest you to stay in college and play SC2 at least till you get to masters. I agree with this. 2-3 months for gold is pretty terrible imo, took me 3 weeks to go from bronze to gold and that was with a server reset T_T | ||
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Sega92
United States467 Posts
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
1 - Only plays against the computer or the campaign 2 - Bronze in team leagues 3 - Bronze in 1v1 4 - Masters in 1v1 5 - GSL Code S 6 - Bonjwa (no one is even close to this) Like the Richter scale for earthquakes, each skill level is exponentially harder to get to. You're at a 3.5. Most TL posters are around a 3.9. Being a progamer requires a skill level of at least 4.5, probably more like 4.7 to make good money. So even if you keep improving at the rate you have been, it will take 3 years for you to get to the level of the worst progamers. Can you sustain yourself for that long? | ||
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