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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
March 19 2012 09:29 GMT
#261
I have a hard time believing that the level of obsession over these things are as bad as the OP makes it out to be.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
March 19 2012 09:32 GMT
#262
On March 19 2012 18:21 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 17:42 Scarecrow wrote:
"The more I learn about other countries, the more I realize this [US] is one fucking great country." ...

I'd much rather a country where it's safe to walk around at night. Where I can leave my wallet on a bench and come back and find it untouched an hour later. Where I don't need a gun to protect my family and people actually prioritise health and education. No nation's perfect but I'd much rather live in most first world countries, particularly Korea, ahead of the US.


I hope your not serious. I mean, do you really believe in generalisations of a country?

If he's going to call Korea insane then I dont see any problem calling America an unsafe place to live with a government that doesn't prioritise health/education over military spending.
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HaiiTomm
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom12 Posts
March 19 2012 09:36 GMT
#263
From the sounds of it i'd love living in Korea! ^.^
Wouldn't have to hide (from most people) the fact that I put so much time & effort into my skin, hair and fashion. Plus I'm 6ft2 :3

I genuinely didn't have a clue Korea was like this. I thought it was all communist and old-fashioned! Thanks for opening my eyes. I'll probably start idolizing Korea more than I do Japan soon!

This article's cheered me up on a depressing Monday morning!
Thanks OP! ^^
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 09:41:42
March 19 2012 09:41 GMT
#264
Haha, nice OP.

I bought some Korean business pants the other day off yesstyle and I can't even fit my balls into that thing it was THAT skinny. Seriously wtf... the picture didn't look skinny at all or maybe I'm just fat now...

One time I was walking around the mini K town place and my blue collar white friend asked me why everyone got a faggy haircut, I had to LOL on that one even though I'm Asian as well.

Seriously though, I would hate to live in Korea, such ridiculous expectations and stress.
Rillanon.au
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 09:59:51
March 19 2012 09:53 GMT
#265
On March 19 2012 18:19 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:06 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On March 19 2012 18:03 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 19 2012 18:01 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On March 19 2012 17:57 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 19 2012 17:49 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On March 19 2012 17:42 Scarecrow wrote:
"The more I learn about other countries, the more I realize this [US] is one fucking great country." ...

I'd much rather a country where it's safe to walk around at night. Where I can leave my wallet on a bench and come back and find it untouched an hour later. Where I don't need a gun to protect my family and people actually prioritise health and education. No nation's perfect but I'd much rather live in most first world countries, particularly Korea, ahead of the US.

I walk around at night rather often, and it's quite safe. Okay, the second thing, let's not be stupid. You do that anywhere, and there's a good chance your wallet will get jacked. Not all the time, but it will happen often. I don't need a gun, and neither does anyone else I know. Health and education is pretty important it nearly everyone I know. Overall, your argument is invalid.

Nice try (not really), but take the anti-Americanism some place else.

And Korea ahead of the US? Considering the rest of your post, I'd have to say you're trolling. Because not being stressed to the point of near suicide, having a nice home rather than a tiny flat I can't even afford, living in a society that accepts and embraces other races and ethnicities rather than hates them, not fearing being devastating war constantly, a society less vain and impersonal, the country that has made the most scientific and technological advancements in the world (that wouldn't happen if we didn't value education), among a plethora of other things, is obviously so much worse than living in Korea, amirite?

I'm not trolling and you're deluded. Your arguments are just as valid as mine, Korea as a whole isn't stressed to near suicide. Tiny flats here aren't expensive at all if you have any sort of job. Impersonal? Koreans are the most friendly, communal people I know. Seriously you have nfi what you're talking about. Go take your blind patriotism elsewhere.

On March 19 2012 17:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
If you wish to live in Korea, then by all means, be my guest . I really value taking care of oneself, but in Korea, the whole "fitting into one specific mold" thing with make-up, surgery, fashion, accessories, etc. to the point of insanity is just astonishing, including for a guy like me who likes being an individual, and the great thing about the US (yes there is a lot of groupy-ism) is that people can be the way they like in terms of all facets of life, and that's perfectly acceptable. You aren't demonized to hell if you were studying all night and you had an early morning class and wore a hoodie. In fact, it's perfectly acceptable given the situation doesn't require being insane about fashion and looks.

I dress decently for my friends and family and whoever and dress appropriately for the occasion, but I'm not going to take it to the extreme of getting my hair permed/wax, wearing make-up/bbcream, and wearing clothing that looks a bit girly/metrosexual all day every day like is the style among Korean dudes :S. Oh god it would be silly for a guy like me to wear girly looking clothes :/. It just would not go with me at all XD, uh not to mention the make-up and hair treatments. I look manly, and I take pride in that. People will certainly think I fell off my rocker if I did that sort of thing haha.


There's NOTHING individual about wearing a hoodie, it's like the North Face jacket for students here. The western world just has different values and a ton of different subcultures that people adhere to whilst considering themselves individuals. Just cause you think men using makeup is gay doesn't mean there's anything wrong with korean culture. Ironically in that case they're a bit more free-thinking than most westerners. If women try to look good, why shouldn't men? Manliness is just an archaic excuse for being lazy and putting a minimal amount of effort into appearance and hygiene. Funny how in your last sentence you're actually conforming to what people expect from you ('manliness') and are unwilling to change. Just like how korean men refuse to change because they'll be made fun of. Try and get some cultural perspective and you'll see the Koreans are no more insane than you or I.

I was talking about flats in Korea, not Australia. Damn, you are really pissed. Chill out dude. You slander my country on things that are just unfounded except in very specific places (like UniversalSlip pointed out), and when I lay down the facts of the matter, you call it blind patriotism. Lol.

You slander Korea without even visiting. I'm living here atm, in a small flat. So I'm the slanderer and you're just laying down the facts...lol

Nowhere did I slander Korea, unless claiming that the US is a better place to live overall is slandering Korea HAHA.

Absurd beyond belief, insane, way messed up etc. Im pretty sure that counts as shitting on Korea and then you top it off by saying how fucking great your country is in comparison.

That degree of vanity and ridiculous bigtime stress-inducing social norms, a xenophobic society (even as a light-skinned dude that wouldn't come under as much hate as other people, I really, really don't like this), and a pop/youth culture where you better adhere to a certain style/mold or you're looked down upon to a strong degree, among many other things, is pretty crazy bro. That's not shitting on them by observing simple realities about their society lol. Sorry if you're butthurt. And yes, despite your anti-Americanism, the US is a great country. I know you don't like the US for whatever reason, but it's a damn great place, especially SoCal . And it's thanks to heavy and committed American economic relations, development, and investment in places like Aus and Korea that they are able to have the lifestyles they do today.
Glastnost
Profile Joined September 2011
16 Posts
March 19 2012 09:59 GMT
#266
I think that scarecrow is right, JudicatorHammurabi. He didn't really slander the U.S. other than implying that it's not the safest place on Earth, but neither is S.K. so that point is kind of moot. However you really did slander Korea but saying that its ideals are "insane"

Also for your points as to why the U.S. is awesome; Stress- Fair point S.K. has 3 times the suicide rate of the U.S., HomePrice- Hard to compare but we'll go with Seoul vs N.Y.C. and Rent in Seoul is 63% lower than New york.
Racism- America is still not quite over Racism and the views of a lot of people on Hispanics is borderline so this one is subjective.
War- We are constantly in war and the cost is pretty crippling so I would say the U.S. is actually worse off.
Societal Vanity- America is very vain. I see more news about Kim Kardashian or Peyton Manning than Mitt Romney. But S.K. is still worse.
Past Technological Achievements=Education? This is just not true. Just because we used to be the smart kids doesn't mean we still are. I can name 10 countries off the top of my head with far superior public education than the U.S. we honestly have a terrible system that needs to be reformed. This one goes by far to S.K.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 10:10:49
March 19 2012 10:06 GMT
#267
On March 19 2012 18:59 Glastnost wrote:
I think that scarecrow is right, JudicatorHammurabi. He didn't really slander the U.S. other than implying that it's not the safest place on Earth, but neither is S.K. so that point is kind of moot. However you really did slander Korea but saying that its ideals are "insane"

Also for your points as to why the U.S. is awesome; Stress- Fair point S.K. has 3 times the suicide rate of the U.S., HomePrice- Hard to compare but we'll go with Seoul vs N.Y.C. and Rent in Seoul is 63% lower than New york.
Racism- America is still not quite over Racism and the views of a lot of people on Hispanics is borderline so this one is subjective.
War- We are constantly in war and the cost is pretty crippling so I would say the U.S. is actually worse off.
Societal Vanity- America is very vain. I see more news about Kim Kardashian or Peyton Manning than Mitt Romney. But S.K. is still worse.
Past Technological Achievements=Education? This is just not true. Just because we used to be the smart kids doesn't mean we still are. I can name 10 countries off the top of my head with far superior public education than the U.S. we honestly have a terrible system that needs to be reformed. This one goes by far to S.K.

Celebrities of that nature are one thing. The hugely overwhelming majority of the young to possibly as old as early middle-aged of an entire society is another.

Ultra powerful imperialist nations will often be at war. It's a simple historical fact since the Akkadians.

Even to this day, the US is at the forefront of innovation and research. That's not the past. That's the present. And while our public elementary and high school education may not be the best, our university education is the best in the world, to a point that it just is not debatable.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
March 19 2012 10:08 GMT
#268
On March 19 2012 18:59 Glastnost wrote:
I think that scarecrow is right, JudicatorHammurabi. He didn't really slander the U.S. other than implying that it's not the safest place on Earth, but neither is S.K. so that point is kind of moot. However you really did slander Korea but saying that its ideals are "insane"

Also for your points as to why the U.S. is awesome; Stress- Fair point S.K. has 3 times the suicide rate of the U.S., HomePrice- Hard to compare but we'll go with Seoul vs N.Y.C. and Rent in Seoul is 63% lower than New york.
Racism- America is still not quite over Racism and the views of a lot of people on Hispanics is borderline so this one is subjective.
War- We are constantly in war and the cost is pretty crippling so I would say the U.S. is actually worse off.
Societal Vanity- America is very vain. I see more news about Kim Kardashian or Peyton Manning than Mitt Romney. But S.K. is still worse.
Past Technological Achievements=Education? This is just not true. Just because we used to be the smart kids doesn't mean we still are. I can name 10 countries off the top of my head with far superior public education than the U.S. we honestly have a terrible system that needs to be reformed. This one goes by far to S.K.


Are you kidding? America is super relaxed and no one gives a fuck about anything. There's no need to adhere to "social norms" by getting surgury or buying expensive shit to fit in. It's pretty safe and guns aren't necessary unless you live in Compton or the Texas border.
Glastnost
Profile Joined September 2011
16 Posts
March 19 2012 10:13 GMT
#269
Yeah those points were just observations and didn't really have much to do with scarecrow. As far as he's concerned though; I really don't think he's being anti-american. I think at most he's a little upset because you keep trivializing and degrading S.K. culture. It's probably unintentional but the way you're arguing your points is pretty insulting to someone who is South Korean. And I think he's responding more to that than voicing some anti-american belief.
iMYoonA
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 10:22:42
March 19 2012 10:19 GMT
#270
On March 19 2012 17:51 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 16:35 iMYoonA wrote:
On March 19 2012 15:56 duk3 wrote:
I wonder how iNcontrol would be received in Korea.

rotinegg, what are the ski/snowboard fashions like in Korea? Are baggy clothes worn then? In the US, most ski outfits are pretty loose besides ones for racing.

i'm not the op but i know anyway: its the same as everywhere, its quite loose, big, and waterproof.

"Everywhere"? Ski fashion has been modeled after pro outfits for years and is as tight and sexy as possible. The only people wearing loose gear are free style skiers and some leftover snow boarders. Even most snowboarders go for the pro look these days. Generally in Euro ski areas you can spot Americans from a mile away for their baggy ski outfits.

To stay on topic, I would be interested how this looks in Korea too, do you know OP?


mate it's still loose compared to the clothes you wear normally. How can you possibly ski if you're wearing clothes that don't have any loose cloth at the back, or pants that are fitted against your leg?

I didn't say it was super loose or anything but I assumed the question was in comparison with the street clothing, and yes, it has to be looser than normal clothes.

I'm sorry if thats not what you were after, perhaps i misunderstood, and u were talking about looseness compared to other ski gear, lol

Also for anyone interested, i found this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shills-shills-NIB-Firming-Facial-Cream-Slim-Face-50ml-/280662749397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4158cdb0d5#ht_1567wt_1396

meant to firm your face and help you get a v-line, lol
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 10:41:55
March 19 2012 10:41 GMT
#271
This was an amazing blog rotinegg. I'm not Korean and I couldn't care less about buying expensive clothes just to "fit in", but nonetheless there's a wealth of information in this blog that I gleaned.

People should be giving this more love. Since it's spotlighted, I hope said love will come.

Whoa holy just kidding I started typing this response when there were 2 pages, went to play DotA, came back, and now there's 14 pages.

I recant my previous statement.
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TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
March 19 2012 10:45 GMT
#272
Fascinating... 5*
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 10:56:28
March 19 2012 10:55 GMT
#273
B.B cream stands for blemish base cream

and yes i use it because i'm korean lol

ans from what i heard from my aunt, the North Face jackets costs up to USD600 lol
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opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
March 19 2012 11:01 GMT
#274
its too bad this post will get in a massive thread but i found this really really interesting and informative

thanks!
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2450 Posts
March 19 2012 11:12 GMT
#275
nice read! I learned a lot. I've been hearing this 등신 thing many times and now I finally understand fully. One thing not mentioned was how Koreans groom their eyebrows. In the states atleast I hardly see guys give a damn about their eyebrows.
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
March 19 2012 11:21 GMT
#276
TBH this blog makes Koreans seem pretty disgusting lol. But I think in China it's similar too.
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Renzin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia75 Posts
March 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#277
Thanks for the great post rotinegg! Very interesting read
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#278
crazy stuff, not going to go pro US or anything but reading this blog kinda makes me "ehh..." talking about fashion & culture is ok by itself, but there is something obsessive with the stuff i'm reading with ratios and surgeries...
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nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
March 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#279
Any comments on the treatment on hair other than on the top of one's head?
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Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
March 19 2012 11:41 GMT
#280
Great read, thank you for such a well thought-out and detailed post. All the people that obsess about Korean culture on this website should really read this.
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