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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 00:30:57
February 28 2012 23:12 GMT
#1
Hi!
I've been recently casting for playhem a lot, VODs can be found on http://twitch.tv/playhemtv ... anything with Pokebunny in the title is me. As a new caster, I of course get a fair amount of criticism, and I was hoping users on TL could provide some constructive criticism! I'll be doing more casting in the future, so please give me feedback!

VOD list:
http://www.twitch.tv/playhemtv/b/308705161
http://www.twitch.tv/playhemtv/b/309420586
http://www.twitch.tv/playhemtv/b/310068328 [2:26:00 through 5:11:00]
more soon

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Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 21:22:49
February 28 2012 23:21 GMT
#2
Youre awful
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 23:25:28
February 28 2012 23:22 GMT
#3
On February 29 2012 08:21 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
Youre awful

Please be a ban.. please be a ban...

You're casting is good poke, no obvious criticism from me.



On February 29 2012 08:21 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
Youre awful

User was temp banned for this post.



D'awww temp ban is fine.
TheEvo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States23 Posts
February 28 2012 23:23 GMT
#4
#1 Got to put up that hater barrier.

I already sent you a decent length message on twitch right after the finals were over. so I wont repost it here right now but maybe after another cast or checking out some of your vods ill have more.


Link us to these vods and if you have a youtube channel that as well so we can check out more of your work sir.
Evolution
Logan_ps
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
February 28 2012 23:24 GMT
#5
I'd say your doing a fine job. Experience will iron out any minor 'flaws' but frankly, the added high level insight and enthusiasm you show sets you up to keep on improving. Good work. Keep on keeping on.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
February 28 2012 23:25 GMT
#6
I honestly haven't listened to your casting online but your commentary during the NYC LAN games that I heard sounded pretty good, and I assume it's gotten better since then if you've been working on improving it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
SeLpHy
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany73 Posts
February 28 2012 23:27 GMT
#7
Hello Pokebunny,

i always regard you as a Professional-Starcraft 2 Player but your casting really surprised me! You're really good at
casting I say!
Try to present the game with more emotion. That's what I really love from the casters! And when there's a tense moment,
make it even more tense!

Great cast! :-)

SeLpHy
DarkSynthesis
Profile Joined November 2011
91 Posts
February 28 2012 23:27 GMT
#8
I really don't like you casting sorry but thats because I used to cast BW games myself
One big thing I can tell you is to talk more and be more drama-like
Thats one of the biggest things your lacking
whocareswho
Profile Joined December 2011
3 Posts
February 28 2012 23:28 GMT
#9
Hey Pokebunny,

I wanted to get this post in here quickly before the thread becomes a series of flames.

I enjoy nearly everything about your casting. You are knowledgeable and keep the games entertaining. However, I feel that sometimes you cast very arrogantly, and it gets slightly annoying. Your introductions of the players for the games are what irk me the most. While introducing the players you seem to say everything you know about the players, and it seems a little "showoffy". When other casters on Playhem introduce players, they say a few things about that player (ie. This is Fraer, he plays in our tourneys a lot, he is good and I'm excited to watch this game). You tend to drag that stuff out with useless information such as "This is a player, he is Korean, he now lives in Germany, his favorite play style is this, yada yada yada". Way too long of an introduction, keep it short.

I do not think you are ready to solo cast. You are best co-casting with more veteran casters and hopefully that will help you out in the long run!
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
February 28 2012 23:28 GMT
#10
For only hearing you cast once today (playhem finals, dragon vs snuffe), I have to say you added a good level of analysis to the game and made good calls about what was happening. I don't know who was in charge of the camera, but there were moments where it just stopped moving or wasn't covering action that was happening half a screen away, but that could use some improvement.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 28 2012 23:29 GMT
#11
On February 29 2012 08:28 Vod.kaholic wrote:
For only hearing you cast once today (playhem finals, dragon vs snuffe), I have to say you added a good level of analysis to the game and made good calls about what was happening. I don't know who was in charge of the camera, but there were moments where it just stopped moving or wasn't covering action that was happening half a screen away, but that could use some improvement.

Yeah, I wasn't the camera man.

I also don't really plan to solo cast, but I really enjoy casting alongside a more experienced caster.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
MacroZerg
Profile Joined July 2011
Greece40 Posts
February 28 2012 23:32 GMT
#12
Not bad... Keep it up
For Teh Swarm !
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 28 2012 23:33 GMT
#13
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 28 2012 23:36 GMT
#14
Your knowledge of the game is good, but your voice makes my ear drums shatter. Please, get a voice changer so i can listen to your insight.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
TheEvo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States23 Posts
February 28 2012 23:41 GMT
#15
Extending from my twitch message.

Being that support knowledge role;
Help the main caster with things other than the production tab. Help by throwing out worker counts, tech choices he might be missing while doing camera work, where chrono is going, where new expos are going (minimap watching), resource gathering rates, and the like.

Also maps are great talking point. Help in the early game when your partner has nothing to talk about, maps are easy to talk about. Explain 3rd/4th choices, key choke points, drop points, warp in abuse, overlord position ect. All these can be talked about during htat 6-15 food dead period before builds are recognized.

or maybe the build is out but they both went macro so it will be boring for another 4-5 min, take that time and throw out what you would have done had you seen this macro play. Would you cancel and got 1 base all in? Would you go even greedier with 3 base? Tech hard on 2?

---

Leave most of the action to the experienced caster. They are less likely to trip up on words, can string together talking easily, and know how to inject that enthusiasm without making is sound forced.

That's all I got for now. Let us know your casting schedule in addition to those youtube/vod links. I try to watch kibbelz and robin daily but if I see your name up there I may start tuning in to that as well.
Evolution
orangesunglasses
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States110 Posts
February 28 2012 23:45 GMT
#16
your asking for feedback ill say this and im allowed to feel this way

when doing commentating or casting or anything of the vocal vocation, you cant just have any voice. your voice is imo not conducive to casting. people need to enjoy hearing you speak and its kinda hard to do that with your voice.

you cant say um and uh, this is something most people have and break the habit when seeking jobs on TV or whatever else but if you think you can do this you cant say filler words like that.

all being said there are many casters atm, since this is such a grass roots movement imo and nothing is SUPER official, who might not be qualified for casting but do anyway and so i guess you can most likely be a caster but i really, and i say this in the most honest blunt/non intended offensive way possible, cannot see you being a serious contender for serious casting
How you win is the only thing that matters
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 23:47:34
February 28 2012 23:46 GMT
#17
On February 29 2012 08:45 orangesunglasses wrote:
your asking for feedback ill say this and im allowed to feel this way

when doing commentating or casting or anything of the vocal vocation, you cant just have any voice. your voice is imo not conducive to casting. people need to enjoy hearing you speak and its kinda hard to do that with your voice.

you cant say um and uh, this is something most people have and break the habit when seeking jobs on TV or whatever else but if you think you can do this you cant say filler words like that.

all being said there are many casters atm, since this is such a grass roots movement imo and nothing is SUPER official, who might not be qualified for casting but do anyway and so i guess you can most likely be a caster but i really, and i say this in the most honest blunt/non intended offensive way possible, cannot see you being a serious contender for serious casting

Perfectly valid, and I do think part of the "annoying" quality of it is partially due to low quality equipment, which I hopefully will be fixing. I don't claim to have a good casting voice though.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
-ReD-
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada167 Posts
February 29 2012 00:07 GMT
#18
good stuff. id watch you cast any day. (and to the guy who said you give too long intros, i think its awesome to get some context in before game... better than awkward silence early game)
ZiphV5.0
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands14 Posts
February 29 2012 00:14 GMT
#19
pokebunny! pokebunny! pokebunny! pokebunny! pokebunny! pokebunny! pokebunny! pokebunny! pokebunny!
What ever Liquid.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 29 2012 00:34 GMT
#20
Excellent. At times smallchat with you seems awkward, but that's not something one can consciously fix. Overall, excellent commentary.
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
February 29 2012 00:39 GMT
#21
You do very well however I feel like you take over the cast sometimes, you have to share the limelight when casting with a partner.
Why?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 29 2012 00:44 GMT
#22
Excellent!!! Don't know what to add really, your casting is better than a vast majority of professional casters =)
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 29 2012 00:46 GMT
#23
Thank you to everyone for both praise and constructive criticism, I really do appreciate it!
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 01:00:11
February 29 2012 00:59 GMT
#24
How are you doing that when you sound like a robot?
Edit: Oh wait nvm, it was a technical issue. That's hilarious.

Also it says "this content might be inappropriate" and you're under 18! Isn't that broken?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Corsair212
Profile Joined September 2011
22 Posts
February 29 2012 01:25 GMT
#25
Hey, I'd like to say that you are a good caster. And that you seem to be excitable, which is good, very good, games are much more fun to watch when there's someone giving an intense play by play, (a la, football running back taking it to the house style) commentary. You could also use a better mic I think, get a better mic and just analyze the game. Make some predictions mid game, and then make light of them later and give us some pro insight. I really like watching your cast and hope to hear you more often! Keep up the good work!
OSM.OneManArmy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States509 Posts
February 29 2012 01:33 GMT
#26
go cast HSL games poke
Admin of High School Starleague // hsstarleague.com // https://www.facebook.com/HSStarleague // UCI Dota2 President https://www.facebook.com/groups/ucidota/
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
February 29 2012 03:07 GMT
#27
The only thing I'm qualified to comment on is your voice. It sounds, well how can I say it, young and nerdy. It's not a very attractive voice. I have no idea how to fix the sound of your voice, honestly I think my own voice sounds horrible as well.

The only thing I can recommend is to record yourself saying a phrase over and over several times in a different "voice," kind of like an accent. Then listen to them and find the one that is audially most attractive. Then try to replicate that consistently and speak like that all the time. It's not easy.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 29 2012 03:44 GMT
#28
On February 29 2012 12:07 jrkirby wrote:
The only thing I'm qualified to comment on is your voice. It sounds, well how can I say it, young and nerdy. It's not a very attractive voice. I have no idea how to fix the sound of your voice, honestly I think my own voice sounds horrible as well.

The only thing I can recommend is to record yourself saying a phrase over and over several times in a different "voice," kind of like an accent. Then listen to them and find the one that is audially most attractive. Then try to replicate that consistently and speak like that all the time. It's not easy.

I'm quite aware, and I also am trying to figure out the best way to remedy this
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
BadgKat
Profile Joined June 2011
United States156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 08:06:12
February 29 2012 07:04 GMT
#29
Your insights into the game are great. I think it is very important that you are paired with a good personality type caster, though. I personally could listen to just you talk about Starcraft 2 all day, but i think others might find it a bit too draining (like going to sc2 school). Your analysis is so good though, I think with the right partner you'd be amazing.

As far as your voice goes... well you're 16. I wouldn't worry too much about sounding like you're 16. Getting older will remedy a lot of that, and that happens quicker than you'd think.

Then again part of me wants to tell you you're awful so that you'll focus on playing, that way I can watch you win some major tournaments and I can say I was a big fan before all the bandwagoners.
TheCrazySwede
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden3 Posts
February 29 2012 08:30 GMT
#30
I watched your co-casting with Kibbelz on the EU daily yesterday and I think you did quite a good job.
The only (minor) issue was that your microphone volume wasn't matched up against Kibbelz' so I either had to change the stream volume to have you at a normal level and Kibbelz really loud, or Kibbelz at a normal level and you really quiet.
And at a few times it almost looked like the chat trolls got to you for a moment. Just ignore them. You can never please everyone, and especially not those who are complaining just for the sake of complaining.
But other than that, excellent work and I look forward to seeing you casting again.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#31
Isn't feedback a protoss spell? *ziiing*
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
March 07 2012 17:48 GMT
#32
On February 29 2012 12:44 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 12:07 jrkirby wrote:
The only thing I'm qualified to comment on is your voice. It sounds, well how can I say it, young and nerdy. It's not a very attractive voice. I have no idea how to fix the sound of your voice, honestly I think my own voice sounds horrible as well.

The only thing I can recommend is to record yourself saying a phrase over and over several times in a different "voice," kind of like an accent. Then listen to them and find the one that is audially most attractive. Then try to replicate that consistently and speak like that all the time. It's not easy.

I'm quite aware, and I also am trying to figure out the best way to remedy this

Start smoking a pack a day...

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Why?
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
March 07 2012 18:29 GMT
#33
On February 29 2012 12:44 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 12:07 jrkirby wrote:
The only thing I'm qualified to comment on is your voice. It sounds, well how can I say it, young and nerdy. It's not a very attractive voice. I have no idea how to fix the sound of your voice, honestly I think my own voice sounds horrible as well.

The only thing I can recommend is to record yourself saying a phrase over and over several times in a different "voice," kind of like an accent. Then listen to them and find the one that is audially most attractive. Then try to replicate that consistently and speak like that all the time. It's not easy.

I'm quite aware, and I also am trying to figure out the best way to remedy this


There's nothing wrong with your voice, it's just your enunciation and projection.

You should join a toastmasters group, I think that would help you out immensely.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 07 2012 20:07 GMT
#34
On February 29 2012 08:46 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 08:45 orangesunglasses wrote:
your asking for feedback ill say this and im allowed to feel this way

when doing commentating or casting or anything of the vocal vocation, you cant just have any voice. your voice is imo not conducive to casting. people need to enjoy hearing you speak and its kinda hard to do that with your voice.

you cant say um and uh, this is something most people have and break the habit when seeking jobs on TV or whatever else but if you think you can do this you cant say filler words like that.

all being said there are many casters atm, since this is such a grass roots movement imo and nothing is SUPER official, who might not be qualified for casting but do anyway and so i guess you can most likely be a caster but i really, and i say this in the most honest blunt/non intended offensive way possible, cannot see you being a serious contender for serious casting

Perfectly valid, and I do think part of the "annoying" quality of it is partially due to low quality equipment, which I hopefully will be fixing. I don't claim to have a good casting voice though.

I must say, you would be so much better if your casting voice were better. Sucks, wish mine were better too tt
DONTPANIC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States340 Posts
March 07 2012 21:11 GMT
#35
I think it was great. I watched a lot and found you pretty easy to listen to.
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 07 2012 21:18 GMT
#36
I don't like your voice/casting that much but at least you are knowledgeable to a degree and probably more so than most of the casters right now since you're at a high playing level.
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Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
March 07 2012 22:55 GMT
#37
On February 29 2012 09:39 VTArlock wrote:
You do very well however I feel like you take over the cast sometimes, you have to share the limelight when casting with a partner.

^ this.
I also think your casts are pretty enjoyable. Something minor I found is I find your microphone came off on a slight echoish tone at points... If there's a way to fix/improve this that'd be awesome!
If you could interact with your casting partner, I feel like that'd be another way to improve your casts (as said above). You seem like a pretty nice guy from the times ive interacted/w u on ladder, if you can interact/w partner and express your personality more, I feel like your casting quality will improve a ton ^^. glgl~
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Joakiiim
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway35 Posts
March 31 2012 01:11 GMT
#38
Really good streaming during todays ONOG!
To bad about the overlay in the first Snute match, but we missed nothing big so I guess it's OK!
Also known as everlong
RuMCaKe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States559 Posts
March 31 2012 02:56 GMT
#39
You've got that 14 year old swag. Keep up the good work buddy!
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NickOgden
Profile Joined July 2011
13 Posts
May 06 2012 21:00 GMT
#40
Dude I'm watching you cast Playhem and Sheth is on, you are being really harsh and critical when the players make mistakes, phrases like "Why didn't he do x" or "I don't get it" or "he could/should do this". Yeah they are making errors, but be a bit more productive as you just come off across as an asshole.

You're just casting, he is controlling an army and an economy, imagine if you were playing, where is your attention and why is he not doing what you think he should be doing right now.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
May 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#41
Crying about protoss while you cast, saying the players are stupid, the race is stupid etc.

Things you should avoid. Honestly you just sounded super upset with the protoss player. When you weren't crying, the casting was good though.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
NickOgden
Profile Joined July 2011
13 Posts
May 29 2012 15:10 GMT
#42
Hey, I made some critisisms of your casting of a Playhem about a month back, I've recently been watching your pro league re-streams and I really like what you're doing. Certainly the issues I had are not present. Nice One
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