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chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 22:13:00
February 26 2012 22:09 GMT
#1
So i was on a SC2 pro scene hibernation the last few months and did not follow the happenings at all.

Now i watch MLG Winter Arena and i got 2 questions:

1) Why did they switch to this kind of studio format? With no big audience etc. This seems like a horrible decision. The whole atmosphere with fans made MLG so awesome last year. Just WTF?

2) I see threads that MLG is PPV now. Why can i watch everything in 1080p then? Is there hidden content somewhere? Im totally satisfied with this already. Why would i pay money for it?

All in all this seems like a few steps backwards from what MLG delivered last year. I really hope im missing something here...


Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 26 2012 22:11 GMT
#2
the first our of streeming is free as far as i know
never tried it , though.
This is our town, scrub
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
February 26 2012 22:23 GMT
#3
There seem to be an error with twitch's detection of the paywall... On IE i get it when i turn on the stream, in chrome i get it, at some time... So twitch didn't do their job good enough..

And the Arena studios is an addition to the big lan events. Maybe you should look up the announcement threads. Not gonna explain everything...
Yeah
Khazroul
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
February 26 2012 22:24 GMT
#4
Also this is seperate to the usual MLG tournament, which will ofc also be happening with the big venues/crowds. This is an on-the-side tournament which is PPV for this weekend.
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
February 26 2012 22:28 GMT
#5
On February 27 2012 07:09 chroniX wrote:
So i was on a SC2 pro scene hibernation the last few months and did not follow the happenings at all.

Now i watch MLG Winter Arena and i got 2 questions:

1) Why did they switch to this kind of studio format? With no big audience etc. This seems like a horrible decision. The whole atmosphere with fans made MLG so awesome last year. Just WTF?

2) I see threads that MLG is PPV now. Why can i watch everything in 1080p then? Is there hidden content somewhere? Im totally satisfied with this already. Why would i pay money for it?

All in all this seems like a few steps backwards from what MLG delivered last year. I really hope im missing something here...

1) This is only the current setup for the Arena events which are separate from the normal MLG Pro Circuit events. The Pro Circuit events will be just like they were last year.

2) Only the Winter Arena is PPV, or at least should be PPV. If you can watch it without paying for it, something is wrong, probably on TwitchTV's end.

More information here.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
February 26 2012 22:30 GMT
#6
Okay thanks guys. That sounds reasonable then.
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
February 26 2012 23:15 GMT
#7
This isn't a pro circuit even (those are free) , this is a PPV winter arena in NY.

You have like 15 minutes of free stream or something among those lines.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 23:26:28
February 26 2012 23:25 GMT
#8
Well , im watching for atleast 2 hours now and im reading the same from alot of other TL-users. TwitchTV must have fucked up royally there.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
February 26 2012 23:29 GMT
#9
On February 27 2012 07:09 chroniX wrote:
So i was on a SC2 pro scene hibernation the last few months and did not follow the happenings at all.

Now i watch MLG Winter Arena and i got 2 questions:

1) Why did they switch to this kind of studio format? With no big audience etc. This seems like a horrible decision. The whole atmosphere with fans made MLG so awesome last year. Just WTF?

2) I see threads that MLG is PPV now. Why can i watch everything in 1080p then? Is there hidden content somewhere? Im totally satisfied with this already. Why would i pay money for it?

All in all this seems like a few steps backwards from what MLG delivered last year. I really hope im missing something here...


1) I believe the original plan was to have it in their new studio in Columbus, which could take spectators, sadly it was not finished in time for this event.

2) Justin/Twitch subscription back-end is somewhat of a joke. If people are able to watch by simply having cookies turned off well, you have a problem. I hope MLG really pulls Twitch up on this issue.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
February 26 2012 23:32 GMT
#10
On February 27 2012 08:25 chroniX wrote:
Well , im watching for atleast 2 hours now and im reading the same from alot of other TL-users. TwitchTV must have fucked up royally there.


Yep, me and some friends have all been able to watch for longer than an hour unhindered.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
February 26 2012 23:40 GMT
#11
Watching the entire day without having paid a single cent. That's good for me. But if I was a customer that actually paid 20$ I would be raging hard right now. Would I have the right to get my money back? Since I would have paid for something that was free for everyone in the end.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
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