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updateAlso, I am going to get a haircut at some local place. Argued with mom, until she was like "LOL, spend $100 on haircut, I don't care. you're wasting anything past 10 bucks" Yay.
OK, so yeah. I was on IRC. People said it would be funny if I did a full out girl blog. So yeah, I'm going to attempt to meet this demand, with a 100% girl blog.
Couple notes on my experiences in the past
8th grade: talk to girl, she's nice and all. Girl tells my mom that "I"m taking it too fast" and then moves. Without saying anything to me. Even though its intirely irrelevant, I sorta got traumatized lol.
10th grade: Friend sort of tries to set me up with girl, I ask her to dance, she says "lol, I'm going with friends" So yeah. Sorta sucked. Now we're good friends, but it sort of sucked as well...
11th grade: nothing happened, because i didn't want to was a wimp.
This year I plan on going to senior ball. Depressing thing is a lot of my academically focused friends aren't, but whatever, I'll fit in for once. I just need to find somebody to ask to not be awkward, and to have a good time, whatnot. I've been thinking about it a bit, and it's sorta awkward. I really only know people in AP classes, as do all the people I know, who are in AP classes. Which significantly narrows my options. Of that maybe half are in a relationship, an eighth are really good friends with me. So that narrows options.
So yeah, I've been thinking about it. A couple months ago was takling about how I should ask this girl out. She is the subject lol.
Anyways, she is pretty nice, smart, whatnot. On the other hand, she is very attractive, and actually sorta flirty. But funny thing is she hasn't really been in a relationship, and keeps on talking about how there is no ideal man blahblahblah, I don't want to get married. Furthermore, she's talked to me a lot about personal stuff, which would lead me to think that we're more friends than anything else?
This weekend I went to a model UN conference with her. We talked a lot, got to know each other mroe. But the really funny thing about it is I feel like she just wants to be friends. But I'm not sure if that's accurate. In one sense, she's trusting me with a lot of information. In another, I may be reading too much into it.
Maybe I should just ask her and not worry ;;
 
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Man up.
If that shit don't work out, plenty of girls in college. Don't fret it son.
Oh yeah, just because you ask someone out to a ball doesn't mean you have to commit to a real relationship.
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Yep, if she's talking to you about personal stuff that means that you're just friends to her. However, if she's not going to with anyone, doesn't hurt to ask. If she's attractive, other girls are going to notice and that will enhance your chances with them.
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Go for it, yo.
"Man up"
Fo' reals. What's the worst that can happen?
Edit: lol, just made me think of my senior ball.... night was crazy.
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Don't put her on a pedestal.
Just ask her. The worst case that happens is that she says no. Then what? Cool, now you know. You don't have to worry about it any more and continue with your time as normal. Nothing changes.
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On February 06 2012 16:47 Roffles wrote:
Man up.
If that shit don't work out, plenty of girls in college. Don't fret it son.
Oh yeah, just because you ask someone out to a ball doesn't mean you have to commit to a real relationship.
^that.
Just ask her out and be straightforward. Don't be afraid of rejection because it's refraining you from moving forward.
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You're already doomed to fail. If you think she wants to be friends, that's 100% true. Gut intuition is usually the most accurate when it comes to failure.
Seeing as how you have no chance, you might as well improve your chance with future girls by experiencing rejection now.
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On February 06 2012 16:53 husniack wrote:
You're already doomed to fail. If you think she wants to be friends, that's 100% true. Gut intuition is usually the most accurate when it comes to failure.
Seeing as how you have no chance, you might as well improve your chance with future girls by experiencing rejection now.
What an odd and seemingly off advice.
It just might work.
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It's not uncommon to just go as friends to a ball as well :/ and even if you get rejected so what? It's senior ball so anyone that would make fun of you isn't going to have much time to do it anyways. But honestly, the most important thing is always confidence, girls usually want the guy that can take charge and so they like that guy who has the balls to do something.
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Just ask to the dance, as said above that doesn't mean your like dating or anything.
But yea the sharing of personal stuff/confiding in is generally the point where its become a friendship but its not the "friend zone hell" that a lot of people say it is, Friends can develop deeper affections for each other but its always the "well if I make a move that it will ruin the friendship!" so no one does anything but pussyfoot around.
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
Meh, it's just highschool. Once you get out into the real world you'll realize that 99.9% of HS doesn't mean shit for shit. 
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man up , chances are you already have been friendzoned but just go and ask her anyway. If she goes by the "friend" excuse you can always pretend that you asked her as a friend ( asuming u want to be friends with her ). =/
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From the tone of this blog, it seems to me that you're not seeking a committed relationship. If that's the case, why fret? For my senior ball, I asked a girl that I was merely friends with, and we mutually agreed that it would be a between friends sort of thing. After that, that was that, lol. We had a great time and we're still just friends and we don't think anything of it.
From your description of this girl, the last thing she seems to want is a relationship, so just tell her that you want to take her to the senior ball as friends, and that she seemed the only girl cool enough to you that you wanted to ask her to chill for the night, maybe go to a party afterwards. Basically you're creating a no pressure situation for yourself. Easy, enjoy your senior ball!
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On February 06 2012 17:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:Meh, it's just highschool. Once you get out into the real world you'll realize that 99.9% of HS doesn't mean shit for shit.
Also this , highschool really means shit most of the time. Highly doubtful you'll have any valid life exp comming out of it ;/ Just dont be a pussy and miss oppurtinities , thats my advice
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On February 06 2012 17:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:Meh, it's just highschool. Once you get out into the real world you'll realize that 99.9% of HS doesn't mean shit for shit.
Agreed. I didn't even go to my grad, saved $500 thank you that paid for a new PC and nobody gives a shit about highschool.
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I don't know about your own preferences, but I just took a platonic friend to senior ball. Nice pictures, some dancing, nbd. College is the best time for girl stuffs. Don't fret.
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Best of luck but I just want to say THANK GOD I'm not 18 yrs old anymore and dealing with that dating scene. Jesus Christ. High school girl talking about marriage as if she has a clue LOL.
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It's highschool... It doesn't mean a fucking thing, so just go for it.
Seriously, you will hit university and chances are nobody will know shit about your past, so worrying about outcomes is completely pointless. Try to get as much experience as you can (and want), man.
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United Arab Emirates5091 Posts
omg high school... to be in high school again and hormone levels soaring and all that shit
Just go for the kill. Then you'll understand it's not such a big deal to be rejected. If she doesn't like you then it really doesn't matter what you do.
When you get rejected, just shrug it off. Just smile, look her in the eyes and give her a small nod. Then walk away make her think about if she just fucked up big time. Then do what ever the fuck you were going to do anyway. She sounds like one of those girls that think she's hot shit and so much more mature than everyone else and wants to date guys 10 years older than her. Just let her go and drown in her own delusions.
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No offence, sounds like you're in friendzone. You can still give it a shot though.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On February 06 2012 16:47 Roffles wrote:
Man up.
If that shit don't work out, plenty of girls in college. Don't fret it son.
Oh yeah, just because you ask someone out to a ball doesn't mean you have to commit to a real relationship.
We have a winner. You can go together as friends too. Either way, man up and ask
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I always thought a "girl blog" was a term relating to a blog that sounded like a whiney teenage girl writing in her diary.
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Boys friendzone themselves as much, if not more than, girls friendzone them.
Act like you have a pair, and fucking go for it.
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haha go for it man. even if she says no, what's the worse that could happen?
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It took me until I was in a foreign country to realize:
The worse that can happen is they say no.
Just do it.
You'll learn later that you can get a LOT more if you just ask.
Not only girls. Everything.
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seriously, high school is overrated. prom is just the epitome of useless times for everyone to get excited. once you grow up you'll have things happen that are actually meaningful.
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Listen to your penis man.
Always listen to your penisman.
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Let me break this down for ya
Case 1: she says yes and you fuck
Case 2: she says yes but go as friends, this is actually not bad at all as you can still have lots of fun
Case 3: she says no for whatever reason, this is still not that bad because you can still ask other people
It's still better to ask than not to ask, because you've already failed if you don't. I know prom seems like a huge deal, but it's really not.
At one point in your life, you will realize girls are dime a dozen, and they actually want to get asked out by guys.
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My first impression is that yes you've been what everyone calls 'friendzone'd. Despite popular beliefs, it's possible to break out of the zone, especially after a major achievement of some sort. We'll set that aside for now, because our focus is on getting a promsenior ball date for you, eh?
You have to first convince yourself that a senior ball date is not as big of a deal as people seem to make of it. For people that were already in a relationship before, sure this is the perfect night to go the distance in whatever wild ways they plan to. For everyone else, just pair up and enjoy a celebration of the useless years you endured in high school. On the other side, not going at all is a mistake you'll forever regret and be ridiculed for. Yes, I ridiculed a lot of friends in engineering because they didn't bother going to the prom - sad, really.
Two things here for you: you have to ask her as soon as possible and with a clear delivery. The worst thing, which I hope you'll avoid, is to ask her like a week before the event and "uhhh yeah hey I was sorta thinking... nevermind (off topic for 30 minutes) oh yeah and I just remembered errrrr are you going with anyone for the ball because if you don't, well, then I was thinking maybe then we could sorta uhhhhh go together if you don't mind" OH MY GOD I can't believe I typed out so much FAIL in one not even a complete sentence. You get the idea?
There probably are a bunch of high schoolers that's already grown a pair of giant steel balls and asked a bunch of decent girls out. Many will suddenly grow a pair and ask girls out before prom because that's sort of the right timing for those late-growers. Time is not on your side, friend. Also, girls are sly creatures and they 'sense' and 'anticipate' who's going to ask them (if not in relationship already). Once they get tired of the guy not making a move, they start dropping a bunch of hints and shit. It doesn't mean they want you to stick it in their vagina, it just means they want to go as a pair and have fun.
So back to you, what I get is that the girl is hinting that you should ask her to the senior ball. Yep. She's been trusting you with a lot of information that she doesn't normally share with people. You might feel like a friend, she might want you as just that, but she probably still wants to go to a senior ball with a partner. Do NOT follow the purposely terrible example given above, it doesn't even matter if she's with a couple other friends. Definitely a bad idea to do it in front of 30+ people or something, but don't wait like a month for that 'moment' when it's just you and her. Just pick a good time, I'm sure you'll know it yourself. If she starts talking about oh how her friends are going shopping for a new dress or how she thinks she'll need new shoes or that shit man that's like Terran lifting their rax just as your lings arrive at the ramp (ref: Light vs. Crazy-Hydra) SO ASK! "Hey [girl name], I think you're a wonderful person and I want you to be my date for the upcoming senior ball" is going to get the job done. Limit and eliminate all the if's and would you and maybe and the filler words, you let her damn know you want her. Look at her straight in the eyes, almost to stun her momentarily. Don't do anything creepy like grabbing her butt while saying it lol but hey, if you two are close enough of friends to hold hands and hug each other, then why not push the romance a bit and hold her hands while doing it?
This gets extra complicated - or I am making it more complicated it for you because I love TL girl blogs - because it's Valentine's Day soon. Okay you two are right now "friends" but Valentine's Day is a fantastic opportunity to kick things into gear for the brave souls daring to make a move. I'm sure your school has candygrams and rose deliveries and whatever cute generic services you can get for a dollar or two, and that's a fine thing to do, but you HAVE to ask her about the senior ball in person. Must-do-in-person. You can even hint it on the personal message that goes with those candygrams like "Happy Valentine's Day, See you in a bit while I gather some balls" okay that's not exactly a good idea lol scrap that, but yeah you have to ask her in person.
Based on the timing, you could even kick it off into a relationship. All this friendzone speculation is just speculation and maybe she wants you more than that, who knows.
Oh, and yeah be ready to buy her ticket lol girls seem to think that's the norm and there's not much we can do about that.
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On February 06 2012 16:33 Froadac wrote:
Maybe I should just ask her and not worry ;;
This. Stop thinking and just do it.
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Senior Ball isn't the same as asking her to be your girlfriend. You can use it as a stepping stone to further things or you can just go as friends and have fun. Just don't make it awkward for her and have fun.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Rofl OpShot writes an essay. Lmfao
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dont worry about being in the friendzone or whatever, all girls really want is a guy who can make them laugh (self-explanatory, but don't make a fool out of yourself. also if youre hot girls will laugh at your jokes or anything you say even if you;re not funny), take care of them/protect them (have a lot of money or be tough and strong. obviously in high school you dont have money but if youre a nerd which i assume you are because of the ap classes, youre going to get a job that pays good. so in the end girls want nerds, even if they spend a lot of their life chasing after tough strong jerks who treat them badly). they also like it when a guy is sweet and isnt afraid to cry in public situations...
anyway just be yourself and just ask her. youre probably not going to see her after high school so this is a great opportunity to get some experience with girls (remember girls are just humans like you and me, except they want to smell and look nice and have a lot of fat on their chest)
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On February 06 2012 17:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:Meh, it's just highschool. Once you get out into the real world you'll realize that 99.9% of HS doesn't mean shit for shit.
Yup. Realistically this is very true.
@OpticalShot: Epic essay has been written.
I shall post results. Dance isn't for some time, will probably ask in about a month. Who gives shit.
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Women are a pain in the ass. Just turn gay now and save yourself all the heartache.
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On February 07 2012 10:00 EternaLLegacy wrote:
Women are a pain in the ass. Just turn gay now and save yourself all the heartache.
but then in the long run you'd still get pains in the ass
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In the end, you can always ask a platonic friend to the dance, or perhaps an untaken girl in one of your circles of friends to make the group event a bit easier.
Hell, I didn't even have a date to senior prom, though I still had a blast and even won a free iHome from the after-party raffle.
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Go for it! It's just a dance- if things don't work out, who cares? If she wants to be "just friends," whatever man, just go have fun. Ask her, be a man, be a gentleman, show her a good time. If it doesn't work out in the form of a relationship, who knows? It could create great memories for a great friendship.
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On February 07 2012 10:32 DoX.) wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 10:00 EternaLLegacy wrote:
Women are a pain in the ass. Just turn gay now and save yourself all the heartache. but then in the long run you'd still get pains in the ass
Touche. Well played sir.
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On February 07 2012 10:48 Dalguno wrote:
Go for it! It's just a dance- if things don't work out, who cares? If she wants to be "just friends," whatever man, just go have fun. Ask her, be a man, be a gentleman, show her a good time. If it doesn't work out in the form of a relationship, who knows? It could create great memories for a great friendship.
I have no problem with this. I'm just worried she'll get pissed or hwanot. But if she is she isn't wroth being friends with.
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On February 07 2012 10:59 Froadac wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 10:48 Dalguno wrote:
Go for it! It's just a dance- if things don't work out, who cares? If she wants to be "just friends," whatever man, just go have fun. Ask her, be a man, be a gentleman, show her a good time. If it doesn't work out in the form of a relationship, who knows? It could create great memories for a great friendship. I have no problem with this. I'm just worried she'll get pissed or hwanot. But if she is she isn't wroth being friends with.
She'd be really irrational to get pissed if you asked her to the dance, and like you said, if she is, she isn't worth it. Now gogo! Good luck whatever you decide.
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Well, I"ll ask her. Dance isn't for like, uh, 3.5 months though lol.
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How far before is generally reasonable?
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
Dude, you're worrying over meaningless details. Just do it.
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Lol I would agree. But now? XD
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lol do not ask her now. do not. way too early man, will make you look too eager and desperate. instead of dropping the bomb now just make sure you two really hit it for these next 3 months. become great friends, get to know her more, make sure she feels same way, etc. then about 3 weeks before the big day, ask her.
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
Um, no, do it now.
Doing what Golgotha suggests isn't going to help your chances. If anything, it'll up your anxiety and increase the likelihood of you chicken-shitting out or finding excuses. And tbh, you're setting yourself up for all sorts of negative self-turmoil is you wait for 3 months, plotting your time to strike, only for her to say "no thanks" after you spend hours after hours agonizing over every fucking detail of when/where you're going to ask her, how you're going to say it, what you'll be wearing etc. etc. etc and missing opportunities with other girls because you've been focusing for way too fucking long on someone you probably couldn't have in the first place.
Just fucking do it so you can get used to being rejected and move on to the next one. And if she says yeah, all the better. 
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Learning rejection is all fine and dandy, but why go all in so damn soon? asking a girl to a dance that is 3.5 months away is ridiculous. We want froadac to be cool and chill and not some over eager boy obsessing about a ball. I believe that there is always a right time do things, why not wait for the best moment and then ask? meanwhile, the OP can further gauge the situation and see if the girl feels the same way.
look, if you gonna ask her now, then might as well just ask her to be your girlfriend. either way she will understand that you really really like her.
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What did I say in my essay post?
Ask asap and with clarity.
Quality + single girls get taken real fast in prom season. You know as well as anyone that all the 'single' girls are fair game, no matter how much friendship she has with a boy or another. Asking her past Valentine's Day is asking for a disaster. It's like completing your 2-1 mech upgrades and not moving out against carrier-teching Protoss - you still have a chance to win later, but it's going to be hell. At least from my personal experience, all the decent girls were booked at the end of February (my prom was in May IIRC).
I'd hate to give you the what if scenarios, but since you're not entirely convinced yet, how about this? You wait 3 months, agonizing as ETT said, then ask her in the most awkward fashion ever with an obvious desperate tone, but she says someone asked her two months ago and she said yes to him. You will have no option by then (only 0.5 month left), and you would have disappointed both yourself and her.
I'm not trying to push action just for the short-term entertainment sake of TL, and I'm sure others are feeling the same. From our collective experiences, asking early is monumentally better than later. You also have to do prom-prep like:
1) signing up for tables/seating,
2) booking the limo,
3) planning the after-party (VERY IMPORTANT), and
4) pre-ordering the corsage to match her dress (so you gotta know what dress she's wearing).
There is going to be bad drama if you don't do item 1 well ahead of the actual sign-up date. Limos may get booked out depending on availability. I highly suggest NOT going to the 'official after-party' (I'm sure every school has one), have a private one with close friends (or just your date, ehhh). Corsage is a small detail but girls do appreciate it if you put a little thought into it.
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