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On February 05 2012 22:47 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 22:41 Joedaddy wrote:On February 05 2012 22:38 Roggay wrote:On February 05 2012 22:36 Joedaddy wrote:
So you got tired of playing in Plat, then worker rushed you way into bronze where you are currently spending your time trolling people you are 3+ leagues better than and blog about it on TL to say "lol noob?" Really?
What you are failing at recognizing is that he is not using anything from 3+ leagues above, he is using what bronze leaguers could use aswell (and do). Granted, but if me and IMMvp both worker rushed each other 100 times, I'd lose all 100 of them. He's not MVP, I know, but his mechanics/micro are such that he has an unfair advantage over the lower league guys he's trolling. No, but you have to remember that in a worker rush scenario, the ONLY thing you have to do is a-click past his workers. In fact, microing further than that often time is not a particularly good thing. You will NOT lose to that if you simply a-click.
Sounds like he's graduated from worker rushing bronze to playing longer games. The whole thing stinks to me. Guy was in Plat > Guy demotes to bronze > Guy beats up on bronze leaguers > Guy blogs about beating up bronze leaguers > People laugh.
I know its a game and not real life, but the real life analogy is a high school kid bullying grade school kids and then blogging about it.
I'll leave it alone since so many people seem to enjoy it and someone with a feature button thinks its cool to smurf/troll/whatever you want to call it the low leagues.
1/5 from me though on content. 5/5 for the effort put into the post itself.
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you know.... this is pretty funny... but in an ugly kind of way. I really hate that I find this funny.
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this is the greatest blog post ever
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On February 05 2012 23:02 Inori wrote:
If he was playing against his own level of opponents, doing stupid crap and still winning, that would be awesome.
This is just sad, especially considering it managed to drag for 6 blogs.
The fact that he's a terrible player himself doesn't help either.
you mean like when i 12/10 drone rush diamond terrans and instawin?
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You sir, are hilarious. Funnily enough i found this thread in the german Blizzard forum, with the title "low league players dont get enough respect". How to get respect for those people....
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On February 05 2012 23:26 Inori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 23:23 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:On February 05 2012 23:02 Inori wrote:
If he was playing against his own level of opponents, doing stupid crap and still winning, that would be awesome.
This is just sad, especially considering it managed to drag for 6 blogs.
The fact that he's a terrible player himself doesn't help either. you mean like when i 12/10 drone rush diamond terrans and instawin? Well that drone rush can be classified as a legit cheese and not 'stupid crap and still winning' (heck, I even saw WhiteRa lose to it), but yes, even that is better than humiliating lower league players for 6 blogs in a row.
So you're calling a 12/10 drone rush legit cheese and a 7 drone/probe/SCV rush NOT legit cheese?
Damn, the hypocrisy in that post is astounding.
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On February 05 2012 23:02 Inori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 22:47 Roggay wrote:On February 05 2012 22:41 Joedaddy wrote:On February 05 2012 22:38 Roggay wrote:On February 05 2012 22:36 Joedaddy wrote:
So you got tired of playing in Plat, then worker rushed you way into bronze where you are currently spending your time trolling people you are 3+ leagues better than and blog about it on TL to say "lol noob?" Really?
What you are failing at recognizing is that he is not using anything from 3+ leagues above, he is using what bronze leaguers could use aswell (and do). Granted, but if me and IMMvp both worker rushed each other 100 times, I'd lose all 100 of them. He's not MVP, I know, but his mechanics/micro are such that he has an unfair advantage over the lower league guys he's trolling. No, but you have to remember that in a worker rush scenario, the ONLY thing you have to do is a-click past his workers. In fact, microing further than that often time is not a particularly good thing. You will NOT lose to that if you simply a-click. No matter how much you try to justify it, he's still abusing the fact that some people are unable to do so (for whatever reason, it doesn't matter) and then laughs at them and then posts a blog post about it for everyone to laugh. Also the "it should be obvious, their fault!!" argument is really cute, but subjective. Obvious to whom? To him or to his opponents? A lot of things are obvious to masters/GM players that apparently are not to him (since he didn't even get out of platinum), you don't see them humiliating him about it. If he was playing against his own level of opponents, doing stupid crap and still winning, that would be awesome. This is just sad, especially considering it managed to drag for 6 blogs. The fact that he's a terrible player himself doesn't help either.
In all honesty, worker rushes are so common in bronze that if one denies himself the possibility to learn how to counter those, it's just really sad they are trying to pretend they want to play a 'real game'. Because the purpose of 'real games' is winning, you should be on your way to learning how to do so long time ago. It doesn't excuse you that you don't have enough time to play or that you have just bought the game, especially since Gheed does not actually make fun of such people. If you have just bought the game, you are probably on your way out of bronze, and if you don't have enough time to actually learn from your own mistakes, then I'm even more horrified by the thought of meeting you in person.
All in all, it's a game, with rules well-known by everyone, not handicapping anyone in an immediate manner; whoever you are faced against, you are both on an even ground and both have to follow those rules in order to win. If you don't play to win, you cannot possibly blame anyone who is playing to win, in whatever not prohibited by the rules way; and if you want to win and still whine about whatever shit you want to put the blame on but yourself, then I pity you very, very hard.
And for crying out loud, if you believe that everyone should be equal (as in the humiliation part is not a proper thing to do, as they should have a chance to do... what, play the game?), then consider this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=304674#20
I'm not even sure why I responded to this.
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ROFL that last picture!!!
The level of thinking of these people is rather sad though.. Maybe they're trolling.
Edit:
It's not that he's bullying. He's using a bad strategy and kind of abusing the lack of basic sc2 knowledge of his opponents. It's just 3 minutes of their time. I can't imagine Gheed BMing someone who was friendly.
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I love you, man. That was hilarious and gives me a good idea for one of my accounts when I'm bored ^^
And yes, you will never understand bronze players, they just...suck, really really suck....
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A legit cheese is a cheese that works ? that's quite hypocritical I think.
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On February 05 2012 23:38 Inori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 23:30 Ciryandor wrote:On February 05 2012 23:26 Inori wrote:On February 05 2012 23:23 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:On February 05 2012 23:02 Inori wrote:
If he was playing against his own level of opponents, doing stupid crap and still winning, that would be awesome.
This is just sad, especially considering it managed to drag for 6 blogs.
The fact that he's a terrible player himself doesn't help either. you mean like when i 12/10 drone rush diamond terrans and instawin? Well that drone rush can be classified as a legit cheese and not 'stupid crap and still winning' (heck, I even saw WhiteRa lose to it), but yes, even that is better than humiliating lower league players for 6 blogs in a row. So you're calling a 12/10 drone rush legit cheese and a 7 drone/probe/SCV rush NOT legit cheese? Damn, the hypocrisy in that post is astounding. 12/10 drone rush that doesn't work against GM Koreans with impeccable worker micro 6/7 worker rush comes at funky timing that can catch Bronze player off guard You're either elitist master jerk or troll to not see the difference.
FTFY
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On February 05 2012 23:38 Bojas wrote:
It's not that he's bullying. He's using a bad strategy and kind of abusing the lack of basic sc2 knowledge of his opponents. It's just 3 minutes of their time. I can't imagine Gheed BMing someone who was friendly.
Knowledge is more like a power in starcraft so in a sense he is more powerful than his opponents if they don't know how to a move. So he is abusing weaker players.
It can be just 3 minutes of their time or maybe it's much more. If somebody gets harvester rushed three times in a row i can see him being even for some time after a game or you can ruin his game so much he wont play anymore. I don't think it's a good thing, do you?
And of course he won't BM someone who is friendly, but he is purposely trying to make them angry so he can post their rage on his blog.
And it's not like he is trying to help them. He could just write them and say "Hey, I'm sorry for doing this strategy. But it is easy to hold. You just box all your workers click A or attack icon and click behind enemy workers and that way they start attacking and you should have much more units."
How can you say it's not bullying? Btw usually bullying starts as a fun for people watching it.
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Oh man that last picture.
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hilarious blog, nice pictures
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EPT
