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hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 00:40:11
February 13 2012 00:39 GMT
#381
On February 13 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 09:07 hillman wrote:
LOL, won't be reading any more articles from you again ....


I'm crushed.

Thanks for the bump, mate.



No need to take it personally bro, which is of course why you lash out like that....I guess my opinion is stupid, right Gheed? But then again I guess a small niche article on a niche site that maybe 6,000 people will read is your life...so good for you...bumped again man...just getting you more revenue...oh wait...
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 01:07:46
February 13 2012 01:05 GMT
#382
You apparently don't know anything about Gheed's blogs if you think he's MAD about your posts, LOL.

Oh, and if TL is apparently a niche site, then I don't know how 'ESPORTS' could grow then.
iruel
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada75 Posts
February 13 2012 07:25 GMT
#383
i laughed, i cried, i came.... this was a beautiful read.
i like soup
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
February 13 2012 08:16 GMT
#384
On February 13 2012 09:07 hillman wrote: You want to know what could potentially kill E-sports? Shit like this...


Goddammit, Gheed, you're gonna kill ESPORTS.

5 stars, easy.
Elefes
Profile Joined September 2011
Russian Federation164 Posts
February 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#385
- Do a successful worker rush
- Get rid of kid not being able to 1-A
- (some high-class logic)

---> You hurt E-SPORTS!!! o_O
SonOfBoxer
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)62 Posts
February 13 2012 10:45 GMT
#386
On February 04 2012 15:33 Ezkaton wrote:
I love you ♥


That makes two of us ♥

First time reading your blog, but you're just too awesome xDDD
No Pain, No Gain.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
February 13 2012 20:04 GMT
#387
Hahaha this made my day!
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
MistaBlue
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 04:40:39
February 13 2012 20:22 GMT
#388
Boner Amanda
Miracle_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2 Posts
February 13 2012 23:47 GMT
#389
On February 14 2012 05:22 MistaBlue wrote:
I recall playing Gheed about a week ago on a ladder game...You can check my battle.net profile to verifiy this. Gheed, while obviously a very intelligent and dedicated starcraft 2 player/blogger, was extremely condescending. He decided to go Void Ray and beat my stupid bronze butt because I didn't properly control my queens. After a couple games, I saw him again. This time he decided to go mass photon cannon in one base while I attemped to break his defense. After beating him, he presumed to say "wow you're not very good at this game are you?" I did not care to respond. He also mentioned that he had been watching anime the entire time...My point is that it takes away from your "social experiment" when you act like a jerk to anyone who doesn't meet your standards on the ladder. The Bronze league is what it is. Half the players are noobs(like me) who just want to get better and are struggling with the mechanics. The other half are guys who just plain don't care about improving and want to play their own style. Knowing how Gheed acts on ladder takes away from this blog and it's a shame because it's very well-written.


Yeah. You should stop sucking.
"He wasn’t even sure he was alive, because he was living like a dead man."
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
February 14 2012 00:45 GMT
#390
On February 14 2012 05:22 MistaBlue wrote:
I recall playing Gheed about a week ago on a ladder game...You can check my battle.net profile to verifiy this. Gheed, while obviously a very intelligent and dedicated starcraft 2 player/blogger, was extremely condescending. He decided to go Void Ray and beat my stupid bronze butt because I didn't properly control my queens. After a couple games, I saw him again. This time he decided to go mass photon cannon in one base while I attemped to break his defense. After beating him, he presumed to say "wow you're not very good at this game are you?" I did not care to respond. He also mentioned that he had been watching anime the entire time...My point is that it takes away from your "social experiment" when you act like a jerk to anyone who doesn't meet your standards on the ladder. The Bronze league is what it is. Half the players are noobs(like me) who just want to get better and are struggling with the mechanics. The other half are guys who just plain don't care about improving and want to play their own style. Knowing how Gheed acts on ladder takes away from this blog and it's a shame because it's very well-written.


This never happened.
Swift118
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 11:19:50
February 14 2012 11:18 GMT
#391
You sure are getting some notoriety, check the guy a couple of posts above who posted on some slanderous text in an attempt to demean your "research".

Honestly though, well written blog, an enjoyable read although its kind of obvious that you can win games with almost any strategy in bronze if you have a reasonable amount of knowledge of sc2.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 14 2012 11:35 GMT
#392
On February 14 2012 09:45 Gheed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 05:22 MistaBlue wrote:
I recall playing Gheed about a week ago on a ladder game...You can check my battle.net profile to verifiy this. Gheed, while obviously a very intelligent and dedicated starcraft 2 player/blogger, was extremely condescending. He decided to go Void Ray and beat my stupid bronze butt because I didn't properly control my queens. After a couple games, I saw him again. This time he decided to go mass photon cannon in one base while I attemped to break his defense. After beating him, he presumed to say "wow you're not very good at this game are you?" I did not care to respond. He also mentioned that he had been watching anime the entire time...My point is that it takes away from your "social experiment" when you act like a jerk to anyone who doesn't meet your standards on the ladder. The Bronze league is what it is. Half the players are noobs(like me) who just want to get better and are struggling with the mechanics. The other half are guys who just plain don't care about improving and want to play their own style. Knowing how Gheed acts on ladder takes away from this blog and it's a shame because it's very well-written.


This never happened.


I love how he now cancelled it lol. This thread has been most entertaining.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
February 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#393
People need to understand that this blog isn't about Bronzies who can't defend worker rushes with a-move, it's about Bronzies who can't defend worker rushes with a-move and instead of trying to learn what happened (which is a 1 google search away) just flame the other player with a broken grammer. As stated in the blog, there is a very large difference between new players who start in Bronze and they are willing to learn and will not stay in Bronze as it is very easy to get out, and the players who just blame the game for being flawed, stating that they can't get out because they are "slow", or just throw insults at the other player for winning them with a strategy that isn't up to their moral standards.
Great read Gheed, enjoyed it very much, the lawsuit part was priceless xD
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
February 17 2012 17:13 GMT
#394
what if i told you my hobby was to study how people react when presented with baffling facts, and that i am in at least 7 of those screenshots?
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crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
February 17 2012 18:46 GMT
#395
I want to do this now for the lulz.
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 18:57:32
February 17 2012 18:56 GMT
#396
On February 13 2012 02:16 Pingu242 wrote:
Anyone else find this Gheed guy an egomaniac douche bag who derives pleasure from beating down (most likely) children learning to play a game? What a dick.


Yeah, I partly agree with that, my little brother is 10 years old (9 when he started) and he is one of these players who fit very well into the description... he only plays teamgames now because of the amount of worker and cannon rushes in low bronze (and rages at his teammates who are like 10 times better than him and says they suck LOL). He hasn't played SC2 for a while though and he was never allowed to play a whole lot of video games in the first place, so he never used this rare play time to practice or anything, actually he mostly played campaign and AI anyway
He got a lot better, but for new players (especially young ones) the whole RTS genre is really abstract and you shouldn't assume they act logically just because everything looks logical and easy for YOU or because they played a lot of games before. Hell, some players down there are even that young that they can't really deal with numbers in any way above the most basic of set theory. They just like how the units look and they have some kind of weird strategies in their head that don't make a lot of sense when you know how RTS work, they just do what they like and what looks cool or strong for them.

I still appreciate the amount of effort put into these blogs and they are well written, so as much as I dislike his attitude and view on other players on ladder I like how much work he puts in so we can enjoy reading it, and I think he shouldn't stop doing it. There is so much bad trolling in the internet, I like some trolling with effort put in.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 17 2012 20:50 GMT
#397
On February 18 2012 02:13 intrigue wrote:
what if i told you my hobby was to study how people react when presented with baffling facts, and that i am in at least 7 of those screenshots?

that settles it, I am parking an alt account into bronze
Supert0fu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States499 Posts
February 20 2012 03:12 GMT
#398
This post made me sad
whiteguycash
Profile Joined April 2010
United States476 Posts
February 20 2012 16:15 GMT
#399
Alright, now, lets see a net worth comparison of your bronze league opponents vs your net worth, gogogo!
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 18:18:59
February 20 2012 18:13 GMT
#400
It's weird seeing people get offended by this blog. The point of laddering is to see how you measure up and to practice to get better and therefore climb the ladder. If you can't defend against a really bad strategy, you might have a glaring flaw in your game. If someone is resistant to someone telling him how to defeat it, claiming OP/cheap/whatever on that rush, why would that person try and ladder? To have "good" games that consist of turtling on one base for 20 minutes and then moving out with 5 broodlords?

While I don't really get Gheed's motivation in playing these games either (stuff like decals on buildings and achievements never sparked my interest), these blogs are well written and highly entertaining. Anyone saying that behavior like this will scare away new players from the community, I highly disagree. The players that have an interest in getting better will come and read up on stuff, and learn how a worker rush is a bad strategy within a week. Players who have no interest in the competitive side of the game will not come here, since they won't find anything of interest for them. TL might look elitist, but that's because it always has been, that's why I keep comming here.

A friend of mine, who is not a gamer by any means, started out not long after release of SC2 and started in bronze. His RTS experience prior to SC2 were bot games with cheats in BW. I played some 2v2s with him, we played some 1v1s, because he actually wanted to get better, he asked me some stuff. I never taught him a whole lot. I just told him to build more workers, answered his question "and if they rush?" with "that's why you send out a scout" and to just keep spending his ressources. Left him alone for a few months and he made his way to diamond with just a couple of games a week. If you want to learn and get better, it doesn't take that much.

So where I am getting at, I can't see any reason why someone would ladder, rage at a worker rush and at the same time seemingly not improve at the game. They either don't care about getting better at all or are unable to do so. I assume the first, because everyone can learn if they are just willing to. Is it just their ego preventing them from seeing their own mistakes? Or is it really them just not caring about the results? But why do they ladder and get mad then? I don't get it.


Edit: And I think I meant to post this in the newer installment. How do I forum?
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