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Hello TL it's me again. I can see you think "Who the hell is this guy...?". I wrote an embarrassing [Girl Blog] about 6 months ago. But that is not what is on my mind for the moment.
This blog got me thinking again about afterlife. I have my own theory about what happens when you die. Well, it is like most non-religious people think. You stop producing thoughts and your body begins decomposing. Your life is over. But strangely enough you might think, I don't think it ends there.
You have probably heard of singularity. A point in time where human civilization is so advanced, every second, human knowledge doubles. Very advanced computers become our scientists (and/or our rulers). Humans may survive it but I am not sure. But if we survive, what will our 'goals' be. Travel deep into space? Colonize every planet in the entire universe? What will we do when that is done? Could we revive people? Imagine an algorithmic system where we could go back in time, not by literary going back in time by sending people into a time machine, but simulate the experience of going back in time. Every explosion, wind, breath, heartbeat, butterfly calculated and predicted what will happen. We could see how atoms and DNA were made up in people, and with the technology that we have, rebuild humans. We could restore every memory, every cell in your body, and it would be like you never died. As a death human reviving you wont even believe you died before anyone told you. Because you would have no memory of being death and dying would just seem like you passed out and came back conscience. But will it be the SAME person you were? Or just a clone?
Why would we revive people? Why would that benefit us? We have everything we want. We can look at our history trough the 'time machine' and see what really happened. We could simulate the experience mentally and even interact with it to see what could have happened. But why on earth would we revive people if it doesn't benefit us?
I don't know actually. Maybe as pets, the emotional factor. "For only 1995,- Spacecoins you can have your own 21st century nerd! Buy now!". Simulating you would not be like having you around in the spacehut.
That is why I am not afraid of dying, because I don't think anyone, ever is going to really die. Only if the universe stops existing. And if we have a solution for that problem, we would kill ourselfs with the technology that prevented the universe from existing. But only if we still are human.
 
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I disagree with all of that.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2012 11:57 FortyOzs wrote:
I disagree with all of that. Man, fuck you.
That's very interesting. Care to explain more about what happens to the dead person when he well, dies? How is he brought back to life? I mean, if a corpse were to lay in the ground for a hundred years or so it would be beyond saving.
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The word Swampman and afterlife reminded me of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_Man
You might not continue to exist after dying but if you're lucky your body might end up in a museum of an alien civilization.
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my friend says that OUR generation is going to be the one that turns their bodies into machines and goes out to space to colonize everything.
hahaha
cool bro . I might die though. T_T
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On January 13 2012 12:03 Azera wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 13 2012 11:57 FortyOzs wrote:
I disagree with all of that. Man, fuck you. That's very interesting. Care to explain more about what happens to the dead person when he well, dies? How is he brought back to life? I mean, if a corpse were to lay in the ground for a hundred years or so it would be beyond saving.
I was thinking about that yesterday after I had written this post. The Swampman wikipediapage goes into that a bit. But I read there that some philosophers don't believe in thought experiments like this. But I am going to do it anyway :p
This is all about conscience, whether or not the same 'YOU' is still in the body that is rebuild. Let's call the new build body the clone since it is build out of atoms not originally from you, but it's structure is exactly the same, only different in space and time.
The first intuition says that it is in fact a different person. It does not make any sense that the same conscience is in that body.
So what happens with the conscience when you die? What would happen if you die, but are revived just one second later in your dead body (taking the big assumption that that is even possible). Will the same conscience be in your body? My intuition would say yes. What would happen if you get revived from that body a million years later. Will it be the same you? Who else would it be? Maybe a new you that thinks it is you but is actually not you?
Imagine the dead body. And next to it is a cloning machine. It makes an identical clone right next to the dead body. People would say that the clone does not have the same conscience despite the clone thinking it has. The dead body is you. What if you make two clones? It is impossible for them to have the same conscience.
So assuming that reviving original dead bodies is possible there must be some kind of spirit. Not a religious spirit, but something with the same mechanisms. The conscience would be lost forever?
What happens when you sleep. If you go to bed and wake up, is it the same you, or is it someone that thinks it is you because it has the same memories? It is the same you probably.
Does the conscience even exist?
Even something more strange, what would happen if it was possible for the cloning machine to search for the original atoms and rebuild your body with it? Would that be the same you? How else could we recreate your conscience?
I know it's a lot of ifs, and that is probably where the possibility of something like this falls apart. We just can't assume things.
To come back at your question how it would work when the body decomposed completely. That doesn't matter because the time machine could see back in time at the exact moment you died. If you were for example killed by a bullet, it would recreate your body just before the impact of the bullet. If you had a disease it would take your body minus the disease (bacteria and virusses) and any damage would be healed by looking what would have happened if the disease disappeared at that moment in time. Again by simulating the experience by the time machine.
This may raise another problem. If you take the body but not at the exact time the body died, would that give you the same conscience. If you get revived as if you were 5 years old, would that have the same conscience. What if you take the original atoms? A lot of questions that just go beyond me because I don't understand the conscience. But it is still a possibility because we don't know the answer (yet).
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