• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:19
CEST 21:19
KST 04:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
Where is EffOrt? BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total War: Warhammer 40K Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7960 users

2012 and what to expect!

Blogs > JinXsc
Post a Reply
ChewSenTv
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 03:56:25
December 28 2011 03:05 GMT
#1
Hello there Liquidians,
I just want to get everybodies thoughts on what we should expect from the New Year coming up. I want to know what all of you expect from the tournaments in the Starcraft2 scene, and what your predictions are on the results for whatever tournaments come up, in regards to Koreans vs Foreigners. Also i would like to hear all of your opinions on the roster changes to most teams in the scene, like Zenio going to Team Liquid and how he can benefit from them and they the same from him. I hope to hear some good feedback and i would like to interact with the community more and get your opinions.
I personally believe this is the year of the Foreigners. I believe if EGidra stays long enough to play in tournaments, he will take home a GSL championship and be the first Foreigner to win a GSL championship. Although, wouldn't it be really cool to see EGidra vs EGHuK in the finals O.o
Pm me - JinXsc
Tweet me @ https://twitter.com/#!/JinXsc



*
neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
December 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#2
It's 2011 and I expect that a blog with a title like yours would at least contain what you expect to see in 2012.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 03:41:52
December 28 2011 03:39 GMT
#3
I predict a foreigner winning GSL around mid-2012, either June or July. o.O

Starcraft 2 is a volatile and user-friendly game. Also with Koreans letting foreigners into their practice environments, and letting them ask questions and providing insight from the absolute best players, it's not at all unlikely to see this happen, in my opinion.
ChewSenTv
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
December 28 2011 03:53 GMT
#4
On December 28 2011 12:39 Flamingo777 wrote:
I predict a foreigner winning GSL around mid-2012, either June or July. o.O

Starcraft 2 is a volatile and user-friendly game. Also with Koreans letting foreigners into their practice environments, and letting them ask questions and providing insight from the absolute best players, it's not at all unlikely to see this happen, in my opinion.



I agree with you, i was thinking the same thing. Although i think it will come sooner then that....i am thinking more of the lines of February or March. Especially if EGidra stays for a long period of time. I see him winning the GSL very soon
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 03:59:08
December 28 2011 03:57 GMT
#5
On December 28 2011 12:53 JinXsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 12:39 Flamingo777 wrote:
I predict a foreigner winning GSL around mid-2012, either June or July. o.O

Starcraft 2 is a volatile and user-friendly game. Also with Koreans letting foreigners into their practice environments, and letting them ask questions and providing insight from the absolute best players, it's not at all unlikely to see this happen, in my opinion.



I agree with you, i was thinking the same thing. Although i think it will come sooner then that....i am thinking more of the lines of February or March. Especially if EGidra stays for a long period of time. I see him winning the GSL very soon

Seriously? You'd put your bets on Idra?

I'll make a less bold prediction and say a foreigner will make a top 4. Also that it won't be Idra, my money's on Sen or Naniwa. I'd say Stephano but it doesnt look like hes too committed to playing in Korea.

Edit: Or a lot of the Mouz guys might have a good chance if they stay in Korea for long periods of time. Specifically I'm thinking Mana, Thorzain, and Morrow.

Actually scratch all that, Idra vs Artosis GSL August grand finals, easy.

ChewSenTv
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
December 28 2011 03:59 GMT
#6
Mwhaha indeed that would be an epic finals for GSL, but who would cast along side Tasteless....Day9?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 28 2011 04:13 GMT
#7
No foreigner will win gsl in 2012.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
December 28 2011 04:14 GMT
#8
I doubt any foreigner will win the GSL/get to the finals in the not too distant future,foreigners teams lack two things,coaches and dedication.I wouldn't specially bet on IdrA getting out of RO32 Code S due to his predictable style of gameplay that Koreans know better than anyone how to counter,and with all the travelling I have severe doubts HuK will make it to Code S again.

But eh gl to Sen :D.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
December 28 2011 04:30 GMT
#9
On December 28 2011 12:57 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 12:53 JinXsc wrote:
On December 28 2011 12:39 Flamingo777 wrote:
I predict a foreigner winning GSL around mid-2012, either June or July. o.O

Starcraft 2 is a volatile and user-friendly game. Also with Koreans letting foreigners into their practice environments, and letting them ask questions and providing insight from the absolute best players, it's not at all unlikely to see this happen, in my opinion.



I agree with you, i was thinking the same thing. Although i think it will come sooner then that....i am thinking more of the lines of February or March. Especially if EGidra stays for a long period of time. I see him winning the GSL very soon

Seriously? You'd put your bets on Idra?

I'll make a less bold prediction and say a foreigner will make a top 4. Also that it won't be Idra, my money's on Sen or Naniwa. I'd say Stephano but it doesnt look like hes too committed to playing in Korea.

Edit: Or a lot of the Mouz guys might have a good chance if they stay in Korea for long periods of time. Specifically I'm thinking Mana, Thorzain, and Morrow.

Actually scratch all that, Idra vs Artosis GSL August grand finals, easy.


That will be after Artosis switches to Terran and shows all the Korean pro's how easy Terran mech is. Am I right?
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
December 28 2011 04:49 GMT
#10
Alright I don't know where all this foreigner winning gsl is coming from but it doesn't make any sense.
1. There will be 5 gsl season in 2012. there was what like 9 in 2011?
2. Foreigners have shown no improvement is gsl, huk finally dropped from code s, jinro's long gone, Naniwa's kicked out but lost 0-2on his only time in code a before anyways, Stephano's leaving and couldn't make it out of his group in the 10 man tournament he was in. SaSe's still in code b, morrow lost in up/downs, pretty much sen and Idra are the only people in a good position and they were freebie seeds. Sen can't stand up to the likes of MVP and DRG or tosses like MC. Idra has shown promising games versus MC, Nestea, and others. He is the only person I see making it to the max round of 8 in season 1.
3. Why would anything change just because they number we assign to our time changes? The 1 changing to a 2 somehow gives white people super powers to beat Koreans in starcraft? lol
esports
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 09:50:23
December 28 2011 09:49 GMT
#11
There is almost a 0% chance that a foreigner will win GSL - if a foreigner gets into the ro8, this will be a big achievement already.

As for tournaments, I pretty much see the same as 2011, except I think the NASL will die or at least not have the huge prize money that it currently has.

I also predict an influx of former BW-pros and hope that an S-class player will switch to SC2.
Ex_Combat
Profile Joined December 2011
35 Posts
December 28 2011 10:44 GMT
#12
I predict that the world will end.

The ground collapse into the molten core and there will be giant tidal waves that will swallow cities. I however will barely escape each of these but only just in the nick of time, through conveniently placed transports.

I also predict (hope to fuck) that a foreigner will win the GSL, and then escape along with my self in said conveniently placed transport just before the ground collapses from under us.

Him and I will make long and squidgy love on the flight until the next escape scene.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 11:18:57
December 28 2011 11:18 GMT
#13
On December 28 2011 13:13 Mattchew wrote:
No foreigner will win gsl in 2012.


Not a chance in hell, after losing to grrr im sure they came together and decided to never let that happen again
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 28 2011 11:34 GMT
#14
I have yet to see foreigners consistently take full matches of koreans where koreans had enough time to prepare for them, they even get knocked out by the ''lesser'' koreans in that format.

Ill be impressed if someone makes it to ro8.
WriterXiao8~~
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 400
UpATreeSC 189
ProTech147
Livibee 73
JuggernautJason53
MindelVK 33
RushiSC 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3312
Shuttle 638
EffOrt 484
Sea 456
Mini 425
Soulkey 227
Dewaltoss 181
firebathero 118
ggaemo 113
Mong 60
[ Show more ]
sorry 22
Sacsri 17
IntoTheRainbow 13
Shine 12
Dota 2
420jenkins490
monkeys_forever268
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1294
Super Smash Bros
PPMD19
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu335
Other Games
pashabiceps4228
Grubby3079
FrodaN1088
B2W.Neo773
Beastyqt702
Dendi650
ceh9615
C9.Mang0210
ArmadaUGS163
BRAT_OK 95
Trikslyr76
OptimusSC22
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream3416
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 37
• 80smullet 11
• Michael_bg 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade957
Other Games
• imaqtpie860
• Shiphtur202
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 41m
Replay Cast
13h 41m
The PondCast
1d 14h
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-15
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.