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Ugh feminism....

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ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
December 21 2011 18:42 GMT
#1
Just recently, as in today, I was roaming youtube, and I came across a feminism based youtube channel. At first I was intrigued. I thought to myself, does feminism even exist anymore in 1st world countries? Is it as big of a deal as it was 20, 30, 40, 100 years ago, or is it women or men reaching for something that isn't there? After watching several of this woman's videos, I've come to the conclusion that she is reaching. The lady attempts to pull feminism into any media type. She uses songs, movies, television shows and other aspects of our cultural lives to portray the bias' toward women. I believe she is reaching to an extent that it looks dumb. Her most recent video is called: Top 5 Creepy and Sexist Christmas Songs. She attempts to dilute Christmas music by saying that they are creepy and sexist, which I take personal because I love Christmas songs. The first song she uses as an example is 'All I want For Christmas' by Mariah Carey. She states that it's the "tired, old all I need is a man grift.' I disagree completely. The song is about wanting love. It's about not being lonely and wanting your other half. The next song she uses is "I saw Mami Kissing Santa clause" I've never heard this song before. She states that it's creepy that mami cheated on her husband with Santa clause, but leaves it at that. The 3rd song she uses as an example is "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas" stating that the toys kids want are gender based. Of course they are! Most girls want dolls, while boys want toy guns. Quit trying to break a standard.


I'm tired of writing, but you get the point. I dislike feminists that try to use tropes as their crutch.


btw, the last song "baby it's cold outside" she states is a man date raping a girl. it's absurd.

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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
December 21 2011 18:45 GMT
#2
I tend to dislike most things ending with "ists".

Imagine if there was a zerg unit called "Feminisk". Doesn't do any real damage, it just makes noise to annoy you.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 18:46:50
December 21 2011 18:46 GMT
#3
I wouldn't paint feminism with this broad of a brush. Feminism is about equality, some "extreme" feminists hijack it into shit like this, but don't lump it all together.

I am, and we should all be feminists.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
December 21 2011 18:48 GMT
#4
On December 22 2011 03:46 Zorkmid wrote:
I wouldn't paint feminism with this broad of a brush. Feminism is about equality, some "extreme" feminists hijack it into shit like this, but don't lump it all together.

I am, and we should all be feminists.

Personally, I feel that we've reached equality, and if we continue, then it'll end up with men on the other end of the stick. I can't find a job as a bartender at most places because i'm not a pretty girl for instance. That's not equal!
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
December 21 2011 18:49 GMT
#5
On December 22 2011 03:46 Zorkmid wrote:
I wouldn't paint feminism with this broad of a brush. Feminism is about equality, some "extreme" feminists hijack it into shit like this, but don't lump it all together.

I am, and we should all be feminists.


Disagree. If anything, we should all be equalists.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 18:50:52
December 21 2011 18:49 GMT
#6
yeah, this is like judging gaming based on this article http://gizmodo.com/5833787/my-brief-okcupid-affair-with-a-world-champion-magic-the-gathering-player

On December 22 2011 03:48 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 03:46 Zorkmid wrote:
I wouldn't paint feminism with this broad of a brush. Feminism is about equality, some "extreme" feminists hijack it into shit like this, but don't lump it all together.

I am, and we should all be feminists.

Personally, I feel that we've reached equality, and if we continue, then it'll end up with men on the other end of the stick. I can't find a job as a bartender at most places because i'm not a pretty girl for instance. That's not equal!

certain controversial issues in politics (oh god i am going to regret bringing this up) are extremely strong arguments otherwise.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 21 2011 18:50 GMT
#7
In France (but I guess it's like this everywhere, except perhaps the northern europe countries), women earn 25% less at equal job and qualification.
So feminism still has solid grounds. Some feminism, like the one in OP, is dumb and counterproductive tho.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
December 21 2011 18:51 GMT
#8
On December 22 2011 03:45 HackBenjamin wrote:
I tend to dislike most things ending with "ists".

Imagine if there was a zerg unit called "Feminisk". Doesn't do any real damage, it just makes noise to annoy you.


This guy wins the thread, the internet, and feminism.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 21 2011 18:51 GMT
#9
Some feminists are crazy. Just take it with a grain of salt and laugh - there are legitimate feminists who try to deal with real problems and there are extremists who hate men - sometimes because they've had bad experiences in the past, sometimes because they're crazy...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 21 2011 18:52 GMT
#10
The Femenisk probably costs way more than an ultralisk, while sucking extra minerlas/gas per minute.
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
December 21 2011 18:53 GMT
#11
On December 22 2011 03:49 HackBenjamin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 03:46 Zorkmid wrote:
I wouldn't paint feminism with this broad of a brush. Feminism is about equality, some "extreme" feminists hijack it into shit like this, but don't lump it all together.

I am, and we should all be feminists.


Disagree. If anything, we should all be equalists.


You made that word up. Besides, feminism implies striving for equality for women, which is what we're talking about here.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 18:53:55
December 21 2011 18:53 GMT
#12
I guess I don't see feminism as an issue here because I've never encountered it.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 21 2011 18:54 GMT
#13
On December 22 2011 03:42 ranshaked wrote:
Of course they are! Most girls want dolls, while boys want toy guns. Quit trying to break a standard.

That's something I strongly disagree with.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 18:57:31
December 21 2011 18:55 GMT
#14
yeah this is a really really bad way to learn about feminism. like in most things, there are a lot of people with a really low understanding:enthusiasm ratio in the feminism movement


On December 22 2011 03:54 corumjhaelen wrote:
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On December 22 2011 03:42 ranshaked wrote:
Of course they are! Most girls want dolls, while boys want toy guns. Quit trying to break a standard.

That's something I strongly disagree with.

yeah me too. contrived gender roles are a serious problem that limit options and sometimes force people to act in a way that doesn't make them the happiest. it starts with shit like toys assigned for only one gender
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 18:58:27
December 21 2011 18:56 GMT
#15
While Mariah might be reaching, you can't argue that "Baby It's Cold Outside" isn't a song about date rape.

Creepiest Christmas song ever.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 19:01:13
December 21 2011 18:56 GMT
#16
On December 22 2011 03:51 Djzapz wrote:
Some feminists are crazy. Just take it with a grain of salt and laugh - there are legitimate feminists who try to deal with real problems and there are extremists who hate men - sometimes because they've had bad experiences in the past, sometimes because they're crazy...


Pretty much this, and this girl falls in line with the crazy kind.
Okay at the last long she's got a point I gotta admit. (except for that she thinks people will actually be affected by the song, if she hadnt so bluntly pointed it out, I would never have known anything more than its a christmas song).
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
December 21 2011 18:57 GMT
#17
I'm sensing some cognitive biases up ins.
On December 22 2011 03:53 ranshaked wrote:
I guess I don't see feminism as an issue here. It's the same for racism. I don't see it. I think it's because of how I treat everyone equal. I know it happens, but it seems like a non-issue to me o.0

Nice try with the edit.
I like things.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
December 21 2011 18:58 GMT
#18
On December 22 2011 03:49 HackBenjamin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 03:46 Zorkmid wrote:
I wouldn't paint feminism with this broad of a brush. Feminism is about equality, some "extreme" feminists hijack it into shit like this, but don't lump it all together.

I am, and we should all be feminists.


Disagree. If anything, we should all be equalists.


Feminism seeks equality for women. What you're repeating is dishonest propaganda from those that seek to trivialize the astounding amount of male privilege present in the world.

Trust me, as a man it is awesome to be a dude.

On December 22 2011 03:49 intrigue wrote:
yeah, this is like judging gaming based on this article http://gizmodo.com/5833787/my-brief-okcupid-affair-with-a-world-champion-magic-the-gathering-player.


Man, I remember that MtG story. There was a crazy amount of misogyny from the Magic fan base. It was really embarrassing and I'm the sort of guy who got super mad when they changed the card format.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
December 21 2011 19:01 GMT
#19
On December 22 2011 03:48 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 03:46 Zorkmid wrote:
I wouldn't paint feminism with this broad of a brush. Feminism is about equality, some "extreme" feminists hijack it into shit like this, but don't lump it all together.

I am, and we should all be feminists.

Personally, I feel that we've reached equality, and if we continue, then it'll end up with men on the other end of the stick. I can't find a job as a bartender at most places because i'm not a pretty girl for instance. That's not equal!

We're very far from equal dude. Your feeling is definitely not close to actuality, just look up any statistic dealing with this. You can choose, say, pay rate for men and women given the same job title, length of time it takes for women to get promotion vs. men... number of women in upper echelons of government compared to lower levels of government...
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
December 21 2011 19:03 GMT
#20
On December 22 2011 03:55 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
yeah this is a really really bad way to learn about feminism. like in most things, there are a lot of people with a really low understanding:enthusiasm ratio in the feminism movement


Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 03:54 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 22 2011 03:42 ranshaked wrote:
Of course they are! Most girls want dolls, while boys want toy guns. Quit trying to break a standard.

That's something I strongly disagree with.

yeah me too. contrived gender roles are a serious problem that limit options and sometimes force people to act in a way that doesn't make them the happiest. it starts with shit like toys assigned for only one gender

do you think that it's the parents that are forcing their children to play with a certain toy, or that it is the children's choice? I'd love to see an experiment done in which 50 girls and 50 boys were all given the choice of toy to see which would be chosen.

i don't think this is a bad thing...you can give them the choice, but most of the time they were follow that "trope" as the lady states.
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