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tlin
Profile Joined December 2011
25 Posts
December 13 2011 18:40 GMT
#721
I don't even like Naniwa but this episode has really made me lose a lot of respect for the Korean Pro community.
Didn't NesTea mock HuK for taking showmatches too seriously?
Where did that attitude go, somewhere behind the rest of the crowd of two-faced Korean salesmen talking about "honor" when all they really mean is "keeping up appearances"?
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
December 13 2011 18:40 GMT
#722
On December 14 2011 03:38 Prplppleatr wrote:
OO good convo..

It is true that Naniwa does not play to entertain, he is a competitor and plays to win.

That being said it is extremely unfair and downright wrong to say that he was not entertaining. While it may not be your ideal entertainment you need not look any further to see how much controversy/entertainment (as some would call it) it is.

IMO, There are different types of players and each are entertaining in their own right depending on YOUR personality.
The nice guys/in it for the fans: Sheth, White-ra, MC, etc..
The controversial/in it to win it: Idra, Naniwa, etc..
The a$$holes/win no matter what: Combatex, Deezer, etc..
The characters/trolls: Destiny, etc..
+ many others that i am forgetting/too lazy to come up with a description

PS. GOMs reaction, imo, is TERRIBLE, I am extremely disappointed with them and will no longer be supporting.


What did they decide? I wasn't aware there was anything to decide about.
Tahts halo dont worry
xhkz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada34 Posts
December 13 2011 18:41 GMT
#723
Can't wait to see NaNiwa in CODE S next season !!
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
December 13 2011 18:42 GMT
#724
On December 13 2011 23:55 See.Blue wrote:
I love how its only <500 post count-ers who are the ones who connect with Nani's behavior and as such are trying desperately to deflect from/justify it lol

Hardly.
Tahts halo dont worry
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
December 13 2011 18:44 GMT
#725
On December 14 2011 03:42 Thurokiir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 23:55 See.Blue wrote:
I love how its only <500 post count-ers who are the ones who connect with Nani's behavior and as such are trying desperately to deflect from/justify it lol

Hardly.


Prime example is the guy with one post at the top of this page talking shit. Talk about taking things out of context, hahaha.

Like I posted earlier, I see plenty of "LOL LOL LOL's" from the Koreans as well.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:52:04
December 13 2011 18:45 GMT
#726
On December 14 2011 03:21 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:50 mapthesoul wrote:
I was surprised by choya's comment after what he did.. >_>


I am completely with you on that one. I do not really mind other Koreans being judgemental, as SC2 does mean a lot to them and it is their opinion, but Choya is just being obscene and very hypocritcal.

For context: Choya basically paused some games in a GSL online tournament and had the opponent play him in rock-paper-scissors. Because of this, he was banned from the first GSTL.




It was ladder, not GSL.(source). Stop spreading misinformation just to emphasize your point. And Koreans were so harsh that they actually banned him from GSTL first season for these silly games on the ladder (which dont even matter for GSL tournament since Choya was already Code S at that point. Ladder points only matter if you are looking to apply for Code B). So I'm sure you understand how angry they feel for NaNiwa's behavior in a Televised game.

Edit: And MC's tweet is the best of the lot. He clearly summarizes the situation and presents his point of view beautifully.
Envy fan since NTH.
Ledcaveman
Profile Joined March 2011
100 Posts
December 13 2011 18:50 GMT
#727
wow so much butthurt over nothing. the game didn't matter, he was wasting time being there and would be better off practicing.
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
December 13 2011 18:56 GMT
#728
On December 14 2011 03:50 Ledcaveman wrote:
wow so much butthurt over nothing. the game didn't matter, he was wasting time being there and would be better off practicing.


So playing against one of the best zergs in the world is not good practice? Ok.
You play to win
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
December 13 2011 18:57 GMT
#729
Anyway, any tweet from TSL players/coach?
You play to win
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 13 2011 18:58 GMT
#730
On December 14 2011 03:50 Ledcaveman wrote:
wow so much butthurt over nothing. the game didn't matter, he was wasting time being there and would be better off practicing.

lol better off practicing? so playing a televised match against one the best players in the world is worse practice then random laddering? did you even think at all before you typed that?

And as said before MC's post is probably the best description of this entire situation. He sums everything up perfectly really.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
December 13 2011 19:01 GMT
#731
Naniwa needs to understand that if he wants a better reputation among the players and the community, he needs to stop doing shit like this.
blah blah blah...
emecee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States222 Posts
December 13 2011 19:12 GMT
#732
rofl naniwa is such a joke.

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VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
December 13 2011 19:13 GMT
#733
@MKPS2: I wonder what all the gamers who wanted to be in that position thought... I really wanted it too...


I think this qoute from MKP is why this was a real slap in the face to fans and players of the game, tuning it to watch the "clash of the kings" for this year of SC2.

It's sad to see a player have no respect for the fans, the organisations building this scene, and the scene as a whole.

I'm sure he doesn't care.
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
December 13 2011 19:19 GMT
#734
Wow, it seems that a lot of people in this thread have been willing to delude themselves for a LONG TIME that throwing games because they're meaningless in a tournament doesn't happen.

Sadly I have news for you: it happens all the time. 6 pools, 2-gate proxies, marine+scv all ins. Players don't select these strategies because they believe it's their best chance to win. They select them because it's late, they're tired, and the games don't matter - so fuck it let's get this out of the way and go to bed.

Naniwa's only crime was making this so obvious that even Joe Sixpack could see it. And it turns out Joe didn't realise this happens all the time, and Joe is now butthurt and wants blood.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
December 13 2011 19:21 GMT
#735
Look, this is how I see it.
The game had 0 meaning. Let me say that again. The game had ZERO meaning.
If it meant something for nestea but not naniwa and he threw it, then sure, he's at fault.
But this is a bit ridiculous.

We've seen this soooooooooooooooooooooooooo many times, it's just always in the form of a bad all-in instead of probe rush. I don't understand the way people think
SooYoung-Noona!
SnoLys
Profile Joined August 2011
149 Posts
December 13 2011 19:27 GMT
#736
On December 14 2011 04:13 VegaNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
@MKPS2: I wonder what all the gamers who wanted to be in that position thought... I really wanted it too...


I think this qoute from MKP is why this was a real slap in the face to fans and players of the game, tuning it to watch the "clash of the kings" for this year of SC2.

It's sad to see a player have no respect for the fans, the organisations building this scene, and the scene as a whole.

I'm sure he doesn't care.


If a player wanted to be in his position, than that player needed to play harder and better. Naniwa didn't got that place by miracle, he worked for it.
Zenislev
Profile Joined January 2009
United States280 Posts
December 13 2011 19:30 GMT
#737
If it was Idra who worker rushed, everyone would be like "LOL the gracken's mad teehee". But since it's Naniwa, he gets a shitstorm -_-
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ ʀᴀɪsᴇ ᴜʀ ᴅᴏɴɢᴇʀsヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
December 13 2011 19:33 GMT
#738
On December 14 2011 04:30 Zenislev wrote:
If it was Idra who worker rushed, everyone would be like "LOL the gracken's mad teehee". But since it's Naniwa, he gets a shitstorm -_-

Speaking of IdrA,

@idrajit: don't have meaningless matches if you want players to take them seriously

LOLOL the gracken has spoken
Quyn
Profile Joined October 2011
10 Posts
December 13 2011 19:34 GMT
#739
On December 14 2011 04:13 VegaNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
@MKPS2: I wonder what all the gamers who wanted to be in that position thought... I really wanted it too...


I think this qoute from MKP is why this was a real slap in the face to fans and players of the game, tuning it to watch the "clash of the kings" for this year of SC2.

It's sad to see a player have no respect for the fans, the organisations building this scene, and the scene as a whole.

I'm sure he doesn't care.



at first i want to say that i sympathize with MKP, but his tweet doesn't make any sense if not to say it is pretty stupid.
i mean everyone knows that he meant the players to be in the position to play the tournament, however, it is not like nani threw away every game in that fashion. after going 0-3 he lost his temper, which is understandable.
thinking about MKPs post at this point, would there be one pro that would take the 0-3 spot? guess not.
i wanted mkp to be in this as well, but his post was a bit off the topic.

jm2c
Me all in, he drone drone drone, me win. - oGsMC
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 19:41:39
December 13 2011 19:38 GMT
#740
This is why SC2 doesnt deserve nice things like KeSPA. Cant even imagine this shit will happen in Proleague/OSL.
I have followed SC1 for almost 8 years, and I'm shocked seen Naniwa playing with 1 hand, Im even more shocked seen viewers accept what Naniwa did. Some ppl even "loves" what he did. WDF
Remember, Trolling player is not scary, viewers who encourage trolls are.
Do you wanna see more people doing this shit in the future? if not so stop supporting him.

Yes, I know koreans are overreacting, but the overreacting is necessary here, the bashing is also necessary.

No respect to viewers, producers, casters, sponsors and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success. -Nazgul


If I was the tournament organizer, I wont allow this player play in my tournament again, no matter how good he is. - Chinese GSL caster after the game.


Again, im love to see players with personality, with self-confidence... but not a troll with huge ego.

personality != troll
self-confidence != ego

edit. some typo
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