• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:24
CEST 07:24
KST 14:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed18Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me) The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Who will win EWC 2025? Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL Soulkey Muta Micro Map? BW General Discussion [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 556 users

Ladder blog #1 (Road to masters!)

Blogs > IlIlIlIl
Post a Reply
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 09:37 GMT
#1
hihi everyone, I'm going to start recording my ladder sessions per day and maybe get some tips or discussion out of it. I know there's been a lot of these ladder blogs around, and I thought it was a cool idea so why not. I don't think many people read these though unfortunately, but hopefully someone might enjoy this. Anyway for today's ladder!

Start: rank 5 Diamond
End: rank 1 Diamond
11 wins
8 losses
2 games vs. masters players (both zerg, lost both as well )

Overall today was really good. When I started I had ~5 bonus pool since I stopped playing early yesterday. Today was apparently Zerg day on the ladder. out of my 19 matches I think 13 or 14 of them were vs. zerg. TvZ is my least favorite match up by far so it sucks that the ladder is dominated by zergs, especially top diamond/low masters. Today I started out doing a 1 rax expo into double medivac drop (attack is hopefully around 8-9 minutes) but the zergs were almost always prepared for it. After a few games I realized this build wasn't working that well, so I went for my good ol' standby - reactor hellion expand. I experimented with using the hellions to just deny vision for the zerg and then attacking at 8-9 minutes with 3 tanks and a handful of marines. It was imperative to keep the zerg in the dark because if they are able to spot the push coming and can defend with no drone losses they can get a 3rd up relatively uncontested and they have a huge advantage. Usually though, this build worked wonders as zergs only made a few lings for the hellions and instead teched up to mutas, which this build basically hard counters.

The 3 games I played against protoss I won two pretty handily and lost the other to an all in. I just did the usual 2 rax reactor first expand and tried to delay their expo while i got mine up and just macro'd to a victory. I lost one game because of some weird 2 base 6 gate immortal/zealot build that was pretty powerful. I did a poor job scouting though and only had two bunkers up, so there was basically no way to defend it.

TvT is probably my strongest matchup right now overall, and I usually can win very easily. I only played about 2-3 terrans and I won two of them again and lost one. I usually open up with just one banshee to harass while expoing. People can usually defend the banshee pretty well, so I don't get many kills with it but it's good for keeping people in their base while I can set up some bunkers. I go marine/tank in this matchup almost exclusively, and usually the opponent does the same. The real problem I have though is vs. mech because marines melt. It's hard to transition out of marine/tank when you have raxes with reactors and only 1/2 factories, so unless i can tell he's going mech really early I have a lot of trouble with it. I definitely need to scout better because if I'm able to switch into pure bio it's hard for the mech user to stop drops and stuff.


Well, that is basically it for today. Idk when the next blog is going to be because my family and I are going to my grandparents house for thanksgiving, and although I play on a laptop Idk if they have wireless internet or not, plus it's rude to just play SC the whole time. I'm leaving tomorrow and we're supposed to be staying for basically the whole week. It's going to suck having a week without much practice, and I really really hope I won't be set back too far. Thanks for reading this guys!! <3

*
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 19 2011 09:40 GMT
#2
What server are you on?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 09:43:47
November 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#3
Lol, another one of these :D I swear all the achievement goal blog has a reference to "Roads"

Good luck man, write about how your doing mentally and NEVER strain yourself after you come back from thanksgiving from practising too hard.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 09:44 GMT
#4
On November 19 2011 18:40 mizU wrote:
What server are you on?

NA
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#5
On November 19 2011 18:43 RogerX wrote:
Lol, another one of these :D I swear all the achievement goal blog has a reference to "Roads"

Good luck man, write about how your doing mentally and NEVER strain yourself after you come back from thanksgiving from practising too hard.

Yeah lol, it's unoriginal to call it a "road to whatever" but meh idc.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
November 19 2011 09:53 GMT
#6
Remember, division ranking actuly means nothing.


If Player A and Player B have the same MMR, but player A gets placed in a very active division, he could be say #70'th, while player B is in a less competitive division and is 3'rd, again, with the exact same skill level and MMR.


The only way to compare to other players directly is the points system, which doesnt work below masters because leagues use a weird offset system that makes them impossible to compare.


GL on ladder though.


You should be able to beat mech with bio play, im pretty sure you would need some marauders and medivacs though, see MVP vs MMA gsl finals from blizzcon if you can get the vods, MVP went mech pretty much every game
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#7
On November 19 2011 18:53 Cyro wrote:
Remember, division ranking actuly means nothing.


If Player A and Player B have the same MMR, but player A gets placed in a very active division, he could be say #70'th, while player B is in a less competitive division and is 3'rd, again, with the exact same skill level and MMR.


The only way to compare to other players directly is the points system, which doesnt work below masters because leagues use a weird offset system that makes them impossible to compare.


GL on ladder though.


You should be able to beat mech with bio play, im pretty sure you would need some marauders and medivacs though, see MVP vs MMA gsl finals from blizzcon if you can get the vods, MVP went mech pretty much every game

Yeah, my MMR seems to be really low compared to my rank. I'm mostly facing mid-high diamonds and only played like 2 masters players today. Sucks because I need better practice, I can win vs. diamond players easily right now, but i'm still not playing enough masters for some reason.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
November 19 2011 10:30 GMT
#8
On November 19 2011 19:03 IlIlIlIl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 18:53 Cyro wrote:
Remember, division ranking actuly means nothing.


If Player A and Player B have the same MMR, but player A gets placed in a very active division, he could be say #70'th, while player B is in a less competitive division and is 3'rd, again, with the exact same skill level and MMR.


The only way to compare to other players directly is the points system, which doesnt work below masters because leagues use a weird offset system that makes them impossible to compare.


GL on ladder though.


You should be able to beat mech with bio play, im pretty sure you would need some marauders and medivacs though, see MVP vs MMA gsl finals from blizzcon if you can get the vods, MVP went mech pretty much every game

Yeah, my MMR seems to be really low compared to my rank. I'm mostly facing mid-high diamonds and only played like 2 masters players today. Sucks because I need better practice, I can win vs. diamond players easily right now, but i'm still not playing enough masters for some reason.



You shouldnt be comparing MMR and division rank period the end, at masters and GM you can compare MMR directly to the points system (as favored etc works pretty well) and they are linked at masters+ in a comparable fashion, otherwise just focus on >50% winrate
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 260
ProTech81
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36063
PianO 485
Leta 318
Noble 36
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm134
ODPixel8
League of Legends
JimRising 818
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1588
Other Games
summit1g12337
WinterStarcraft422
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2254
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 42
• OhrlRock 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1882
Other Games
• WagamamaTV0
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 36m
Online Event
10h 36m
BSL 2v2 ProLeague S3
12h 36m
Esports World Cup
2 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
3 days
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 ACS Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.