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Ladder blog #1 (Road to masters!)

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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 09:37 GMT
#1
hihi everyone, I'm going to start recording my ladder sessions per day and maybe get some tips or discussion out of it. I know there's been a lot of these ladder blogs around, and I thought it was a cool idea so why not. I don't think many people read these though unfortunately, but hopefully someone might enjoy this. Anyway for today's ladder!

Start: rank 5 Diamond
End: rank 1 Diamond
11 wins
8 losses
2 games vs. masters players (both zerg, lost both as well )

Overall today was really good. When I started I had ~5 bonus pool since I stopped playing early yesterday. Today was apparently Zerg day on the ladder. out of my 19 matches I think 13 or 14 of them were vs. zerg. TvZ is my least favorite match up by far so it sucks that the ladder is dominated by zergs, especially top diamond/low masters. Today I started out doing a 1 rax expo into double medivac drop (attack is hopefully around 8-9 minutes) but the zergs were almost always prepared for it. After a few games I realized this build wasn't working that well, so I went for my good ol' standby - reactor hellion expand. I experimented with using the hellions to just deny vision for the zerg and then attacking at 8-9 minutes with 3 tanks and a handful of marines. It was imperative to keep the zerg in the dark because if they are able to spot the push coming and can defend with no drone losses they can get a 3rd up relatively uncontested and they have a huge advantage. Usually though, this build worked wonders as zergs only made a few lings for the hellions and instead teched up to mutas, which this build basically hard counters.

The 3 games I played against protoss I won two pretty handily and lost the other to an all in. I just did the usual 2 rax reactor first expand and tried to delay their expo while i got mine up and just macro'd to a victory. I lost one game because of some weird 2 base 6 gate immortal/zealot build that was pretty powerful. I did a poor job scouting though and only had two bunkers up, so there was basically no way to defend it.

TvT is probably my strongest matchup right now overall, and I usually can win very easily. I only played about 2-3 terrans and I won two of them again and lost one. I usually open up with just one banshee to harass while expoing. People can usually defend the banshee pretty well, so I don't get many kills with it but it's good for keeping people in their base while I can set up some bunkers. I go marine/tank in this matchup almost exclusively, and usually the opponent does the same. The real problem I have though is vs. mech because marines melt. It's hard to transition out of marine/tank when you have raxes with reactors and only 1/2 factories, so unless i can tell he's going mech really early I have a lot of trouble with it. I definitely need to scout better because if I'm able to switch into pure bio it's hard for the mech user to stop drops and stuff.


Well, that is basically it for today. Idk when the next blog is going to be because my family and I are going to my grandparents house for thanksgiving, and although I play on a laptop Idk if they have wireless internet or not, plus it's rude to just play SC the whole time. I'm leaving tomorrow and we're supposed to be staying for basically the whole week. It's going to suck having a week without much practice, and I really really hope I won't be set back too far. Thanks for reading this guys!! <3

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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 19 2011 09:40 GMT
#2
What server are you on?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 09:43:47
November 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#3
Lol, another one of these :D I swear all the achievement goal blog has a reference to "Roads"

Good luck man, write about how your doing mentally and NEVER strain yourself after you come back from thanksgiving from practising too hard.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 09:44 GMT
#4
On November 19 2011 18:40 mizU wrote:
What server are you on?

NA
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#5
On November 19 2011 18:43 RogerX wrote:
Lol, another one of these :D I swear all the achievement goal blog has a reference to "Roads"

Good luck man, write about how your doing mentally and NEVER strain yourself after you come back from thanksgiving from practising too hard.

Yeah lol, it's unoriginal to call it a "road to whatever" but meh idc.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
November 19 2011 09:53 GMT
#6
Remember, division ranking actuly means nothing.


If Player A and Player B have the same MMR, but player A gets placed in a very active division, he could be say #70'th, while player B is in a less competitive division and is 3'rd, again, with the exact same skill level and MMR.


The only way to compare to other players directly is the points system, which doesnt work below masters because leagues use a weird offset system that makes them impossible to compare.


GL on ladder though.


You should be able to beat mech with bio play, im pretty sure you would need some marauders and medivacs though, see MVP vs MMA gsl finals from blizzcon if you can get the vods, MVP went mech pretty much every game
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#7
On November 19 2011 18:53 Cyro wrote:
Remember, division ranking actuly means nothing.


If Player A and Player B have the same MMR, but player A gets placed in a very active division, he could be say #70'th, while player B is in a less competitive division and is 3'rd, again, with the exact same skill level and MMR.


The only way to compare to other players directly is the points system, which doesnt work below masters because leagues use a weird offset system that makes them impossible to compare.


GL on ladder though.


You should be able to beat mech with bio play, im pretty sure you would need some marauders and medivacs though, see MVP vs MMA gsl finals from blizzcon if you can get the vods, MVP went mech pretty much every game

Yeah, my MMR seems to be really low compared to my rank. I'm mostly facing mid-high diamonds and only played like 2 masters players today. Sucks because I need better practice, I can win vs. diamond players easily right now, but i'm still not playing enough masters for some reason.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
November 19 2011 10:30 GMT
#8
On November 19 2011 19:03 IlIlIlIl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 18:53 Cyro wrote:
Remember, division ranking actuly means nothing.


If Player A and Player B have the same MMR, but player A gets placed in a very active division, he could be say #70'th, while player B is in a less competitive division and is 3'rd, again, with the exact same skill level and MMR.


The only way to compare to other players directly is the points system, which doesnt work below masters because leagues use a weird offset system that makes them impossible to compare.


GL on ladder though.


You should be able to beat mech with bio play, im pretty sure you would need some marauders and medivacs though, see MVP vs MMA gsl finals from blizzcon if you can get the vods, MVP went mech pretty much every game

Yeah, my MMR seems to be really low compared to my rank. I'm mostly facing mid-high diamonds and only played like 2 masters players today. Sucks because I need better practice, I can win vs. diamond players easily right now, but i'm still not playing enough masters for some reason.



You shouldnt be comparing MMR and division rank period the end, at masters and GM you can compare MMR directly to the points system (as favored etc works pretty well) and they are linked at masters+ in a comparable fashion, otherwise just focus on >50% winrate
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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