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sharky246
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On November 04 2011 19:54 frodoguy wrote: And it got me thinking, is there actually a country full of minorities where racism (or any other forms of discrimination) doesn't exist? Canada? i have my doubts. America? LOL. Perhaps the imaginary future Earth from Star Trek? | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
 Trying to make light of it but it really is kind of sad =/ | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:17 OmniEulogy wrote: I tried to think about this really hard but I couldn't name a single country. Maybe the Isle of Man? lol It's a real place and I'm sure it has a minority on it... like 1 person. Maybe not. Trying to make light of it but it really is kind of sad =/NOPE lol not even CLOSE. You have Irish, Welsh Scottish and Brits ALL hating each other and people from the isle hating everyone | ||
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Leftwing
Canada229 Posts
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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jimbob615
Uruguay455 Posts
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Rokusha
United States207 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:17 OmniEulogy wrote: I tried to think about this really hard but I couldn't name a single country. Maybe the Isle of Man? lol It's a real place and I'm sure it has a minority on it... like 1 person. Maybe not. Trying to make light of it but it really is kind of sad =/Puerto Rico is pretty good on non racial discrimination, but I haven't lived there in 11 years so maybe it has changed. Edit: But I think racism exists in some form everywhere no matter what. | ||
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rupert
182 Posts
On November 04 2011 19:54 frodoguy wrote: [...] And it got me thinking, is there actually a country full of minorities where racism (or any other forms of discrimination) doesn't exist? Canada? i have my doubts. America? LOL. [...] You can't single out something as big as a country. There will be racism, yes even in Canada, and it will vary greatly from a city to another one, from a neighborhood to another one. Different origins often means different cultures with different values which more often then not means disagreements, see where I'm going. | ||
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rupert
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
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elt
Thailand1092 Posts
Of course, then those people are labelled 'fake asian (banana)', 'traitors' or conversely have 'yellow fever'. (I know I'm massively generalising). I think it has to start at the grass-roots level and with the young, and they've got to be actively encouraged. I don't think that keeping 'homeland' identity and adopting the culture of a new place especially growing up is mutually exclusive, but it's hard to strike a good balance. That said, I don't feel a shred of sympathy for those that travel abroad for University and avoid using the native language of that country as much as possible. That's just asking to be ostracised and creating a bad image for a particular cultural group. [For background I'm Thai, grew up in Malaysia (in an international school) and I'm doing University in Australia] | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
Anyways, basically expect racism as the norm rather than the exception | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
Now I've heard everything. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
SNORT. | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:34 koreasilver wrote: LOL you're the guy that made that retarded "this girl isn't a real Korean" blog. SNORT. Ahh that explains everything.. Was getting a really familiar vibe I couldn't put my hand on, esp with the "fake asian" part haha. On topic: From everything I've seen/heard: pretty sure that discrimination /subcategorizing happens everywhere. Might be differences in attitudes though, such as how much people find it offensive or acceptable. | ||
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Thaniri
1264 Posts
At all. | ||
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
On November 04 2011 21:35 Probe1 wrote: NOPE lol not even CLOSE. You have Irish, Welsh Scottish and Brits ALL hating each other and people from the isle hating everyone You are fully aware the Wales and Scotland are a part of Britain right? Britain: Wales, Scotland, England United Kingdom: Wales, Scotland, England, Northern Island Great Britain: All of the above, plus Republic of Ireland. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:49 Thaniri wrote: canada. Seriously, there is no racism. At all. This is so false that it isn't even funny. You don't even have to go into a sociological study for this. My own personal experiences alone are enough to attest. If you even read the paper or hear the news you'll know that there are racist activities here and there. There is even a Canada subforum on Stormfront. That being said, Canada is much better than America, Korea, Japan, China, Australia, the UK, France, and many many other countries. Canada is one of the best at this, but there is still a quite noticeable racist undertone here as well. | ||
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
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koreasilver
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On November 05 2011 03:34 koreasilver wrote: Even being white wouldn't filter out the racism to your eyes and ears when you hear things like Jewish homes and graveyards being vandalized with swastikas. If you mean Swastikas as in nazis, well ur in the wrong century. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:34 koreasilver wrote: LOL you're the guy that made that retarded "this girl isn't a real Korean" blog. SNORT. LOL so that's why his name was so familiar. Wassup koreasilver. I had the same reaction to the fake asian thing as to the fake Korean. Just... "What..?" I also don't like how you categorized the fake asians and fobs. I mean I understand concept of a Chinese person trying to pretend to be Korean by eating kim chi exclsively with raw eggs and uttering out broken Korean, or a white person trying to pass off his wannabe Korean with the fact that he took classes for it to satisfy his superiority complex in the wonderful field of language. But where are the 2nd generation asians that were born into the country in your systematic diagram? It's quite rude to list them as "The Rest" category. | ||
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The_LiNk
Canada863 Posts
Now "Fake Asians" is a term that's used for varying degrees of ABC and CBCness. I'm going to use Asian because that's what most people I know that know call me. For example: "Wow Teh_LiNk, you're so Asian. I thought you'd be more White." If you were Fob, then they'd just say "Wow Teh_LiNk, you're so Fob." Some Asians can switch between being bleached and fob. Where as Fobs are usually only into music, fashion, etc, from where they were originally from, a lot of Asians are into other Asian cultures, like a Chinese person is into Korean music and food. Personally, I'm an Asian that's on the extreme side. Fobs don't dislike me, I'm friends with a lot of true Chinese (mainlander and Hong Kong)fobs. They find me cute for some odd reason (especially the girls  ). I speak a very childish Cantonese because I left Hong Kong when I was very young and they think my use of slang that kids use is hilariously cute. I also speak Chinese with English words sprinkled in (lack of vocabulary) which they envy and find cute and hilarious (ho duk yi)Korean fobs though, I have a sneaking suspicion that they think I'm a try hard or something. The Korean Wave got me and I got into Korean stuff too. I have a few Korean friends and they think it's all cool and all that that I like Korean stuff. But they're not fobs, they're like me, really Asian. | ||
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Thaniri
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yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FjDQc.jpg) My attempt at categorizing Koreans from my experience in Canada.. Mmm. I don't completely disagree with the OP, but he's describing everything from the view of the FOBs, which is pretty unfair. The "fake Asians" that the OP describes are those that go through the worst identity conflicts, as they want to retain ties with their mother culture despite having spent most of their life overseas. I don't think that having been born overseas makes you any less Korean; it's only when some flaunt their Korean status(because being Asian is suddenly so cool these days) that they start to irritate me. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 05 2011 10:26 frodoguy wrote: If you mean Swastikas as in nazis, well ur in the wrong century. wat Wait, so not only are you attempting to speak about Asians when you're not Asian, now you're trying to say that the things that happen in Canada within the past couple of years never actually happened... when you're over in Australia being a weeaboo. Okay. Carry on then. | ||
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discodancer
United States280 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On November 05 2011 12:02 The_LiNk wrote: Frodoguy, are you Asian? From past blogs and this is sounds like you're not. You found only 2 of the broad categories and there's a deeper classification. For example, aside from Fobs and Fake Asians, there's also Bleached. Those are the Asians that are so disconnected from their heritage (usually born in North America) that their practically white. Within Fobs, for Chinese at least, there's Mainlander, Hong Kong, and Taiwanese. Hong Kong be the coolest yo, we can cruise with everyone cuz we speak Cantonese and Mandarin and Mainlanders (especially from the south) and Taiwanese love TVB. Within Mainlander it breaks down into North and South (it's not some sort of rivalry and it's not exclusive groups, they just like to identify what cities and towns they come from). Now "Fake Asians" is a term that's used for varying degrees of ABC and CBCness. I'm going to use Asian because that's what most people I know that know call me. For example: "Wow Teh_LiNk, you're so Asian. I thought you'd be more White." If you were Fob, then they'd just say "Wow Teh_LiNk, you're so Fob." Some Asians can switch between being bleached and fob. Where as Fobs are usually only into music, fashion, etc, from where they were originally from, a lot of Asians are into other Asian cultures, like a Chinese person is into Korean music and food. Personally, I'm an Asian that's on the extreme side. Fobs don't dislike me, I'm friends with a lot of true Chinese (mainlander and Hong Kong)fobs. They find me cute for some odd reason (especially the girls ). I speak a very childish Cantonese because I left Hong Kong when I was very young and they think my use of slang that kids use is hilariously cute. I also speak Chinese with English words sprinkled in (lack of vocabulary) which they envy and find cute and hilarious (ho duk yi)Korean fobs though, I have a sneaking suspicion that they think I'm a try har d or something. The Korean Wave got me and I got into Korean stuff too. I have a few Korean friends and they think it's all cool and all that that I like Korean stuff. But they're not fobs, they're like me, really Asian. I would like to keep my nationality a secret so as to not face discrimination seeing as you see alot of racism on the net. And when i say fake asians, i mean second generation asians but thats abit too long so i call them fake for simplicity. | ||
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Sunjino
United States37 Posts
there is no such thing as a F.O.B the only ppl who are consider that are foreigner who migrated to where anyone is so i guess everyone is a fake asian >> i being an asian in highschool with a monarchy of white ppl on top and asians being no where in site, i still understand the generation we have today of "asian americans" Honestly asian americans need to still remember culture witch is getting slimmer and slimmer :/ | ||
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yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
On November 05 2011 16:03 frodoguy wrote: I would like to keep my nationality a secret so as to not face discrimination seeing as you see alot of racism on the net. And when i say fake asians, i mean second generation asians but thats abit too long so i call them fake for simplicity. And you don't see anything wrong with shortening "second generation asians" into "fake asians"? | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
Asians are status oriented and that is pretty much all there is to it. For the banana men, if you are not born there then the length of your stay in the country determines your worth to them, unless of course the fob in question have some secret weapon in their sleeve like have good looks, really rich or is a genius in some form or other. fobs on the other hand carry on don't give a single fuck to all this. lol me <=== fob | ||
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