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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 31 2011 21:21 GMT
#1
ok, i just thought of this few days ago when i heard about HoTS.

The reaper, get it? REAPER! They giving it regen after battle like Protoss shield.

So why dont you just make it a Protoss unit?

Current state of Reaper in WoL: TvZ/P: useless map control early game, not really significant usage.
TvT: counter early hellions which ultimately make bio > mech.

Clearly removing Reaper from Terran army wont have any major impact in TvP and TvZ mean while it will increase mech usage in TvT a lot.

So how do we give it to protoss with out breaking any matchup?
Suggestion:
Came from gateway(non-wrap only)
requires cybercore
stat could be modified.

Explanation:
Well early game extra scouting information is great for both PvP and PvT. The stat could be modified for PvZ so it wont force roaches too much. Forcing this unit to be produced from a gateway but wrap gate will give an interesting usage in changing wrapgate into gateway :D.
The only problem with this is that its too easy to gain highground vision to wrap in as Protoss: HoTS u cant wrap in to high ground -> fixed :D

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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
October 31 2011 21:24 GMT
#2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=277452
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MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 21:35:37
October 31 2011 21:27 GMT
#3
Protoss already have map control with observers(PvT/2 gate robo expand ftw,PvP 3 gate robo).More scouting information for protoss?hell no.
Feel like fitting better for zerg in HotS,since overlords slow as hell.Infested Reaper?!?!
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 21:36:52
October 31 2011 21:35 GMT
#4
and remove the freaking sentry ?

@post above me: 50 energy for infested reaper from queen that last 120 secs xD
dbosworld
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States317 Posts
October 31 2011 21:42 GMT
#5
I think the reason they don't give it to the protoss is because its not a protoss unit.

They have better units with better purposes that are way better than the reaper. Observer, the asldjflsdjfaslfasdjfasldj oracle that is annoying and faster than the reaper.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 31 2011 21:46 GMT
#6
On November 01 2011 06:27 cklrkzk wrote:
Protoss already have map control with observers(PvT/2 gate robo expand ftw,PvP 3 gate robo).More scouting information for protoss?hell no.
Feel like fitting better for zerg in HotS,since overlords slow as hell.Infested Reaper?!?!

I think of that change less as more scouting info and more that, if you give it more protoss-like stats (just slightly slower but more powerful), it would be the dedicated harass unit that all P players have been crying for.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10397 Posts
October 31 2011 22:16 GMT
#7
On November 01 2011 06:46 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 06:27 cklrkzk wrote:
Protoss already have map control with observers(PvT/2 gate robo expand ftw,PvP 3 gate robo).More scouting information for protoss?hell no.
Feel like fitting better for zerg in HotS,since overlords slow as hell.Infested Reaper?!?!

I think of that change less as more scouting info and more that, if you give it more protoss-like stats (just slightly slower but more powerful), it would be the dedicated harass unit that all P players have been crying for.

If you seriously want harass, can't you just get a warp prism, load up with 4 zealots, warp in X amount more like in a non-vision area, and then harass?

No don't like idea. Obs already is amazing (cloak + detection). You just give toss more vision.
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