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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 21 2011 18:12 GMT
#1
Warning: About U.S. politics

Have you noticed that the Democrats are bragging that they have a President that bombed a country with oil and killed their dictator so that "democracy" could take hold, and did it all without congressional approval? Ever notice how the Republicans are screaming bloody murder about the public debt when under Bush we doubled the debt without anyone uttering a word?

It happens way too often in politics that people stand behind their party instead of their principles. Every time you think about politics you should be asking yourself "would I be thinking the same way if a party I don't subscribe to were doing this?"

Some of you may have heard that Hank Williams' intro was pulled from Monday Night Football by ESPN after he compared Obama to Hitler. A lot of Democrats cheered at this but there were also a lot of Democrats complaining when the same thing happened to the Dixie Chicks for saying something bad about Bush. I'm a long-time fan of Real Time with Bill Maher and I remember when he had the Dixie Chicks on several years ago and made a big deal about free speech. One of the reasons I like Bill Maher is he is consistent, which is why he defended Hank Williams a couple weeks ago on his show:



I can proudly boast that I am also consistent because I believe in people's rights to boycott the Dixie Chicks and to boycott Hank Williams, Lol. Country singers need to learn we don't care what they think about politics!

P.S. nothing shows the hilarity of each party's hypocrisy better than this clip by the Daily Show: http://gawker.com/5494177/jon-stewart-spanks-congress-for-its-sex-scandal-hypocrisy I'm not sure but it might only be watchable in the U.S.

Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 21 2011 18:18 GMT
#2
Bill Maher is really consistent. He's offensive, but I like the fact that he doesn't flip flop and stands firm at times when he really wants to express an opinion.

Good find!
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 18:21:59
October 21 2011 18:20 GMT
#3
On October 22 2011 03:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Bill Maher is really consistent. He's offensive, but I like the fact that he doesn't flip flop and stands firm at times when he really wants to express an opinion.

Good find!


He is someone to argue with if you don't share his opinions, and he unites those of us who share his opinions. He is only offensive to people who are afraid that he is right.

I love his show, it's a bit of a saturday morning on-demand ritual for me. The honesty that comes through in the panel portion of his show is often terrifying.
wDDelete
Profile Joined March 2011
103 Posts
October 21 2011 18:21 GMT
#4
I like real time but I think this case is special. Bill has a certain bias when it comes to getting fired for saying something stupid on tv.
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
October 21 2011 18:23 GMT
#5
I love bill maher.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 21 2011 18:33 GMT
#6
On October 22 2011 03:21 wDDelete wrote:
I like real time but I think this case is special. Bill has a certain bias when it comes to getting fired for saying something stupid on tv.

Politically Incorrect had some fun guests and discussions.

I didn't think it was such a terrible thing to say.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 21 2011 18:33 GMT
#7
I don't always agree with Bill, but the show is good and yes, he is consistent.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 21 2011 18:36 GMT
#8
I love Bill Maher, RT is one of the last TV shows that I still care about at this point in time.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 21 2011 18:38 GMT
#9
On October 22 2011 03:33 Roe wrote:
I didn't think it was such a terrible thing to say.


It wasn't. But things were very different than they are now in the days immediately following 9/11.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
October 21 2011 18:40 GMT
#10
On October 22 2011 03:20 Zorkmid wrote:
I love his show, it's a bit of a saturday morning on-demand ritual for me. The honesty that comes through in the panel portion of his show is often terrifying.

Agreed, downloading & watching Real Time with Bill Maher is a Saturday must for me.
I certainly don't agree with all of his positions (just many of them :p), but his guests & the panel are really what makes the show. Oh and New Rules of course!
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 21 2011 18:43 GMT
#11
I found it interested how last week (maybe 2 weeks ago), he was talking about killing his enemies. He described it as something he's cool with (because he isn't Christian), but can't figure out why so many Christians are for capital punishment etc. when Jesus was such a pacifist.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 21 2011 19:03 GMT
#12
On October 22 2011 03:43 Zorkmid wrote:
I found it interested how last week (maybe 2 weeks ago), he was talking about killing his enemies. He described it as something he's cool with (because he isn't Christian), but can't figure out why so many Christians are for capital punishment etc. when Jesus was such a pacifist.


The pastor he was interviewing had a pretty good answer though about there being a difference between the individual and government. For example, Jesus says give to the poor. He doesn't say take from the rich and give to the poor. Some of the most charitable people are right-wing churchgoers, which is why we have phrases like "southern hospitality." Bill Maher relies a little too heavily on this supposed hypocrisy but if you look at a list of the most charitable U.S. states, all of the top ones are red states because their citizens donate so much of their money and time through their church. I still hate religion though.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#13
On October 22 2011 04:03 BlackJack wrote:
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On October 22 2011 03:43 Zorkmid wrote:
I found it interested how last week (maybe 2 weeks ago), he was talking about killing his enemies. He described it as something he's cool with (because he isn't Christian), but can't figure out why so many Christians are for capital punishment etc. when Jesus was such a pacifist.


The pastor he was interviewing had a pretty good answer though about there being a difference between the individual and government. For example, Jesus says give to the poor. He doesn't say take from the rich and give to the poor. Some of the most charitable people are right-wing churchgoers, which is why we have phrases like "southern hospitality." Bill Maher relies a little too heavily on this supposed hypocrisy but if you look at a list of the most charitable U.S. states, all of the top ones are red states because their citizens donate so much of their money and time through their church. I still hate religion though.

don't those same churchgoers just donate to the church which then gives it to the pastor? I know megachurches arent that common (or are they?) but they in particular can't be written off as cheritable when you're being brainwashed by nothing more than a huckster or charlatan.
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
October 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#14
On October 22 2011 04:17 Roe wrote:
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On October 22 2011 04:03 BlackJack wrote:
On October 22 2011 03:43 Zorkmid wrote:
I found it interested how last week (maybe 2 weeks ago), he was talking about killing his enemies. He described it as something he's cool with (because he isn't Christian), but can't figure out why so many Christians are for capital punishment etc. when Jesus was such a pacifist.


The pastor he was interviewing had a pretty good answer though about there being a difference between the individual and government. For example, Jesus says give to the poor. He doesn't say take from the rich and give to the poor. Some of the most charitable people are right-wing churchgoers, which is why we have phrases like "southern hospitality." Bill Maher relies a little too heavily on this supposed hypocrisy but if you look at a list of the most charitable U.S. states, all of the top ones are red states because their citizens donate so much of their money and time through their church. I still hate religion though.

don't those same churchgoers just donate to the church which then gives it to the pastor? I know megachurches arent that common (or are they?) but they in particular can't be written off as cheritable when you're being brainwashed by nothing more than a huckster or charlatan.

I'm an atheist so i don't go to church. But the churches around my area do a lot of charity work around here. They also seem to do it a whole lot better than the government.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 21 2011 19:53 GMT
#15
On October 22 2011 04:17 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 04:03 BlackJack wrote:
On October 22 2011 03:43 Zorkmid wrote:
I found it interested how last week (maybe 2 weeks ago), he was talking about killing his enemies. He described it as something he's cool with (because he isn't Christian), but can't figure out why so many Christians are for capital punishment etc. when Jesus was such a pacifist.


The pastor he was interviewing had a pretty good answer though about there being a difference between the individual and government. For example, Jesus says give to the poor. He doesn't say take from the rich and give to the poor. Some of the most charitable people are right-wing churchgoers, which is why we have phrases like "southern hospitality." Bill Maher relies a little too heavily on this supposed hypocrisy but if you look at a list of the most charitable U.S. states, all of the top ones are red states because their citizens donate so much of their money and time through their church. I still hate religion though.

don't those same churchgoers just donate to the church which then gives it to the pastor? I know megachurches arent that common (or are they?) but they in particular can't be written off as cheritable when you're being brainwashed by nothing more than a huckster or charlatan.


Yeah that's true, but almost every non-profit takes money off the top to pay the people running the organization. I'd bet nobody takes more off the top than the federal government. I think there is enough gray area that neither side should be calling the other non-compassionate or non-Christlike.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 21 2011 19:56 GMT
#16
I fucking hate our politicians.

Hank Williams can say whatever he wants. It's very hard to take anyone serious that compares someone to Hitler. Whatever.

Also isn't Hank Williams like 140 years old by now?
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 21 2011 19:58 GMT
#17
Hank Williams Jr.* I should have aid
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8887 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:32:54
October 21 2011 20:28 GMT
#18
Did he even compare Obama to Hitler? I thought his quote was something about comparing Obama golfing with Boehner to Netanyahu pairing up with Hitler. Basically saying that two people who should be mortal enemies or whatever have no business palling around on the links.

And then people took the Hitler part out of context and got all worked up thinking it was a direct comparison between Obama and Hitler - which it really wasn't. He didn't say "Obama is Hitler."

I mean, Hank Williams Jr. probably has less sense than a sack of shit but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and see nothing wrong with what he said. People just like to get worked up whenever the H-bomb is dropped. It's like saying Lord Voldemort.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 21 2011 20:39 GMT
#19
Bill Maher "doesn't believe in germ theory" so everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt, even though he's right a lot of the time
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 21 2011 20:43 GMT
#20
On October 22 2011 05:39 Djzapz wrote:
Bill Maher "doesn't believe in germ theory" so everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt, even though he's right a lot of the time


No. This is wrong. He doesn't believe in vaccination as the best way to treat germs, he isn't ignorant of germ theory.
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