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Mutalisk and Mailoc similar looks

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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
October 12 2011 14:03 GMT
#1
There is this Creature from Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2. The game was released October 9, 1997, Starcraft came 31. March 1998.
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The Mailoc from starwars.wikia.com

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Mutalisk from Liquipedia

here you can see them in action at 9:00:



I just thought they look similar and wanted to share this. I was surprised by the overall similar half moon form and the two teeth at the bottom, whereas the wings are pretty different.

****
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 14:07:02
October 12 2011 14:06 GMT
#2
I looked at that Mailoc pic, and the treebark behind it, and it totally looked like it was real.

Good find. Lawsuit? George Lucas?
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
October 12 2011 14:08 GMT
#3
Yeah but Warhammer 40k rips off all this stuff so it's fine.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 14:12:31
October 12 2011 14:11 GMT
#4
On October 12 2011 23:08 Lexpar wrote:
Yeah but Warhammer 40k rips off all this stuff so it's fine.


You're entirely trolling, I hope? 40k in Tabletop minis has been around WAY longer. Starcraft rips off 40k pretty hard. I've heard rumors to the effect of Starcraft originally being a 40k game, but Blizzard and GW had a falling out, so it turned into it's own franchise. No idea on the truth of this.

40k's first incarnation came out in '87.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 12 2011 14:13 GMT
#5
On October 12 2011 23:11 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 23:08 Lexpar wrote:
Yeah but Warhammer 40k rips off all this stuff so it's fine.


You're entirely trolling, I hope? 40k in Tabletop minis has been around WAY longer. Starcraft rips off 40k pretty hard. I've heard rumors to the effect of Starcraft originally being a 40k game, but Blizzard and GW had a falling out, so it turned into it's own franchise. No idea on the truth of this.

40k's first incarnation came out in '87.


This has been another gaming history lesson, brought to you by JingleHell, Nethack advocate.
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 14:45:24
October 12 2011 14:41 GMT
#6
On October 12 2011 23:06 Zorkmid wrote:
I looked at that Mailoc pic, and the treebark behind it, and it totally looked like it was real.

Good find. Lawsuit? George Lucas?

^^ I don't think so. The games were released so close after each other that there would have been no time to steal anything important like a multiplayer unit. I think I remember seeing the Mutalisk in a Alpha picture, but I am not sure. No stealing going on, just a coincidence, imo.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 15:07:32
October 12 2011 15:04 GMT
#7
[image loading]

Bottom left, Starcraft Alpha mutalisk. gg

Check out the spore-colony in Beta

[image loading]
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 15:08:28
October 12 2011 15:06 GMT
#8
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2011 00:04 mTw|NarutO wrote:
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...


I was just about to post this Naruto. ^^

from http://sclegacy.com. There is no third dimension yet.

The Beta was released at the very end of 1997 (Jedi Knight was out since October) according to the same site, where the Muta looks like the one we know (or similar. The picture from this article isn't perfect). The Muta shape could very well be inspired by this Star Wars creature.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
October 12 2011 15:21 GMT
#9
I'm sure the concept art of the Mutalisk was drawn up prior to that alpha build. Probably just a coincidence.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 16:04:23
October 12 2011 16:03 GMT
#10
On October 12 2011 23:06 Zorkmid wrote:
I looked at that Mailoc pic, and the treebark behind it, and it totally looked like it was real.

Good find. Lawsuit? George Lucas?


Yeah, I looked at it and thought it was a fucked up dragonfly.

On October 13 2011 00:04 mTw|NarutO wrote:
[image loading]

Bottom left, Starcraft Alpha mutalisk. gg



oh wow, that's cool
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
eRoN_
Profile Joined May 2010
91 Posts
October 12 2011 16:05 GMT
#11
On October 12 2011 23:11 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 23:08 Lexpar wrote:
Yeah but Warhammer 40k rips off all this stuff so it's fine.


You're entirely trolling, I hope? 40k in Tabletop minis has been around WAY longer. Starcraft rips off 40k pretty hard. I've heard rumors to the effect of Starcraft originally being a 40k game, but Blizzard and GW had a falling out, so it turned into it's own franchise. No idea on the truth of this.

40k's first incarnation came out in '87.


I think it was warcraft 1 that they originally wanted to do with GW but didn't work out. I'm not totally sure either though...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#12
On October 13 2011 01:05 eRoN_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 23:11 JingleHell wrote:
On October 12 2011 23:08 Lexpar wrote:
Yeah but Warhammer 40k rips off all this stuff so it's fine.


You're entirely trolling, I hope? 40k in Tabletop minis has been around WAY longer. Starcraft rips off 40k pretty hard. I've heard rumors to the effect of Starcraft originally being a 40k game, but Blizzard and GW had a falling out, so it turned into it's own franchise. No idea on the truth of this.

40k's first incarnation came out in '87.


I think it was warcraft 1 that they originally wanted to do with GW but didn't work out. I'm not totally sure either though...


This may well be correct.

Even if that's the specifics of the case though, considering that, you'd be hard-pressed to say 40k didn't also help inspire SC2. Protoss=Eldar, Terran=Space Marines-ish, and Zerg is a pretty blatant Tyranid hive.

And either way, GW would have been doing a damned impressive job to rip off SC2 for 40k.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
October 12 2011 17:03 GMT
#13
On October 13 2011 01:21 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 01:05 eRoN_ wrote:
On October 12 2011 23:11 JingleHell wrote:
On October 12 2011 23:08 Lexpar wrote:
Yeah but Warhammer 40k rips off all this stuff so it's fine.


You're entirely trolling, I hope? 40k in Tabletop minis has been around WAY longer. Starcraft rips off 40k pretty hard. I've heard rumors to the effect of Starcraft originally being a 40k game, but Blizzard and GW had a falling out, so it turned into it's own franchise. No idea on the truth of this.

40k's first incarnation came out in '87.


I think it was warcraft 1 that they originally wanted to do with GW but didn't work out. I'm not totally sure either though...


This may well be correct.

Even if that's the specifics of the case though, considering that, you'd be hard-pressed to say 40k didn't also help inspire SC2. Protoss=Eldar, Terran=Space Marines-ish, and Zerg is a pretty blatant Tyranid hive.

And either way, GW would have been doing a damned impressive job to rip off SC2 for 40k.

I often see this but I disagree with "Protoss=Eldar", when I first played the demo of Starcraft in '98 with just Terran and Zerg I remember thinking then it was very like 40k, but when I got the full game I never thought Protoss were like Eldar. The only real similarity is they're both technologically advanced but none of the units are similar and the lore is quite different. The Eldar initially were 'space elves' in the same way you had Squats for Dwarves and Orks for Orcs. Protoss were more based on the standard sci-fi green men with big heads, no mouths and psionic powers.

Also when Starcraft was conceived the Eldar were different to how they are now, there were no Dark Eldar, they kind of fitted under the Eldar army, so they were a bit more piratey than they are now (like in Rogue Trader). If anything in 40k Protoss are more like the Tau but they were released after Starcraft. Protoss are almost certainly mildly influenced by Eldar, in the same way they're influenced by a lot of alien races in sci-fi, but I definitely don't think they're based on them.


Back on topic, I never noticed the resemblance between the Mailoc and Mutalisk before now even though I played both games around the same time, I used hate those Mailocs
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
FaiL_SaFe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States104 Posts
October 12 2011 17:08 GMT
#14
On October 13 2011 01:05 eRoN_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 23:11 JingleHell wrote:
On October 12 2011 23:08 Lexpar wrote:
Yeah but Warhammer 40k rips off all this stuff so it's fine.


You're entirely trolling, I hope? 40k in Tabletop minis has been around WAY longer. Starcraft rips off 40k pretty hard. I've heard rumors to the effect of Starcraft originally being a 40k game, but Blizzard and GW had a falling out, so it turned into it's own franchise. No idea on the truth of this.

40k's first incarnation came out in '87.


I think it was warcraft 1 that they originally wanted to do with GW but didn't work out. I'm not totally sure either though...


I'm almost 100% sure that it was Warcraft that was supposed to be a Games Workshop IP game. If you look at the back story for the Warcraft universe it bears some uncanny similarities to the universe of Warhammer Fantasy.

All modern Fantasy and Science Fiction borrow from each other. Starcraft borrows heavily from the 40k universe which in turn borrows from things like Isaac Asimov and Dune.

Iggnite
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
October 12 2011 19:46 GMT
#15
Solid game regardless
All about the big plays
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 12 2011 21:40 GMT
#16
Cool find! Yeah no one can deny that they look amazingly similar.
On October 13 2011 00:04 mTw|NarutO wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

Bottom left, Starcraft Alpha mutalisk. gg

Check out the spore-colony in Beta

[image loading]


I've been wondering this for a while.. is there anywhere where to download a version of an alpha build of the original starcraft? I did a small search but came up with nothing.. Is it locked in blizzard's attic forever? I would love to just mess around with it for fun.. (:
Jaedong.
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