• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:45
CEST 13:45
KST 20:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes91BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion Soulkey on ASL S20 BW General Discussion ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1947 users

Urgot is apparently OP :p - Page 2

Blogs > BordZ
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
October 03 2011 16:00 GMT
#21
LoL is pretty balanced.

There are always some stronger champions than others but you can ban 4. Of course you have to play your pick/ban game right but if you do so there is no problems.

People who cry IMBA are probably lvl 19 with no experience in ranked. From 1300+ elo you usually have no problems playing a fair game.
Brood War is forever
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 03 2011 16:05 GMT
#22
Basically any champ can be seen as OP when they get fed and are way ahead in lvls/gold then everyone else. Silly people. Had my 1st intentional feeder player in a long time in ranked today. Sucked :\
Never Knows Best.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 03 2011 16:26 GMT
#23
nevar play pogeman if u suk :d

hope this helps
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 03 2011 16:33 GMT
#24
On October 04 2011 01:26 prplhz wrote:
nevar play pogeman if u suk :d

hope this helps

u gotta skate
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:47:12
October 03 2011 16:45 GMT
#25
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.
Moonie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway33 Posts
October 03 2011 17:14 GMT
#26
On October 03 2011 23:34 GigaFlop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 23:25 FreshandLegit wrote:
Not gonna lie I actually thought it was pokemans for the first paragraph or so, after that I was just confused and stopped reading = / Glad 4th poster was able to clarify though

I thought it was Magic: The Gathering for a while. Up until about the point where he mentions feeding/creeps/towers etc


Ahaha, so did I. :D
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
October 03 2011 17:36 GMT
#27
Urgot isnt op. Annie can shit on Urgot all day with all her AP
Team[AoV]
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
October 03 2011 18:17 GMT
#28
wtf are you guys rambling about. this is clearly about pokemon
Graphicscolosi suck
ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
October 03 2011 18:24 GMT
#29
Cool story bro.

User was warned for this post
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13990 Posts
October 03 2011 18:27 GMT
#30
try cho gath with a gunblade speed boots and a mericle hes sustainable as all hell and then you can build him either full on ap nomnom or tanky.

I'm working on a hybrid tanky cho thats working wonders in normal's.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13990 Posts
October 03 2011 18:29 GMT
#31
On October 04 2011 01:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.


the ban pick phase makes it balanced. you pick the people you play with one at a time and saying the 2 people you don't want in the game and the other team does the same. picking shitty hero comps isn't riots problem.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
October 03 2011 18:36 GMT
#32
Urgot is very good. I played 5 games with him in the free week in ranked. I currently have an average of 11 kills 1-2 death and 11 assists with 100% winrate. You can outlane pretty much all ad carries at bot lane except cait(that range and trap is just too strong).


League has a few very strong heroes like GP, fiddlestick(imo strongest champion until high elo since low elo people don't ward as much and just die to his ult+cc), and amumu. They are much stronger than most other heroes. But bans can often take care of these heroes.

Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 03 2011 18:41 GMT
#33
On October 04 2011 01:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.


I think you are the one that is kidding...SC2 balance is horrid still. Broodwar needed years to be balanced and SC2 is no different, its not even close yet.
Brees on in
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
October 03 2011 18:49 GMT
#34
On October 04 2011 03:36 xbankx wrote:
Urgot is very good. I played 5 games with him in the free week in ranked. I currently have an average of 11 kills 1-2 death and 11 assists with 100% winrate.


No offense directly at you but these kind of statement makes me giggle everytime. How can you dertermine that a champion is "very good" based on your 10:1 ratio. Randomly stating your stats does not prove anything. If you were in the top 200 elo, it would. But maybe your ranking is 800 elo and your ranked game doesn't provide any good analogy.

Don't take it too serious but if you want to prove a point, state some facts, not some random "I did a pentakill once with eve, SHE IS OP"

Takling about urgot I think he does just fine, he's as good as ashe, cait, trist, ezreal, kog, mf, vayne etc...
Brood War is forever
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 19:41:01
October 03 2011 19:38 GMT
#35
On October 04 2011 03:29 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.


the ban pick phase makes it balanced. you pick the people you play with one at a time and saying the 2 people you don't want in the game and the other team does the same. picking shitty hero comps isn't riots problem.

That's not how video games are supposed to work.

Edit, to clarify: Counter-picks do not auto-balance a game. That's strategy, not balancing. If you are using a particular strategy to deal with something imbalanced, well then... your game is imbalanced.
#TeamBuLba
Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
October 03 2011 19:39 GMT
#36
League of Legends; I think it's also one of the hardest games to play at the highest level because the game changes state every 2 weeks. If any of the 'Flavour of the Month' champions, or plays catch on for more than 2 weeks, expect some patch notes to change that. In addition, there are no (official) replays, a huge variety of 'strategy' sites and only a core set of streamers being watched; it's impossible to consistently learn and practise the game.
Any hero is OP when correctly pubstomping. Maybe with a BO5 with 2 of the best teams playing the same champs making the same plays (picks & bans!) we can really declare champs as OP.
Smash fear, learn anything; except for spiders
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
October 03 2011 20:10 GMT
#37
because LoL is based on a more team based strategy (ganking), doesn't matter if there are 1 or 2 op characters.
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
Kaonis
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
October 03 2011 21:25 GMT
#38
On October 04 2011 04:39 Yammiez wrote:
League of Legends; I think it's also one of the hardest games to play at the highest level because the game changes state every 2 weeks. If any of the 'Flavour of the Month' champions, or plays catch on for more than 2 weeks, expect some patch notes to change that. In addition, there are no (official) replays, a huge variety of 'strategy' sites and only a core set of streamers being watched; it's impossible to consistently learn and practise the game.
Any hero is OP when correctly pubstomping. Maybe with a BO5 with 2 of the best teams playing the same champs making the same plays (picks & bans!) we can really declare champs as OP.

Vlad says hello :D

Then goodbye D:
Nevermind.
BordZ
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia118 Posts
October 04 2011 04:31 GMT
#39
OK, I should note a few things,

Urgot is not my favourite hero at all (that would be karth), hes just the ranged ad I got and his runes synergise with my ap hero runes.

I am not complaining, no idea where that came from, I am laughing at the stupidity of someone.

I needed to clear my mind before bed and I wrote that poor bit of text to do so.

Finally I better stop procrastinating and get back to my uni work

And yes vlad is up, imo.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 04 2011 13:10 GMT
#40
People complain about my LeBlanc all the time when i 1-combo them 30 minutes into the game when they still haven't got any magic resistance or health items while i have all of my core items.

LoL seems to have a lot more balance whine than even SC2, which is quite the feat.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Map Test Tournament
11:00
$500 4v4 Open
WardiTV381
IndyStarCraft 285
Rex85
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 285
OGKoka 237
Rex 85
ProTech84
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25923
Rain 5643
Horang2 1529
EffOrt 1355
actioN 1000
Hyuk 555
Snow 322
BeSt 252
Larva 193
Rush 173
[ Show more ]
Leta 170
Pusan 152
Light 111
Hyun 101
Barracks 85
Soulkey 82
Mind 76
ZerO 68
Nal_rA 62
ggaemo 56
Liquid`Ret 48
Sharp 38
Sea.KH 29
ivOry 24
sorry 21
JYJ20
Movie 19
Backho 19
soO 17
Free 17
Sacsri 10
Terrorterran 8
Noble 8
SilentControl 6
Icarus 5
Shine 3
Dota 2
singsing2814
XcaliburYe171
boxi98144
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor92
Other Games
olofmeister775
B2W.Neo729
crisheroes468
Hui .211
Lowko93
NeuroSwarm39
Mew2King37
Trikslyr24
EmSc Tv 19
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 21
Other Games
EmSc Tv 19
StarCraft 2
EmSc2Tv 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1215
Other Games
• WagamamaTV185
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
15h 16m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
20h 16m
RSL Revival
22h 16m
Reynor vs Cure
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 20h
RSL Revival
1d 22h
Online Event
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.