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scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
October 03 2011 16:00 GMT
#21
LoL is pretty balanced.

There are always some stronger champions than others but you can ban 4. Of course you have to play your pick/ban game right but if you do so there is no problems.

People who cry IMBA are probably lvl 19 with no experience in ranked. From 1300+ elo you usually have no problems playing a fair game.
Brood War is forever
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 03 2011 16:05 GMT
#22
Basically any champ can be seen as OP when they get fed and are way ahead in lvls/gold then everyone else. Silly people. Had my 1st intentional feeder player in a long time in ranked today. Sucked :\
Never Knows Best.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 03 2011 16:26 GMT
#23
nevar play pogeman if u suk :d

hope this helps
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 03 2011 16:33 GMT
#24
On October 04 2011 01:26 prplhz wrote:
nevar play pogeman if u suk :d

hope this helps

u gotta skate
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:47:12
October 03 2011 16:45 GMT
#25
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.
Moonie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway33 Posts
October 03 2011 17:14 GMT
#26
On October 03 2011 23:34 GigaFlop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 23:25 FreshandLegit wrote:
Not gonna lie I actually thought it was pokemans for the first paragraph or so, after that I was just confused and stopped reading = / Glad 4th poster was able to clarify though

I thought it was Magic: The Gathering for a while. Up until about the point where he mentions feeding/creeps/towers etc


Ahaha, so did I. :D
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
October 03 2011 17:36 GMT
#27
Urgot isnt op. Annie can shit on Urgot all day with all her AP
Team[AoV]
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
October 03 2011 18:17 GMT
#28
wtf are you guys rambling about. this is clearly about pokemon
Graphicscolosi suck
ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
October 03 2011 18:24 GMT
#29
Cool story bro.

User was warned for this post
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13902 Posts
October 03 2011 18:27 GMT
#30
try cho gath with a gunblade speed boots and a mericle hes sustainable as all hell and then you can build him either full on ap nomnom or tanky.

I'm working on a hybrid tanky cho thats working wonders in normal's.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13902 Posts
October 03 2011 18:29 GMT
#31
On October 04 2011 01:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.


the ban pick phase makes it balanced. you pick the people you play with one at a time and saying the 2 people you don't want in the game and the other team does the same. picking shitty hero comps isn't riots problem.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
October 03 2011 18:36 GMT
#32
Urgot is very good. I played 5 games with him in the free week in ranked. I currently have an average of 11 kills 1-2 death and 11 assists with 100% winrate. You can outlane pretty much all ad carries at bot lane except cait(that range and trap is just too strong).


League has a few very strong heroes like GP, fiddlestick(imo strongest champion until high elo since low elo people don't ward as much and just die to his ult+cc), and amumu. They are much stronger than most other heroes. But bans can often take care of these heroes.

Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 03 2011 18:41 GMT
#33
On October 04 2011 01:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.


I think you are the one that is kidding...SC2 balance is horrid still. Broodwar needed years to be balanced and SC2 is no different, its not even close yet.
Brees on in
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
October 03 2011 18:49 GMT
#34
On October 04 2011 03:36 xbankx wrote:
Urgot is very good. I played 5 games with him in the free week in ranked. I currently have an average of 11 kills 1-2 death and 11 assists with 100% winrate.


No offense directly at you but these kind of statement makes me giggle everytime. How can you dertermine that a champion is "very good" based on your 10:1 ratio. Randomly stating your stats does not prove anything. If you were in the top 200 elo, it would. But maybe your ranking is 800 elo and your ranked game doesn't provide any good analogy.

Don't take it too serious but if you want to prove a point, state some facts, not some random "I did a pentakill once with eve, SHE IS OP"

Takling about urgot I think he does just fine, he's as good as ashe, cait, trist, ezreal, kog, mf, vayne etc...
Brood War is forever
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 19:41:01
October 03 2011 19:38 GMT
#35
On October 04 2011 03:29 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 04 2011 00:14 MaGariShun wrote:
How could you call LoL not balanced?
At the moment there is only 1 OP hero (lee sin) and 1 slightly OP (morg). And that's not even a problem, because you can ban 4 heros when playing ranked (and more in tourneys). Looking at GSL (hi there terran) I'd say LoL is even more balanced than SC2


You're kidding right? There is no way in hell LoL is more balanced than SC2 because a lot of heroes aren't even viable competitively at the top level. Also, the fact that you can ban 4 heroes doesn't make any imbalanced hero any less imbalanced. I'm not crying that LoL is imbalanced, I agree it's a pretty balanced game, but I would in no way say it's more balanced than SC2.

I don't really want to derail this thread so I'll leave it at that, I just can't believe someone on TL would argue that LoL is more balanced than SC2 though.


the ban pick phase makes it balanced. you pick the people you play with one at a time and saying the 2 people you don't want in the game and the other team does the same. picking shitty hero comps isn't riots problem.

That's not how video games are supposed to work.

Edit, to clarify: Counter-picks do not auto-balance a game. That's strategy, not balancing. If you are using a particular strategy to deal with something imbalanced, well then... your game is imbalanced.
#TeamBuLba
Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
October 03 2011 19:39 GMT
#36
League of Legends; I think it's also one of the hardest games to play at the highest level because the game changes state every 2 weeks. If any of the 'Flavour of the Month' champions, or plays catch on for more than 2 weeks, expect some patch notes to change that. In addition, there are no (official) replays, a huge variety of 'strategy' sites and only a core set of streamers being watched; it's impossible to consistently learn and practise the game.
Any hero is OP when correctly pubstomping. Maybe with a BO5 with 2 of the best teams playing the same champs making the same plays (picks & bans!) we can really declare champs as OP.
Smash fear, learn anything; except for spiders
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
October 03 2011 20:10 GMT
#37
because LoL is based on a more team based strategy (ganking), doesn't matter if there are 1 or 2 op characters.
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
Kaonis
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
October 03 2011 21:25 GMT
#38
On October 04 2011 04:39 Yammiez wrote:
League of Legends; I think it's also one of the hardest games to play at the highest level because the game changes state every 2 weeks. If any of the 'Flavour of the Month' champions, or plays catch on for more than 2 weeks, expect some patch notes to change that. In addition, there are no (official) replays, a huge variety of 'strategy' sites and only a core set of streamers being watched; it's impossible to consistently learn and practise the game.
Any hero is OP when correctly pubstomping. Maybe with a BO5 with 2 of the best teams playing the same champs making the same plays (picks & bans!) we can really declare champs as OP.

Vlad says hello :D

Then goodbye D:
Nevermind.
BordZ
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia118 Posts
October 04 2011 04:31 GMT
#39
OK, I should note a few things,

Urgot is not my favourite hero at all (that would be karth), hes just the ranged ad I got and his runes synergise with my ap hero runes.

I am not complaining, no idea where that came from, I am laughing at the stupidity of someone.

I needed to clear my mind before bed and I wrote that poor bit of text to do so.

Finally I better stop procrastinating and get back to my uni work

And yes vlad is up, imo.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 04 2011 13:10 GMT
#40
People complain about my LeBlanc all the time when i 1-combo them 30 minutes into the game when they still haven't got any magic resistance or health items while i have all of my core items.

LoL seems to have a lot more balance whine than even SC2, which is quite the feat.
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