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nautti
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Finland5 Posts
October 02 2011 19:25 GMT
#1
Ok, we all know it's a great game, no doubt! It demands a lot of skill to be really good and you can't beat a pro with just pure luck. SC2 fits for everyone, young and old and you don't even have to play it by yourself to enjoy it. Just spectating the games can be very entertaining. These things make the game good, but what makes it special? I like how Jeffrey Alejos said it on the SonsOfStarcraft: "It is a top down game that spawned a bottom up society, where the stars are the fans and the fans are the stars." The stars are truly the biggest fans. They spent most of the time with the game and in the game. But the real stars are the true fans, that follow and support their favourite players. Mimic their plays, spectate and cheer, support and live through their idols. But still, it's not the pros and fans who makes this so special - it's you!

Since the SC2 community is so huge there are bigger variety of people and persons. The two sides of the coin can be easely seen. If we put all the all-knowing insecure brats that are still searhing themselves, all the trolls and E-penis boosters aside there are so many great people who are working to make this community even better. Ofcourse community this big have bigger stars, those great nerdballers, who bravely guides us and spreads the word of Esports. Thank you day9, Artosis and Tasteless just to name a few. But you don't have to be huge nerdballer to make SC2 so special! It's even more important what happens on the lower levels of the community. How to get more and more new players to be interested about the game. How players treat each others. Ofcourse there are competition and large emotions involved but still, you can always try to give something back. So far SC2 community have exceeded all my expectations.

I red somewhere that there are about 150 people working with the site TeamLiquid volunteerly and free of charge. That is just awesome! Because of that we have a great SC2 site that connect us, help us and feed us. There are so many great players that stream night after night their games and try to tell what are they doing and why. They want to help their fans to become better gamers and understand the game more. So many active players who write their own blogs and help each others out, people who want to casts games and people who create content to different sites. There are even players who give lessons for free, teach, advice and help other players to improve. There are people who want to make documentaries about the people close to SC2 and spread the word. The SC2 community even collected the pledge of $18,400 to make Sons Of Starcraft happen in only one night! How amazing is that! You can do so much around SC2!

I have to say special thanks to TeamLiquid forums and a guy called Basagu / Carapace. He just happened to read some of my first blog posts and offered to give me some tips for Protoss play. How great is that. I have just started playing and yet there is this platinum protoss willing to give me tips and show some tricks. Although I'm almost twice at his age, we get along just great. I'm very grateful for all the advises and time he has given me. I'm sure Basagu will make a great SC2 mentor and coach one day if that's what he wants to! It's all about you and how you approach things. You tend to get what you ask for.

But what makes SC2 and it's community to feel so much better and special than the others?

I'd have to say those people who are willing to do something to improve the community, those who are giving something back, you are the reason what makes SC2 so special. I'm overwhelmed how many of you are out there!! Thank you so much for your work and please continue doing that. It's great! SC2 is definitely the crown of ESPORTS in my eyes!

You can read my whole post from my blog: http://sc2.nautti.fi/?p=155

Cheers,
nautti

PS. What makes SC2 so special for you? Have you got some exceptional help from a surprising level or have you give a helping hand to a new comer who needed it? What is the thing that have given you the biggest smile in here?

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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
October 02 2011 19:38 GMT
#2
The best thing about Starcraft is losing to a build, then developing a counter strat and never losing to it again.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
October 02 2011 19:40 GMT
#3
For me SC2 is a great time dump.
wilsonreis
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil97 Posts
October 02 2011 19:54 GMT
#4
i´m no veteran poster myself, but i´d try contributing more to TL before making a "read the whole post from my blog" blog. This way it looks like 99% self promotion, 1% contribution.

Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
October 02 2011 19:58 GMT
#5
On October 03 2011 04:54 wilsonreis wrote:
i´m no veteran poster myself, but i´d try contributing more to TL before making a "read the whole post from my blog" blog. This way it looks like 99% self promotion, 1% contribution.



wait. did the op like come to your home and forced you to read the whole post at gun point? and i don't see correlation between a quality post and a user's post count, please elaborate.
fuzzayy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States99 Posts
October 02 2011 20:03 GMT
#6
SC2 is so fun when you just decimate your other opponent when you didn't think you could.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 02 2011 20:09 GMT
#7
On October 03 2011 04:58 Harrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:54 wilsonreis wrote:
i´m no veteran poster myself, but i´d try contributing more to TL before making a "read the whole post from my blog" blog. This way it looks like 99% self promotion, 1% contribution.



wait. did the op like come to your home and forced you to read the whole post at gun point? and i don't see correlation between a quality post and a user's post count, please elaborate.

Usually people with higher post counts, dont post complete trash and thus they've been around for a while. Some of them better posters than others obviously.

On the OP: I guess because its .. Broodwars sequel or something? I dunno i've never thought of it as "special" before
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Paraclete
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States100 Posts
October 02 2011 20:14 GMT
#8
On October 03 2011 04:54 wilsonreis wrote:
i´m no veteran poster myself, but i´d try contributing more to TL before making a "read the whole post from my blog" blog. This way it looks like 99% self promotion, 1% contribution.



You do realize that he was just describing the how he felt about the community and the game, and that he was wondering what made it special for us, right? No need to bash him...

Anyway, what makes the game special to me is the vast amount of skill needed to play it and the great community. Also, this is the first and only game I've ever watched streams and tournaments for, which makes it unique and special to me.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 02 2011 20:24 GMT
#9
Just the name. That's about it.
why so 진지해?
LeoLeo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden456 Posts
October 02 2011 20:35 GMT
#10
Those moments when you win, when the puzzle gets solved and you end up as a the sole winner. Most of the time Starcraft 2 seems and dull, but if I just win that one game where I was behind the whole game and somehow won. Man... Sure feels great :D

Also you seem like a douche coming to someones blog only to diss it :/
Bacon, Orangina and chilling
Carapace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands128 Posts
October 02 2011 20:41 GMT
#11
On October 03 2011 04:25 nautti wrote:

I have to say special thanks to TeamLiquid forums and a guy called Basagu / Carapace. He just happened to read some of my first blog posts and offered to give me some tips for Protoss play. How great is that. I have just started playing and yet there is this platinum protoss willing to give me tips and show some tricks. Although I'm almost twice at his age, we get along just great. I'm very grateful for all the advises and time he has given me. I'm sure Basagu will make a great SC2 mentor and coach one day if that's what he wants to! It's all about you and how you approach things. You tend to get what you ask for.



He sounds like such a nice guy!
Conquerer67
Profile Joined May 2011
United States605 Posts
October 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#12
StarCraft is special because you spend a half hour sitting in a chair to decide the result of a ten second long battle.

Also, don't advertise your shit on TL.
I hate when people compare SC2 and rochambeu. One race isn't fucking supposed to counter another one. | Protoss isn't OP. Their units on the other hand....
FetusFondler
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States246 Posts
October 02 2011 20:49 GMT
#13
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.


I've gotta agree; if it weren't for the name, it'd probably end up as just another failed RTS game.
None are so busy as the fool and knave.
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
October 02 2011 21:01 GMT
#14
On October 03 2011 05:49 FetusFondler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.


I've gotta agree; if it weren't for the name, it'd probably end up as just another failed RTS game.


Not failed, necessarily. It probably would have sold well, had a small competitive scene, and some sort of fan base. However, anyone who thinks that all this esports business couldn't have happened without the legacy of Broodwar is deluding themselves.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
October 02 2011 21:14 GMT
#15
On October 03 2011 06:01 deafhobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 05:49 FetusFondler wrote:
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.


I've gotta agree; if it weren't for the name, it'd probably end up as just another failed RTS game.


Not failed, necessarily. It probably would have sold well, had a small competitive scene, and some sort of fan base. However, anyone who thinks that all this esports business couldn't have happened without the legacy of Broodwar is deluding themselves.

Well, yeah. There are a lot of really great games out there, with really strong competitive scenes, which are confined to a small dedicated fanbase because of their lack of mass appeal. But I don't think anyone expected before beta that competitive SC2 would end up this big internationally.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
October 02 2011 21:14 GMT
#16
Big money, Thorzane, Stephano and this
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name.

"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 02 2011 21:47 GMT
#17
Community.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
October 02 2011 21:59 GMT
#18
SC1
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Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
October 02 2011 22:15 GMT
#19
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.


Wow, that is actually the only and perfect answer to the question in OP. I think there is nothing to add to this. Maybe just....money.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
October 02 2011 22:17 GMT
#20
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.


Have to agree. Without bw's legacy there would be nothing. No day[9], no tasteless or artosis, no countless tournies during beta, no money being blindly thrown into "Esports"... There would be no Nesteas, no MVPs, no MCs to look up to. No "Starleagues", no gomtv, no teamliquid... Sometimes I feel like many people here don't appreciate that. Even the "SC2 community" is just an amalgam of other RTS communities with a few new randoms sprinkled in. SC2 is not responsible for any of this. The vast majority of SC2 strategy and gameplay mechanics are a mere subset of the real Starcraft. One day I hope people will get a grip and realize that an inferior game came along and nudged a masterpiece into obscurity.

Uh oh, I've gone off on a rant.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
October 02 2011 22:50 GMT
#21
Starcraft II is special because it's the sequel of the greatest game on earth, Starcraft Brood War.
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
October 02 2011 22:55 GMT
#22
The game itself is terrible, but what makes it special is the community that it inherited from Brood War. Blizzard may have done a bad job, but there are so many people who trying hard to make this work as an esport.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 02 2011 23:07 GMT
#23
its in the name and the fact that it is Blizzard(which has to do with the nanme I guess) if not it would be written off as a decent game like Dawn of War or supreme commander but really nothing special.
WriterXiao8~~
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
October 02 2011 23:11 GMT
#24
I don't see how you can write something like this without referring even once to Brood War.

On October 03 2011 04:25 nautti wrote:
Because of that we have a great SC2 site that connect us, help us and feed us.


Looks like the transformation is finally complete.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
wilsonreis
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil97 Posts
October 02 2011 23:18 GMT
#25
On October 03 2011 05:14 Paraclete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:54 wilsonreis wrote:
i´m no veteran poster myself, but i´d try contributing more to TL before making a "read the whole post from my blog" blog. This way it looks like 99% self promotion, 1% contribution.



You do realize that he was just describing the how he felt about the community and the game, and that he was wondering what made it special for us, right? No need to bash him...

Anyway, what makes the game special to me is the vast amount of skill needed to play it and the great community. Also, this is the first and only game I've ever watched streams and tournaments for, which makes it unique and special to me.


Well i do realize that but if if all comes to sharing the love and whatnot, why couldn´t he share the "whole post" with the community in the TL-blog itself ? I´m sorry if i sound like a douche, the text looks legit, it just doesn´t chime well with the "read the rest at www.lookatme.com" at the end.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
October 02 2011 23:33 GMT
#26
Its played internationally and growing every day.

Unlike a certain game only played in one little country and slowly stagnating.
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
October 02 2011 23:38 GMT
#27
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.

This is the truest thing I have heard on this site so far. SC 2 stands so high in this world because it stands on the shoulders of giants, just like how the highest rock in this world is sitting on top of Mt. Everest. Gotta give credit to where it's due: to the greatest game in history, SCBW. Cheers.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
October 02 2011 23:39 GMT
#28
On October 03 2011 08:33 Sandro wrote:
Its played internationally and growing every day.


Well the season 3 player count compared to season 2 and 1 state the exact opposite. The competitive scene and the viewer base may be growing, but the majority of the actual player base (from bronze to masters) is shrinking.
ggaemo fan
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
October 03 2011 00:17 GMT
#29
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.


Couldn't have said it any better.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 03 2011 00:21 GMT
#30
As much as I kind of feel like people are hasty to agree with Rekrul, I have to look like a hypocrite now and say he's pretty much right, It's all about the BW legacy and what was transferred over. In short, it was BW that succeeded, not SC2.
memes are a dish best served dank
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
October 03 2011 00:27 GMT
#31
Starcraft makes it special.
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
October 03 2011 03:32 GMT
#32
Shit, I might legitly quit Sc2 now. Dammit
esports
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 05:35:56
October 03 2011 05:32 GMT
#33
On October 03 2011 07:55 iamke55 wrote:
The game itself is terrible, but what makes it special is the community that it inherited from Brood War. Blizzard may have done a bad job, but there are so many people who trying hard to make this work as an esport.

This. Basically an elaboration of Rekrul's post. It's so sad seeing all the hard work put into making BW an esport being thrown away because of sc2.. Even boxer abandoned BW. Shameful selling out imo.

On October 03 2011 04:25 nautti wrote:
SC2 is definitely the crown of ESPORTS in my eyes!

>.<
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
October 03 2011 08:04 GMT
#34
On October 03 2011 08:11 Loanshark wrote:
I don't see how you can write something like this without referring even once to Brood War.

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:25 nautti wrote:
Because of that we have a great SC2 site that connect us, help us and feed us.


Looks like the transformation is finally complete.


lol....

And Rekrul just bent the OP's intent in half like it was nothing. Kudos~

It's like SC2 is the crown jewel and BW is the actual crown.
I wonder how many people would rage if the teamliquid logo turned into "teamliquid: Starcraft II Progaming News - Community - Team"?
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
October 03 2011 09:26 GMT
#35
Wow.. It looks like the BW Elitists have taken over the blog section. And because I am a BW Elitist too, I will quote what was said before:

On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.


Sry OP, but that's just how it is.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 03 2011 09:46 GMT
#36
On October 03 2011 05:24 Rekrul wrote:
Just the name. That's about it.

Fuck I was gonna say that!
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