EPTAlso consdering many people in tl are under 18, this is even worse.
Granted, if i was older, i wouldn't mind trying it once. but only once. no more.
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zeOllie
Australia486 Posts
Also consdering many people in tl are under 18, this is even worse. Granted, if i was older, i wouldn't mind trying it once. but only once. no more. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
Edit: No disrespect to orb but my own personal experience has steered me away from Cannabis. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:18 hp.Shell wrote: Please add Paranoia, Major Depression, Severe Anxiety, Avoidant Behavior and Social Dissociation to the Cons. Absolutely. Might vary from person to person but I am not very good at holding conversations haha edit: ty for nice blog orb ^^ | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:12 -orb- wrote: Just like with anything in life, moderation and balance is key. Why would drugs be any different? If you eat mcdonalds every day, you are going to have an unhealthy body and your life will probably go downhill. Similar things happen if you smoke cannabis too much. Personally I don't usually smoke more than a bowl a day (or less), though on special occasions I will indulge. As for it being a forum that has kids on it... are you implying that drugs should never be discussed on the internet at all? Kids are everywhere on the internet, you can't avoid all questionably appropriate topics just because some kids are going to see it. All you can hope to do is educate them in the most logical and fact-driven way possible. If you think the government propaganda is better, you probably haven't been paying attention to the drug war the last couple decades. When you lie to kids and tell them these specific drugs are terrible and will ruin your life etc, as soon as they learn you lied to them you have instantly lost all credibility. This is what leads to even more drug abuse. You can see the same thing happen with schools that teach abstinence and don't teach about safe sex. this isn't a discussion, orb. you are praising weed. biased and one-sided, no real facts quoted. you reduced the risks of weed to the tar when it's being burnt. your post is like advertisement... in a kid's forum, basically. On September 28 2011 10:16 VelRa_G wrote: But as for the "kids" you're trying to protect? Show me a kid on the web who hasn't been exposed to this sort of content. i've never read a similarly euphoric praise on drugs in a non-drug forum ever in my 11 years of interneting. so yea, i guess 95% of the minors here have never been exposed to a text like this. | ||
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beg
991 Posts
If you've heard the rumor that "you don't get high your first time smoking cannabis," this is probably the reason. no. this is actually true. i haven't gotten high the first 7 times i smoked. you hear this a lot, cause it's true. no doubt i inhaled correctly (i'm a smoker). and everyone else was getting high too. | ||
Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On September 28 2011 09:42 beg wrote: i'm still not sure about the long term effects of daily or very regular smoking. i feel like i've fucked up my whole motivation severely, but i'm not sure if it's due to the weed. it may very well be. and i see parallels between a lot of heavy smokers. I think the type of people prone to daily smoking may have other tendencies that lead to lack of motivation etc, as well as people using weed to self medicate problems... Don't blame the weed, I say  .Cheers orb! Here's to 5k more posts :>. | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:31 Adebisi wrote: I think the type of people prone to daily smoking may have other tendencies that lead to lack of motivation etc, as well as people using weed to self medicate problems... Don't blame the weed, I say .Cheers orb! Here's to 5k more posts :>. i'm not blaming the weed. i'm just pointing out that orb is a little too biased. he claims that weed has no negative long-term effects, but he doesn't really know, cause no one really knows. scientific studies are very inconclusive about this topic. and you know, "lack of motivation", sounds kinda cute. but i lost fucking fun in all my hobbys. i felt the fun vanishing over time. maybe it's not the weed. i hope it's not the weed. i wanna continue smoking :/ | ||
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NathanSC
United States620 Posts
I'm a recreational smoker, and do so about once every 6 months, but I'm not convinced that marijuana is without any negative side effects after long term use. It could just as likely be the kinds of people that gravitate toward using the drug regularly, however. It's enough to keep me away from regular use though. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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Battleaxe
United States843 Posts
One thing that wasn't necessarily missed..more so not touched on I'm sure for brevity or lack of information was the sensitivity factor. From my understanding, everyone has a different level of sensitivity to THC, much in the same way two people of the same size may have a different tolerance level for alcohol. I know some people the same size as me who could take one hit from a bowl and be high, while I may need 2-3 before I'm feeling similar effects. Considering most of the effects are relative to the person, this is pretty hard to tell, but I think most people who have used cannabis for awhile could attest to this. Sad to see there wasn't a guide for a grav, some of the homebrew ones I've seen in college were awesome displays of ingenuity and simplicity. I know the one that my housemates and I had was created by someone in the house while they were high (who says smoking makes you lack motivation! )I can agree with the sentiment in the thread that regular smoking can tend to decrease productivity and motivation, but I'm sure there are more then a fair share of people who can say their productivity hasn't been affected at all. EDIT: Much of the people I've come across who seem depressed when they aren't high probably just suffer from depression in the first place, not due to the substance itself. If I was to describe what being high is like to someone who doesn't smoke frequently, I use the phrase, "it makes everything less boring". Who wants to clean? Nobody, but it has to be done. If you can clean while your high, achieve the same level of cleanliness, AND enjoy yourself in the process, there's no short term reason not to. I find many people who attempt to stop going back because they realize how much time they spend actually doing nothing or things that aren't even fun to them. With all the ridiculous medication and substances that are legal, it absolutely stuns me that cannabis isn't legal. The rhetoric that flies around from the governments and other agencies against a naturally growing plant is unbelievable. | ||
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FuDDx
United States5018 Posts
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Temporarykid
Canada362 Posts
However, while knowing almost everything you had to say in this post, I did not know about cornering! Thanks, and I will try it with him the next time we light up!  | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
Here are some facts. I smoked the first joint ever when I was 14, and didn't smoke again till I was 16, and only when I was 17 did I really start smoking. Since 2007 I've smoked daily. With maybe a full 2 weeks of "missed days" in the entire span. Now I will list all the effects. My stomach doesn't hurt me constantly anymore, to a crippling manner. I'm much calmer about things in general since I'm a very "anxious" person. Because of how my mind works, I anticipate as many possible outcomes of my current actions and pick the best path, and sorry if this is bragging, but my brain works shockingly well and too many possibilities leads to many bad ones, and one gets "anxious" about what one does not know. When I've been sober a long time the problems in my head get bigger and bigger, I think about large scale major world issues and problems, and this gets very depressing. When I smoke my world shrinks to a very manageable scale of things in my control which helps ease the mind greatly. On a side note, I believe people call this "paranoia" or getting really worried about things. I think this is less about "a side effect of weed" and more about your minds ability to anticipate future possibilities. When you're baked your mind works better believe it or not, and you'll be more able to understand the repercussions of your actions better. Bad things can happen cause you smoke weed, and you fixate on them to an obsessive point cause it's just in your nature for your mind to want to avoid it. That's not weeds fault people get in trouble for smoking it, it's large corporations controlling farming/paper/logging industries that saw hemp as incredible competition. Some more facts. I'm FAR better in social situations baked, and even sober, than I was 5 years ago. Some people might know my type, I'm "gifted" in music, math, and language, and I have a a very visually based learning. I can close my eyes (or with my eyes open for simpler things like changing groups around on an O-Chem figure on the board) and manipulate 3d space. I can make objects, figures, dissemble and reassemble things all in my mind and see them clearly. Being high helps this immensely and gives me a valuable tool for learning complex things. That being said, I wasn't very SOCIALLY gifted, as in I just kinda listened and thought in the background in large social events. After starting to smoke weed a lot, I ended up joining the (4 times in a row state champion) school debate team. I did extemp. What Extemp is for those not in debate is, you get list of topics for the tournament, and you research the SHIT out of them collecting data in a massive bin, and once competition comes, you draw a random topic from the massive list, and you get 15 minutes to outline a 30 minute speech to be spoken in front of a judge WITHOUT notes. I can do that baked. So stop with your fucking BULLSHIT lies about pot making you "lazy" or "unmotivated" Maybe it's just your problem, and if there's one thing weed DOES do, its show you your fucking problems. Its just up to you to fix them. I go the one of the best hard science and engineering schools in the WORLD, I smoke weed errrrrry day. Whats your problem? | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
alcohol and tobacco are far, far worse. unfortunately society tends to be quite dumb and relies on pre-conceived notions more than logic. | ||
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:17 zeOllie wrote: First of all, despite what you said, this is an illegal drug, and you are encouraging people to practice an illegal habit which can get people in jail for a long time. I read everything, and I understand your reasoning, but you honestly are leading people into a trap. Really not smart. Also consdering many people in tl are under 18, this is even worse. Granted, if i was older, i wouldn't mind trying it once. but only once. no more. He never encouraged it, he educated people on the subject. Not once did he say "you should try it." | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On September 28 2011 11:14 N3rV[Green] wrote: I can do that baked. So stop with your fucking BULLSHIT lies about pot making you "lazy" or "unmotivated" Maybe it's just your problem, and if there's one thing weed DOES do, its show you your fucking problems. i feel like you're talking to me, cause i was one of the two persons touching the topic... and, well... in my case, weed didn't "show me my fucking problems". my fun in doing things vanished over time. also my ability to cope with such a problem. but i'm not blaming weed. i researched and came to the conclusion that weed might be the reason. studies are inconclusive about this. but you're such a smart boy, you can find that out for yourself. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
And while it's true cannabis can make lazy in certain situations (like if you're unemployed an get high all day long you're not likely to motivate yourself to get a job), it helps me to focus better in many situations. I'm a big multitasker and the problem is that I'll always try to do as many stuffs as I can at the same time, resulting in a terrible efficiency at work. When I'm high, I just can't multitask well and I'll just forget everything thing else but my main task. I'm not saying anyone should get high at work, but we all know hard it is not to procrastinate when we have a paper to write. | ||
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
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beg
991 Posts
On September 28 2011 11:32 Nokarot wrote: He never encouraged it, he educated people on the subject. Not once did he say "you should try it." come on, you gotta admit, the OP was pretty encouraging, talking about how fantastic weed is and how it enhances your life... you really can't see how this is encouraging? also, the education value was very low, due to heavy bias. | ||
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