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On September 29 2011 07:37 takkatakka wrote:
I used to smoke maybe once a week or so, but each time I smoked I progressively (each session/high since the first) began feeling motion sick during the high. It got to the point that after the initial 15min peak or so, I'd just goto sleep because I felt so motion sick. Obviously I don't smoke anymore, but does anyone have any thoughts on what might've been happening?
1) smoking too much and not being used to it.
2) Dehydrated. Seriously, drink water it'll help.
3) Not in a good environment / made you feel very anxious / paranoid.
4) allergic to weed or THC. Seriously, it exists.
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Orb, I love how you have the balls to subtly promote cannabis on the Korean weekly. As a public figure, you can now join other distinguished celebrities who openly support weed like Jack Black, Snoop Dogg, John Mayer, and of course the Men's Warehouse guy George Zimmer.
Maybe this is the start of a trend where the SC2 community can make a real impact on legislation and finally legitimize the safer alternative.
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Long time medical marijuana license holder here. Good post! <3 cannabis & always will.
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I remember my university time - most people used to smoke a joint from time to time and tbh it is in no way worse than having a drink. I had my last joint years ago, but some of my best friends still like to smoke on a regular basis and they are actualy proper citizens, that work fulltime, have girlfriends/wifes and don`t fit any typical stereotypes. Use /= Abuse.
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Orb, can you give your opinion on synthetic cannibinoids (aka Spice, K2, JWH, etc)? If you have any firsthand experience, can you compare/contrast nonsynthetic and synthetic cannabis? Thanks.
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On September 29 2011 10:07 HolyViper wrote:
Orb, can you give your opinion on synthetic cannibinoids (aka Spice, K2, JWH, etc)? If you have any firsthand experience, can you compare/contrast nonsynthetic and synthetic cannabis? Thanks.
Although there is literally no academic information on the synthetic cannabinoids (not a single human study has been performed), I have great reason to believe that they present a much larger danger to the average user, especially in terms of heart issues. Although you'll have to simply take my opinion at face value, my dad is the chief medical examiner in a major US city, and I've personally sat in on discussions between him and his toxicologists that made repeated reference to the similarity of the JWH analogues and Methadone in terms of a lengthening of what's called a qTc interval, a recognized factor in sudden cardiac death. In other words, I have anecdotal reason to think that synthetic cannabinoids are straight up not good for you (additionally, they are full agonists of the CB1 receptors, while cannabis is only a partial agonist, and the difference between the two pathophysiologically is immense) and I would steer clear.
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I used to smoke a lot. I'd be high(really high. 5-6 bowls)like 3-4 days a week. This went on for 6ish months then I started having really bad anxiety attacks when I'd smoke. Nothing had changed in my smoking habits. Same people, same place, same dealer. I quit shortly after that because I just could NOT have a smoking session without literally freaking out. I'll definitely say it was fun while it lasted though.
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On September 29 2011 10:42 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 10:07 HolyViper wrote:
Orb, can you give your opinion on synthetic cannibinoids (aka Spice, K2, JWH, etc)? If you have any firsthand experience, can you compare/contrast nonsynthetic and synthetic cannabis? Thanks. Although there is literally no academic information on the synthetic cannabinoids (not a single human study has been performed), I have great reason to believe that they present a much larger danger to the average user, especially in terms of heart issues. Although you'll have to simply take my opinion at face value, my dad is the chief medical examiner in a major US city, and I've personally sat in on discussions between him and his toxicologists that made repeated reference to the similarity of the JWH analogues and Methadone in terms of a lengthening of what's called a qTc interval, a recognized factor in sudden cardiac death. In other words, I have anecdotal reason to think that synthetic cannabinoids are straight up not good for you (additionally, they are full agonists of the CB1 receptors, while cannabis is only a partial agonist, and the difference between the two pathophysiologically is immense) and I would steer clear.
Thank you for the information, and it's nice to hear someone who knows someone with personal, professional experience with it.  In laymen's terms, could you explain what the difference between full and partial agonists are?
(Also, a sidenote: I also thought there were no human experiments done yet, but I just found an article in the Drug and Alcohol Dependance (June 2011) journal that looked at JWH-018's effects of 15 New Zealanders with "serious mental illness" and, consistent with what you said, the researchers concluded "it seems likely that JWH-018 can precipitate psychosis in vulnerable individuals. People with risk factors for psychosis should be counseled against using synthetic cannabinoids.")
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On September 29 2011 10:07 HolyViper wrote:
Orb, can you give your opinion on synthetic cannibinoids (aka Spice, K2, JWH, etc)? If you have any firsthand experience, can you compare/contrast nonsynthetic and synthetic cannabis? Thanks.
Perhaps a relevant article in the LA Times about this topic and the researcher who created Spice.
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I think the people who have nothing nice or insightful on the subject should just refrain from posting. You don't go in to the kpop thread and rant about how kpop is so horrid; don't do it here either.
I didn't need this guide at all, but it seemed informative enough to me, so I approve.
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On September 28 2011 23:54 Klonere wrote:
Funny if Orb had made a blog about imbibing some fine beers or spirits I doubt he would have gotten half or even any shit at all for doing so.
Funny world.
if it came off the wrong way, i'm not trying to bash orb. I'm just saying that weed is illegal in many places.
beer + spirits = legal.
weed = illegal.
I think that's why this blog is getting so much shit.
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On September 29 2011 19:39 zeOllie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 23:54 Klonere wrote:
Funny if Orb had made a blog about imbibing some fine beers or spirits I doubt he would have gotten half or even any shit at all for doing so.
Funny world. if it came off the wrong way, i'm not trying to bash orb. I'm just saying that weed is illegal in many places. beer + spirits = legal. weed = illegal. I think that's why this blog is getting so much shit.
beer + spirits = worse for you than weed
weed = not worse for you than weed
maybe the question should be why weed is illegal and cigarettes and alcohol are legal. not why he is making a guide on weed.
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People that are rioting about weed have never had a colossal migraine that feels like it's going to
rip your brain in two half's.Instead of chukking down painkillers every few hours,you roll up a fat blunt and go to sleep like a little baby.
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On September 29 2011 20:45 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 19:39 zeOllie wrote:On September 28 2011 23:54 Klonere wrote:
Funny if Orb had made a blog about imbibing some fine beers or spirits I doubt he would have gotten half or even any shit at all for doing so.
Funny world. if it came off the wrong way, i'm not trying to bash orb. I'm just saying that weed is illegal in many places. beer + spirits = legal. weed = illegal. I think that's why this blog is getting so much shit. beer + spirits = worse for you than weed weed = not worse for you than weed maybe the question should be why weed is illegal and cigarettes and alcohol are legal. not why he is making a guide on weed.
I am not sure where people get the idea that beer+spirits is worse for you than weed. Beer is actually relatively nutritious, and in moderation, alcohol doesn't have any significant negative health effects if you are not pregnant (and some studies show that it may even have positive effects). Spirits don't really contain anything nutritious, but once again, in moderation, your body just filters out the alcohol without any damage (and the potential positive health effects of low amounts of alcohol may also apply). On the other hand, cannabis has no nutritional content and, like every other plant, when its smoke is inhaled, it introduces tar into your lungs.
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I've been smoking once a month or at most twice a month for about a year and a half now but I still cough a lot. Like I'm hackin on the ground gasping for air if I take a respectably big hit. Anyone have any idea whats wrong? Weed costs too much to smoke more but it's good for relaxation and I hate having to dread the coughing. Do I have weak lungs or something.
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On September 29 2011 21:13 Cragus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 20:45 nath wrote:On September 29 2011 19:39 zeOllie wrote:On September 28 2011 23:54 Klonere wrote:
Funny if Orb had made a blog about imbibing some fine beers or spirits I doubt he would have gotten half or even any shit at all for doing so.
Funny world. if it came off the wrong way, i'm not trying to bash orb. I'm just saying that weed is illegal in many places. beer + spirits = legal. weed = illegal. I think that's why this blog is getting so much shit. beer + spirits = worse for you than weed weed = not worse for you than weed maybe the question should be why weed is illegal and cigarettes and alcohol are legal. not why he is making a guide on weed. I am not sure where people get the idea that beer+spirits is worse for you than weed. Beer is actually relatively nutritious, and in moderation, alcohol doesn't have any significant negative health effects if you are not pregnant (and some studies show that it may even have positive effects). Spirits don't really contain anything nutritious, but once again, in moderation, your body just filters out the alcohol without any damage (and the potential positive health effects of low amounts of alcohol may also apply). On the other hand, cannabis has no nutritional content and, like every other plant, when its smoke is inhaled, it introduces tar into your lungs.
If everyone drank in moderation, then yes, alchohol would not be that bad. But guess what? Many people don't. Drunk driving kills a lot of people especially teenagers and young adults, increases the chance of getting cancer, impairs judgement, and it is very addicting too. On the other hand, as other people mentioned, marijuana has never directly caused death, helps cancer patients eat (which is important because many suffer from malnutrition), does not impair judgement (impairs motor functions a bit), and is way less cancerous.
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On September 28 2011 19:09 brendaaan wrote:
drugs are not good for you in any way possible! if you have the absolutely dumb ass excuse of "oh, man, but it grows in the dirt!" well to you i say, you are a fucking moron. coal is a naturally formed substance and have you ever tried smoking that shit.. no because you would die.
Nature made us the way we are because we work. and to the people that say 'Its not as bad as some other drugs,' you are stupid dumb asses. buying marijuana means that you are in contact with a drug dealers. you will always be constantly pressured to try newer harder drugs and if you are high at the time you 'dont really care,' so you might buy them.
i really thought the world of orb, i listened to him casting the korean weekly for the semis and the finals (including the mute game :/) and when he said he had made his 5000th post i was genually excited as i thought it was going to be something with great substance to it. however i come to find that it is a blog about weed.
TL.net is THE goto place for starcraft news and everything that is starcraft. having a post that is seen on the side saying "Cannabis and you! A newbies guide" it is NOT acceptable.
now i understand that my view is going to be seen as an ignorant asshole that has never done anything and to you i say, stfu i can say what i want.
User was warned for this post
lol.
Anyways, gratz orb cheers to another 5k ^_^
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On September 29 2011 19:39 zeOllie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 23:54 Klonere wrote:
Funny if Orb had made a blog about imbibing some fine beers or spirits I doubt he would have gotten half or even any shit at all for doing so.
Funny world. if it came off the wrong way, i'm not trying to bash orb. I'm just saying that weed is illegal in many places. beer + spirits = legal. weed = illegal. I think that's why this blog is getting so much shit.
You don't know where anyone here lives. It is decriminalized in many places including a portion of the united states. Alcohol is illegal in some islamic states, we must stop those topics too.
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Honestly, If it was legal, I'd be all over this stuff (in moderation of course, don't want to get addicted), but I can't risk using it when it is still illegal. Too much on the line for me to be caught with this stuff
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On September 29 2011 23:12 57 Corvette wrote:
Honestly, If it was legal, I'd be all over this stuff (in moderation of course, don't want to get addicted), but I can't risk using it when it is still illegal. Too much on the line for me to be caught with this stuff
What's the regulations like over there? Here in the UK it's a Class C (I think). If you are over 18 and get caught with it you get a caution right there on the spot and let you be.
It's so irritating though. During the last government, some council suggested the legalisation of several drugs and the government said they would consider it only if their own advisory body suggested likewise. New government, and said advisory body reccommends some legalisation and some downgrades, and one scientist in particular who called for the legalisation of ecstasy actually got the sack instead.
I go out on a night out in town and I see drunk people fighting each other, police sirens going and girls vommitting in the street. I go to a rave and everyone is my best friend
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