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THIS IS A LONG THREAD SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. ALSO IF YOU JUST SKIP TO THE VERY END WITHOUT READING THE WHOLE OP YOU WILL BE QUITE
CONFUSED
So having SC2 as a hobby I tend to spend a lot of time on the game. Me spending so much time on sc2 unfortunately makes my social skills quite bad (lets face why you like nerds?=P).
I started playing in june 2011, I was the only person that played at the time in my school (at least so I thought). Despite being a "nerd" I still have a small circle of friends I like to hang out with and play Xbox. After many attempts, I have finally got the two to play sc2. We would play every single day in the summer. There was a little bit of trolling going on here and there but it was all laughs and giggles.
Of the 3 of us, one of them got better than me (gratz to him making diamond today), but that is cool,because he is great at all video games.and I am happy for him. My other friend was in bronze I was in silver and my good friend was in gold.
After the summer my friend that was in bronze got promoted to silver.
My good friend however made it to plat, my other silver friend and I were still in silver.
Call it a curse or a blessing I had a very macro oriented mindset, that macro games will let you improve way more than one base pushes like the 4 gate. My other silver friend however (lets call him cheesy) believed you could get better by doing 4 gates and other one base pushes. He also values metagame over everything else (trust me). Cheesy eventually gets to gold before me (not complaining).
I was cool with that, he got into gold im happy for him. but unfortunately that is when the trolling starts. I get ripped on all the time for not getting into gold. I desperately wanted gold investing a lot of time and finally get promoted playing only macro styles.
We eventually found two other individuals that do play so we invited them into our little sc2 group. One of the individuals (lets call him gloaty) as his name suggests had bragged all day and night that he was good even though I 2-0 him. He recently switched to zerg (i also play zerg) saying that I suck. (Since I watch Destiny's Stream a lot, the other day he told me to get off destiny's dick then proceeded to ask me how to stop a 4 gate).
Cheesy was recently promoted to plat with a great 4 gate and 3 gate robo. I am currently ange from me sucking at sc2 to me being fat (i am slightly overweight). Because we are all on skysitting in high gold and so is gloaty.I am getting trolled so hard by cheesy and gloaty. Insults rpe every night, I have to hear them troll me when I am laddering.
Perhaps this does not apply to you, but I play significantly worse when I have people saying how bad I am and how I am fat as shit and need to lose weight WHEN I AM PLAYING. So I los
e more games, losing fuels even more trolling. Just today I was playing toss against a terran a could have easily beat. My unit comp was archon ht and chargelots. Just when the final decisive battle was about to start. Cheesy ends the call and Skype pulls me back to desktop. Needless to say I did not use a single storm. Yes I am mad
Right after the game cheesy begins to "troll" me through text messaging. Then he calls me asks if am mad, I rage, he again says "You are SO MAD" and then he says he is recording the calls and says he will let everyone at school hear it tommorow.
I am honestly in a situation where I don't know what to do. I tried to counter troll and it does kind of work until my good friend gets tired of it (my good friend usually takes my side on arguments and troll wars, unfortunately he is never on when I am laddering).
Also I am on the verge of giving up on macro games and do what cheesy does because that promotion (which would mean less trolling since I would be in the same league as cheesy) seems too good.
I really do not want to lose this group of friends but I am sick of getting "trolled" as it does put in a depressive state after every laddering session.
Also what I can do is quite limited as I am really young (15) but I really want to take action before this affects my school grades.
Thank you very much for reading! I know it looks as if I am bitching the whole time (there is some bitching involved I will not lie) But I guess this is one of those typical "WHAT DO I DO" teen situations. But I would be so very flattered if some of the more mature older TL members could share some words of wisdom.
 
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why don't you just tell them it makes you upset? if they still continue then perhaps it's not in your best interest to stay friends with them
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If he really gets on your nerves so much, the best thing you can do is tell him the truth.
I used to be like that, shooting insults at every occasion and always thought my friends would tell me if I overdid it. They never did. So I learned the hard way.
If he's still a dick after you tell him, you can still block him in skype and tell him to fuck off. You don't need to tolerate that kinda shit.
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Don't hang out around people who make you feel bad about yourself or just take what they are saying as a joke and write it off as nothing. Either way, people progress at different rates in the game and then hit a plateau at some point. Just keep pushing and trying to get better. Find a better group of friends even if they are online.
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I have asked why is being an asshole but the usual answer is either "don't be mad" or it is "your fat"
Usually something that has nothing to doing with anything. He has never told me to go kill myself or anything over the top so I kind of just swallow the trolling.
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Macro is only soo much of a game. If you only focus on macro, you will be a macro player, not a 'well-rounded' player.
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Sounds like you have some reach douche bags around you, I had a similar situation but only with one person. My advice would be to cease all contact with them if it continues and then just keep playing the game for fun, people improve at different rates but if you're playing macro games then you're on the right path.
I wish you good luck.
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you should probably learn how to play early aggression so you actually can multitask better. Sticking to learning how to play macro games is kind of limiting yourself whether or not you want to believe it (personally i think you're going to have to face up to the fact they're ahead of you by cheesing. a lot of people don't know how to handle early aggression which is why its powerful)
also your friends are retarded and you should start lifting weights to teach them a lesson. I wouldnt suggest cutting off communication because thats also a retard move but you need to put them in their place and if you cant do it via sc2 do it via irL /shrug
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Cheesey and gloatey sound like dicks and the above options Of asking them to be nicewill only get him more ridiculed. First off, please be one of the few who values their macro capabilities over their league. You should get someone to play For you and beat them so they will be quiet. If you think this suggestion is idiotic, please consider someone bragging and ridiculing someone for being in a Lower league and not 4 gating to gold or diamond.
~keep on macroing.
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Sounds more like your friends are dicks and are the type of people I ignore on bnet / irl in a heart beat.
Trolling once in awhile is fine if it's well done, but typically people who troll a lot are idiots. They can't say anything smart so they say really stupid stuff instead then go "lol i'm just trolling" and hope no one notices they don't ever say anything actually intelligent because they can't. The amusement gained from trolling is pretty simple minded too. It's the internet equivalent of "whoa whats that over there, hurr hurr made you look!"
At least that's my take on those types of people. Sounds more like a friend issue than a sc2 issue and it's pretty funny considering by most standards everyone is terrible in that group just by slightly differing degrees.
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If you know that they are trolling, you need to learn how to ignore it. Let it go in one ear and out the other. Laugh along with it, and go "you got me good." Why get mad and depress when you can be laughing at the situations. Trolling is part of middle school and high school, thats what kids like to do in school, so just learn how to ignore it.
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Seems like them two are just venting spite on the 'not-too popular' kid, sadly, for no reason at all
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Why did the structure and the grammar of your main paragraph (with the "trolling" issue) suffer so much? Looks like it was written by a different person.
Whatever, your friend sounds like a dumb little shit. Tell your group of buddies you won't play games with him until he stops being an asshole. It must be something they've noticed as well.
Edit: I thought "gloaty" was the only prick. Fuck the two of them altogether. You don't need 'em for anything.
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Asking someone why they are an asshole and saying that you will not tolerate harassment are kind of different though.
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Just get better than him and own him, I also believe you improve way more by playing a macro game.
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They sound like great friends!
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Really? Play with other people that won't text flame you.
The internet has kind of a lot of other people...
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Dear DealeR, I meant msg you sooner I've just been busy
You said you had a partner now, what division is he?
Look, I'm really flattered that you'd name your ID that
Here's a build order for Cheesy, I wrote it down here all in caps
I'm really sorry that I took so long just to PM you
don't think I did that shit intentionally just to BM you
And what's this stuff where you said about you like to use some cheese too?
I did that once in GSL, come on, how bronze league is you?
You got some issues, DealeR, I think you need some coachin
to help you from falling down the rank when using only roaches
And what's this shit about us meant to team together?
That type of shit don’t make me not want us to play each other
I really think you and your partner need each other
And maybe that can make you even better
I hope you get to see this message...I just hope it reaches you in time
before you hurt your rank, you guys will be doing just fine
If you change your strat a little, I'm glad I inspired you, but DealeR
Why are you so mad? Try to understand that I don't want you to be so bad
I just don't want you to do some crazy shit
I saw this one thread on Team Liquid a couple weeks ago that made me sick
Some kid “all-ined” every game and always lost
Dropped a couple leagues, got mad and finally he switched to Toss
In his posts they found a cast, didn’t say who it was to
Come to think about it..his name was..it was you...Damn
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Obvious solution to this is set up a showmatch between you, cheesey, and gloaty, where you allow one of TL's resident gosus play in your stead.
Or just get a little coaching, bro.
The difference between Gold and Diamond is knowledge.
PM me, I'd be glad to talk you through a couple games.
(because I can't stand dickholes. Not because I'm into giving out charity)
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OP, how old are you? Your situation seems pretty weird and awkward, I really don't know what to think of it.
You could also become serious at the game (especially if you play so much) and just get to Diamond. If you're serious and open-minded it's ezee peezee.
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On September 26 2011 19:59 Kukaracha wrote:
OP, how old are you? Your situation seems pretty weird and awkward, I really don't know what to think of it.
You could also become serious at the game (especially if you play so much) and just get to Diamond. If you're serious and open-minded it's ezee peezee.
If you had read his entire post you would know he's 15.
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