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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 23 2011 02:43 GMT
#21
some kids & their parents don't care about education to the point that they would rather be stupid than actually learn
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Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 23 2011 02:44 GMT
#22
I always wondered how everybody didn't get ~3.5+ GPA's in high school...

Now I know.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
September 23 2011 02:45 GMT
#23
On September 23 2011 11:40 hypercube wrote:
Some of these are bad but not knowing how to read analogue clocks is really not a big deal. It's an obscure historical curiousity, you really can't fault kids for not knowing about it

Also anything except 1-4 is speciallized knowledge. If they didn't study or pay attention in class of course they're not going to know it.

I smell someone who can't read analogue clocks...

Joking of course but I do very much disagree. People should totally know how to tell time.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
September 23 2011 02:45 GMT
#24
On September 23 2011 11:40 hypercube wrote:
Some of these are bad but not knowing how to read analogue clocks is really not a big deal. It's an obscure historical curiousity, you really can't fault kids for not knowing about it

Basically, they can only tell time using their cell phone. Whether it's the kid's fault, the parent's, the school's, or someone else's, I do kinda see this as a big deal.

Also anything except 1-4 is speciallized knowledge. If they didn't study or pay attention in class of course they're not going to know it.

If they got them wrong with reasonable guesses I wouldn't think twice. But they are putting such ridiculous answers lol

A lot of people left this one blank: "Who first sailed through the straight of Magellan?"

They left it blank.
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Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
September 23 2011 02:48 GMT
#25
i always used to right down stupidly funny answers for some tests in school, maybe they were just doing that??
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 02:50:13
September 23 2011 02:48 GMT
#26

Q) Who was the first person to discover North America by boat?


Some Viking guy found it right? I know Amerigo Vespucci (sp?) named it, John Cabot did something... and Columbus assumed it was India or China (i forget). The whole thing is a mess imo.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
September 23 2011 02:49 GMT
#27
On September 23 2011 11:48 Kojak21 wrote:
i always used to right down stupidly funny answers for some tests in school, maybe they were just doing that??

If they were I would know and wouldn't have included them in this 'sample.' It's possible for every 20 crazy answers I thought they were serious about, 1 of them was intentionally crazy.... but it's not a significant percentage.
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Ssin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 02:50:53
September 23 2011 02:49 GMT
#28

4:
Q) What two theories is Charles Darwin famous for?
A) pressure

Bonus: real answer from a physics quiz also:

Q) A students walks with a speed of 2 m/s for 5 s. How far did she walk?
A) v=d/t = 5/2 = 2.5m/s


Those are my favourite two from the list. This is both hilarious and depressing at the same time. I've run across the same thing tutoring as well, and even then I wanted to be a heavy drinker.

My magic Eight-ball is telling me that if I end up going to teach (which I kind of want to...) I will need to keep a liquor store in my cellar.

Edit: I made a mistake D:
Bubelzeeb
Profile Joined September 2011
8 Posts
September 23 2011 02:54 GMT
#29
On September 23 2011 11:38 micronesia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On September 23 2011 11:34 Kid-Fox wrote:
As a student in an academic high school I feel like crying while reading these. Don't they know about the "1492 columbus sailed the ocean blue" rhyme? basic algebra to find distance with v = d/t? Darwin discovered pressure? HUH??????

may I ask what grade level you teach?

These are 16-17 year olds (as I mentioned) so they are in 11th-12th grade.

Yeah when I think back to my high school experience I can't imagine not knowing 1492. To be fair, the physics problem wasn't just basic algebra.... it was substitution. You'd think people would all know that Darwin=evolution due to all the controversy, but they don't pay attention to the outside world. You could be explaining to many of these students how their house is going to explode tonight and they still would barely be paying attention.

It's not as easy for me to give hilarious/sad examples, but some students have a lot of trouble with reading and basic reasoning skills, even after all these years in school.


Why do you think that is the case?

Australia has a somewhat more social view on education than the US but we are by no means that different. We are currently grappling with a review of the education system and so there is a lot of news about this kind of thing.

The one country that seems to get it right at the lowest cost is Finland.

Given that some of the more wayward republican nominees (Bachmann at least) are calling for an end to the Education Department, it may be that education is just not valued highly in the US.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
September 23 2011 02:54 GMT
#30
On September 23 2011 11:54 Bubelzeeb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 11:38 micronesia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On September 23 2011 11:34 Kid-Fox wrote:
As a student in an academic high school I feel like crying while reading these. Don't they know about the "1492 columbus sailed the ocean blue" rhyme? basic algebra to find distance with v = d/t? Darwin discovered pressure? HUH??????

may I ask what grade level you teach?

These are 16-17 year olds (as I mentioned) so they are in 11th-12th grade.

Yeah when I think back to my high school experience I can't imagine not knowing 1492. To be fair, the physics problem wasn't just basic algebra.... it was substitution. You'd think people would all know that Darwin=evolution due to all the controversy, but they don't pay attention to the outside world. You could be explaining to many of these students how their house is going to explode tonight and they still would barely be paying attention.

It's not as easy for me to give hilarious/sad examples, but some students have a lot of trouble with reading and basic reasoning skills, even after all these years in school.


Why do you think that is the case?

Australia has a somewhat more social view on education than the US but we are by no means that different. We are currently grappling with a review of the education system and so there is a lot of news about this kind of thing.

The one country that seems to get it right at the lowest cost is Finland.

Given that some of the more wayward republican nominees (Bachmann at least) are calling for an end to the Education Department, it may be that education is just not valued highly in the US.

No magic answer from me, but I think a lot of it does have to do with cultural values which you hinted at.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 23 2011 02:57 GMT
#31
On September 23 2011 11:09 micronesia wrote:

1:
Q) Who was the first person to discover North America by boat?
A) Titanic

2:
Q) In what year did this discovery occur? 2050bc, 1002ad, 1492ad, or 1992ad
A) 1992ad

what were the real answers? (in your system)
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
September 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#32
These kids are just trolling.
Wahaha
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 02:59:23
September 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#33
On September 23 2011 11:57 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 11:09 micronesia wrote:

1:
Q) Who was the first person to discover North America by boat?
A) Titanic

2:
Q) In what year did this discovery occur? 2050bc, 1002ad, 1492ad, or 1992ad
A) 1992ad

what were the real answers? (in your system)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Erikson 1002ad


On September 23 2011 11:59 aike wrote:
These kids are just trolling.

I wish.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#34
On September 23 2011 11:48 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +

Q) Who was the first person to discover North America by boat?


Some Viking guy found it right? I know Amerigo Vespucci (sp?) named it, John Cabot did something... and Columbus assumed it was India or China (i forget). The whole thing is a mess imo.

At around the year 1000 Erik the Red discovered greenland. His son Lief Erikson discovered newfoundland & labrador (L'Anse aux Meadows), and subsequent vikings explored up a bit into the arctic
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 03:01:10
September 23 2011 03:00 GMT
#35
On September 23 2011 11:59 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 11:57 Roe wrote:
On September 23 2011 11:09 micronesia wrote:

1:
Q) Who was the first person to discover North America by boat?
A) Titanic

2:
Q) In what year did this discovery occur? 2050bc, 1002ad, 1492ad, or 1992ad
A) 1992ad

what were the real answers? (in your system)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Erikson 1002ad


Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 11:59 aike wrote:
These kids are just trolling.

I wish.

THANK YOU
sooo many people still think that columbus discovered the US
I did a whole paper on the vikings and their discoveries in anthro last year
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 23 2011 03:03 GMT
#36
I feel bad for the person that missed the physics question. It looks like they were actually giving their best effort and they are just really bad at math (or really stupid)
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
September 23 2011 03:04 GMT
#37
On September 23 2011 12:03 BlackJack wrote:
I feel bad for the person that missed the physics question. It looks like they were actually giving their best effort and they are just really bad at math (or really stupid)

This is probably accurate lol
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 23 2011 03:06 GMT
#38
I rather kids know concepts as a whole instead of a date and a guys name, but that might just be me. You can give any kid a study guide with these questions and they can go remember it, but asking them to explain a concept is usually where you weed out the smart from the dumb.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
September 23 2011 03:07 GMT
#39
On September 23 2011 12:06 Demonace34 wrote:
I rather kids know concepts as a whole instead of a date and a guys name, but that might just be me. You can give any kid a study guide with these questions and they can go remember it, but asking them to explain a concept is usually where you weed out the smart from the dumb.

Agree. The purpose of this class is for them to pass science though... not for them to learn. Not up to me.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 23 2011 03:10 GMT
#40
On September 23 2011 11:45 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 11:40 hypercube wrote:
Some of these are bad but not knowing how to read analogue clocks is really not a big deal. It's an obscure historical curiousity, you really can't fault kids for not knowing about it

Basically, they can only tell time using their cell phone. Whether it's the kid's fault, the parent's, the school's, or someone else's, I do kinda see this as a big deal.


Well, my answer was a bit tongue in cheek. But the question is whether we see this as something necessary to function in society or purely encyclopedic knowledge.

And I feel like the same should be asked about a ton of stuff that's taught in science classes today.

Not sure how it works in the US but here I've seen Biology books for 14 year olds that describes different functions in different brain regions. Why?

I remember we were taught about the specific industrial processes used to create Aluminium from bauxit (not sure if that's the English word). Two of them!

The physics problem shows what a think kids should actually be learning about. How to switch between more formal and more common sense ways of thinking. But you probably can't because you are required to teach them about facts that they have no interest in and no use for.
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