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MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:42:11
September 15 2011 05:38 GMT
#1
I know there's a million of these but alot of them are months old and gear for their own budget+their own things they want for a pc and also was wondering if any new computers that came out recently that could run it. I'm not looking for a 2k gaming laptop.

I just want the cheapest computer that will be able to run sc2 on lowest and be able to play it smoothly without any issues at all. But for the time being I'm willing to look at several price ranges. I just don't wanna waste money on a computer and pay extra for all the fancy things that come with it. I just want to be able to play sc2 and nothing else.

Also this will be a computer that will only be used for sc2 and nothing else. Maybe I might have to build one but I'm scared becuz I know nothing about computers. And also if there are any computers that were released recently that has what i described i'd like to know about it too.

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We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 05:53:47
September 15 2011 05:52 GMT
#2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
i3 2100 $125

you could probably go cheaper if you wanted to. is 500 a PC budget or just for cpu...

also, are you confusing cpu for PC? i read your post 3 or 4 more times and drooled on my keyboard
commiboi
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States74 Posts
September 15 2011 05:58 GMT
#3
I think in general, for CPU get i3 or better, and for graphics card, check it up on notebookcheck.com
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:18:43
September 15 2011 06:13 GMT
#4
On September 15 2011 14:52 DanceCommander wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
i3 2100 $125

you could probably go cheaper if you wanted to. is 500 a PC budget or just for cpu...

also, are you confusing cpu for PC? i read your post 3 or 4 more times and drooled on my keyboard

LOL. Is cpu like the complete package like monitor+mouse included? I only need the desktop or the "box." Wait I know PC stand for personal computer but what is the differnce lol.

And that link u gave me is seoulsy cheap but I'm guessing u gave me one "part" of the desktop without graphics card or anything? The thing about building computers is i know nothing about it and I feel un-easy doing it myself

edit: i thought cpu was just a shorter way of saying "computer." And computer as in not a laptop so comes with moniotr+mous+keyboard+desktop so yea was talking about PC lol. sorry for the conufusion.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:14:55
September 15 2011 06:13 GMT
#5
i dont have notebook but my cpu is amd athon x6 T1100 black edition with Geforce 560ti overclocked and my sc2 still runs like shit. so idk brosif -_-;

can only run on low settings so my computer doesnt over heat. My GPU company has said its not the GPU's fault and blizzard agreed, and blizzard doesnt know why. Awesome T_T so idk what to tell you honestly.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
September 15 2011 06:24 GMT
#6
On September 15 2011 15:13 strength wrote:
i dont have notebook but my cpu is amd athon x6 T1100 black edition with Geforce 560ti overclocked and my sc2 still runs like shit. so idk brosif -_-;

can only run on low settings so my computer doesnt over heat. My GPU company has said its not the GPU's fault and blizzard agreed, and blizzard doesnt know why. Awesome T_T so idk what to tell you honestly.

I really don't want this happening to me that's why I made this blog so I can buy a decent computer from the get-go instead of worrying about problems later on :/.

We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:37:02
September 15 2011 06:30 GMT
#7
Is $500 your absolute maximum?

How much are you willing to pay, $500 will usually get you the bare minimum, which includes software and a low end processor (most store bought PCs at this price come with a core i3 which is fine, and integrated graphics (BAD))

If you are really concerned about price and building it yourself, I'd recommend buying a PC with an i3-2100 in it and spend some extra money on a discrete graphics card ($100-120 will get you a quality card that can run SC2 very well).

Of course many of the power supplies that come with $500 computers are really crappy, so make sure you know what it is capable of before buying a graphics card.

edit: The Radeon 6770 Is a pretty low power card that would be able to run SC2 on ultra for $125. If you really, really don't want to go above low. you might be able to settle with a 5670 for $75



MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:44:57
September 15 2011 06:43 GMT
#8
On September 15 2011 15:30 phant wrote:
Is $500 your absolute maximum?

How much are you willing to pay, $500 will usually get you the bare minimum, which includes software and a low end processor (most store bought PCs at this price come with a core i3 which is fine, and integrated graphics (BAD))

If you are really concerned about price and building it yourself, I'd recommend buying a PC with an i3-2100 in it and spend some extra money on a discrete graphics card ($100-120 will get you a quality card that can run SC2 very well).

Of course many of the power supplies that come with $500 computers are really crappy, so make sure you know what it is capable of before buying a graphics card.

edit: The Radeon 6770 Is a pretty low power card that would be able to run SC2 on ultra for $125. If you really, really don't want to go above low. you might be able to settle with a 5670 for $75




Forget the price cap for now. I wanna see the various price ranges as long as it fits the criterion i posted in the OP. But is it really that expensive even to play on low settings?

I heard many times about needing an i2 or i3 so I will def keep this in mind becuz currently I have a dual core and I don't think it will be good enough for sc2.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 06:49:19
September 15 2011 06:48 GMT
#9
On September 15 2011 15:43 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 15:30 phant wrote:
Is $500 your absolute maximum?

How much are you willing to pay, $500 will usually get you the bare minimum, which includes software and a low end processor (most store bought PCs at this price come with a core i3 which is fine, and integrated graphics (BAD))

If you are really concerned about price and building it yourself, I'd recommend buying a PC with an i3-2100 in it and spend some extra money on a discrete graphics card ($100-120 will get you a quality card that can run SC2 very well).

Of course many of the power supplies that come with $500 computers are really crappy, so make sure you know what it is capable of before buying a graphics card.

edit: The Radeon 6770 Is a pretty low power card that would be able to run SC2 on ultra for $125. If you really, really don't want to go above low. you might be able to settle with a 5670 for $75



Forget the price cap for now. I wanna see the various price ranges as long as it fits the criterion i posted in the OP. But is it really that expensive even to play on low settings?


When you buy a computer, the bare bones components + software usually comes to about $4-500 or so. This includes case, hard drive, memory, cd/dvd drive, mouse, keyboard, etc. etc. The really crappy stuff can be cheaper. Anything beyond that goes directly into more power. So buying low end will give you the least bang for your buck and I never recommend it. Spending as little as $150 more can increase your systems power by A LOT.

The big money sink for low end computers is windows, which can run you over $100.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
September 15 2011 07:08 GMT
#10
On September 15 2011 15:30 phant wrote:
Is $500 your absolute maximum?

How much are you willing to pay, $500 will usually get you the bare minimum, which includes software and a low end processor (most store bought PCs at this price come with a core i3 which is fine, and integrated graphics (BAD))

If you are really concerned about price and building it yourself, I'd recommend buying a PC with an i3-2100 in it and spend some extra money on a discrete graphics card ($100-120 will get you a quality card that can run SC2 very well).

Of course many of the power supplies that come with $500 computers are really crappy, so make sure you know what it is capable of before buying a graphics card.

edit: The Radeon 6770 Is a pretty low power card that would be able to run SC2 on ultra for $125. If you really, really don't want to go above low. you might be able to settle with a 5670 for $75




Ok I'll get this then
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

Will it compliment well with this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

The first guy who responded to my blog gave me this link and it's a i3-2100 but are both of these just parts of the desktop that I have to assemble myself somehow?
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
September 15 2011 07:34 GMT
#11
What resolution? 1920x1080? Skimping out on resolution will make it harder to play, that's all.

What I would recommend for low at 1080p:
CPU - i3-2100 $125 (You can skimp on this and the mobo, but if you want to be able to play any sc2 at a good framerate, this will definitely be enough, and the savings with a lower sandybridge will be small)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

Motherboard - ASRock H61M $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157255

GPU - Radeon 6770 as above $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131434

Memory - Kingston 4GB stick $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139398

PSU - ask/PM Skyr on this one :D

Case - Your preference, this one would suffice for $40 (but it's fugly)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203

Monitor - 21.5 inch monitor $120 (for 1080p, cant go smaller without lowering res)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824262011

HDD - 500GB 7200rpm drive $40 (unfortunately smaller isn't really cheaper here)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603 600171889&IsNodeId=1&name=IntelliPower

CD-ROM Drive - Erm, struggling to find one in stock on newegg, not that hard to find anyways

Mouse and Keyboard are up to you, can go el cheapo for a crap one of each, or get nicer ones - personal preference really.

Assembly isn't long, and make sure to get Skyr to look over it before you buy it, I might have missed something

Totals $517 minus psu and mouse/keyboard/cd drive (~$20 anyways)

If you want cheaper you can get a smaller screen with lower res (harder to play on), MAYBE a llano system (its a different cpu and mobo), but I cant find good benchmark info on it, and weaker GPU. Also, going caseless and just having the components on the desk might work, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Best way to save would be to buy a rig and screen for ~$400-500 pre used if you get lucky.
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MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 07:57:34
September 15 2011 07:56 GMT
#12
On September 15 2011 16:34 Rollin wrote:
What resolution? 1920x1080? Skimping out on resolution will make it harder to play, that's all.

What I would recommend for low at 1080p:
CPU - i3-2100 $125 (You can skimp on this and the mobo, but if you want to be able to play any sc2 at a good framerate, this will definitely be enough, and the savings with a lower sandybridge will be small)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

Motherboard - ASRock H61M $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157255

GPU - Radeon 6770 as above $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131434

Memory - Kingston 4GB stick $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139398

PSU - ask/PM Skyr on this one :D

Case - Your preference, this one would suffice for $40 (but it's fugly)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203

Monitor - 21.5 inch monitor $120 (for 1080p, cant go smaller without lowering res)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824262011

HDD - 500GB 7200rpm drive $40 (unfortunately smaller isn't really cheaper here)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603 600171889&IsNodeId=1&name=IntelliPower

CD-ROM Drive - Erm, struggling to find one in stock on newegg, not that hard to find anyways

Mouse and Keyboard are up to you, can go el cheapo for a crap one of each, or get nicer ones - personal preference really.

Assembly isn't long, and make sure to get Skyr to look over it before you buy it, I might have missed something

Totals $517 minus psu and mouse/keyboard/cd drive (~$20 anyways)

If you want cheaper you can get a smaller screen with lower res (harder to play on), MAYBE a llano system (its a different cpu and mobo), but I cant find good benchmark info on it, and weaker GPU. Also, going caseless and just having the components on the desk might work, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Best way to save would be to buy a rig and screen for ~$400-500 pre used if you get lucky.

Ok so after I buy all those parts, am I required to put them together myself without any instructions? (probably an obvious question) Man..I really dont feel comfortable trying to put together a comp with 0 knowledge.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
PrObeLife
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia22 Posts
September 15 2011 08:03 GMT
#13
wow so much bad advice..i3 processor?? The guy specified he wanted "smoothly" without ANY issues as all.

To me that means perfectly smooth 200/200 collosi vs 200/200 zergling battle on creep and still being able to force field as smooth(no delay or choppy) as if there were only 2 units on screen. Nothing worse than hardware losing you games.

For no issues your looking at a i5 2500K (I have it) which can be overclocked as well. Don't waste your time with the older generation CPU's. If you want performance, sometimes u do need to pay whatever it takes..its much worse to spend $200-300 less and have slight performance issues..go all the way and get what u really need. Don't risk it IMO.

GL

Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 08:21:41
September 15 2011 08:18 GMT
#14
On September 15 2011 17:03 PrObeLife wrote:
wow so much bad advice..i3 processor?? The guy specified he wanted "smoothly" without ANY issues as all.

Dude an i3 2100 is OVERKILL for low, as a previous poster specified. My build will easily run low settings for 1v1 and 2v2 at ~60 fps min, even 4v4 shouldn't be too bad (easily playable, but meh)


To me that means perfectly smooth 200/200 collosi vs 200/200 zergling battle on creep and still being able to force field as smooth(no delay or choppy) as if there were only 2 units on screen. Nothing worse than hardware losing you games.


Yep, should run at ~40 fps at 200/200, sandy bridge is a really efficient architecture, and sc2 only runs on two cores max.


For no issues your looking at a i5 2500K (I have it) which can be overclocked as well. Don't waste your time with the older generation CPU's. If you want performance, sometimes u do need to pay whatever it takes..its much worse to spend $200-300 less and have slight performance issues..go all the way and get what u really need. Don't risk it IMO.

I have an i5-2500k as well, and the i3-2100 is the SAME GENERATION as the 2500k. It runs at 3.1 gHz, making it better for sc2 than the 6 core 4 GHz thuban from amd, due to its way more efficient architecture.

Believe me when i say my build is overkill for low OP, but you may not want to run at 1920x1080, in which case you can skimp even more on the gpu, as well as get a cheaper monitor. People recommending more than an i3 or the gpu i listed do not know what they are talking about.

EDIT: also the two cpu's you linked earlier are the same component. If you have doubts, you can generally get it built for around $50 if you are completely technologically retarded. But even I managed to put mine together, just follow advice on the internet (it's not hard to find).

And before buying, run it through with Skyr or JingleHell, both know what they are talking about and can be found in the tech support forum (where this belongs really).
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 12:42:12
September 15 2011 12:30 GMT
#15
PrObeLife is not knowledgeable and is the one giving bad advice. Starcraft II doesn't utilize four cores so having a 2500k which is a quad core as opposed to a core i3 2100 which is a dual core makes no difference at all. The only difference between the two you'll see in Starcraft Ii comes from the difference in the amount of cache and the frequency they run at. Not to mention that both the core i3 2100 and core i5 2500k are Sandybridges and was released alongside each other back in January of this year. Old architecture would be Bloomfield which is the core i7 900 series or Lynfield which is the three digit core i3, core i5, and core i7s (ex core i3 540, core i5 750).

The core i3 2100 is also not the best option either. The Pentium G850 which is basically identical to that of the core i3 2100 without the hyperthreading. Since Starcraft II majorly uses two cores and most other games do as well, you're get practically the same performance out of a Pentium G850 as you do with the core i3 2100 for less money. If you really needed a quad, you would be going with a core i5 2300 at bare minimum.

The CPU (Central Processing Unit) is only one component that makes up a desktop (the box). Other components which make up the desktop include the graphics card, memory, motherboard, power supply, harddrive, case, and optical drive.

All components (except those labeled as OEM) will come with specific instructions. The motherboard manual will have instructions for every single piece of component. There is also google and youtube. Every component (except the front panel headers) only fit in one way so its like building lego, real simple.

You're basically looking at around $300-400 for a complete package capable of playing Starcraft II on low. A $500 configuration like Rollin showed you can do the game on high-ultra at 1080p.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
September 15 2011 13:30 GMT
#16
On September 15 2011 21:30 skyR wrote:
A $500 configuration like Rollin showed you can do the game on high-ultra at 1080p.


I really need a better name >.>, it sounds so stupid...
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 15 2011 13:39 GMT
#17
Don't worry, I'm named after a yogurt.
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
September 15 2011 14:48 GMT
#18
On September 15 2011 22:30 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 21:30 skyR wrote:
A $500 configuration like Rollin showed you can do the game on high-ultra at 1080p.


I really need a better name >.>, it sounds so stupid...


No it does not. My comp is ~$750 with AMD Ahton x6 T1100 black edition (one of their best products) with a geforce 560ti (manufactured over clocked). I started playing with a $550 comp and it didnt even run medium-high smoothly.
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
September 15 2011 14:49 GMT
#19
On September 15 2011 16:56 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 16:34 Rollin wrote:
What resolution? 1920x1080? Skimping out on resolution will make it harder to play, that's all.

What I would recommend for low at 1080p:
CPU - i3-2100 $125 (You can skimp on this and the mobo, but if you want to be able to play any sc2 at a good framerate, this will definitely be enough, and the savings with a lower sandybridge will be small)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

Motherboard - ASRock H61M $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157255

GPU - Radeon 6770 as above $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131434

Memory - Kingston 4GB stick $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139398

PSU - ask/PM Skyr on this one :D

Case - Your preference, this one would suffice for $40 (but it's fugly)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203

Monitor - 21.5 inch monitor $120 (for 1080p, cant go smaller without lowering res)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824262011

HDD - 500GB 7200rpm drive $40 (unfortunately smaller isn't really cheaper here)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603 600171889&IsNodeId=1&name=IntelliPower

CD-ROM Drive - Erm, struggling to find one in stock on newegg, not that hard to find anyways

Mouse and Keyboard are up to you, can go el cheapo for a crap one of each, or get nicer ones - personal preference really.

Assembly isn't long, and make sure to get Skyr to look over it before you buy it, I might have missed something

Totals $517 minus psu and mouse/keyboard/cd drive (~$20 anyways)

If you want cheaper you can get a smaller screen with lower res (harder to play on), MAYBE a llano system (its a different cpu and mobo), but I cant find good benchmark info on it, and weaker GPU. Also, going caseless and just having the components on the desk might work, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Best way to save would be to buy a rig and screen for ~$400-500 pre used if you get lucky.

Ok so after I buy all those parts, am I required to put them together myself without any instructions? (probably an obvious question) Man..I really dont feel comfortable trying to put together a comp with 0 knowledge.


It comes with instructions.. Its not hard as you think. My first time it took ~3 hours because I was so unpacking everything. You'll be fine bro!
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5546 Posts
September 15 2011 15:01 GMT
#20
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