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Fivo
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Denmark25 Posts
September 13 2011 15:26 GMT
#1
Hello!

I have been using my old ( very old ) gear for some time now. About 3 years I would believe. Now, as a 14 year old, I have saved up enough money to get a new mousepad, mouse and PC. For my old eqquipment.
1st) My mouse, it is a 5 year old office mouse, so yeah, it sucks.

2nd) My mousepad. It has loads of scratches and stuff that makes my mouse go all freaky sometimes. Other than that it is okay I guess.

3rd) My PC. Wow this is really a pile of shit. I am so surprised it can even run SCII. But it does, to a very minimum that is.





My future new eqquipment!

1st) The mouse. Hell yeah, after 3 years of this sucky mouse, I am getting a razer imperator. That is really gonna kick ass! Razer Imperator

2nd) The mousepad.

After mouse seizures and shit, I am so ecxited for this to come. Razer Goliathus Control Edition

3rd) And the PC, what can I say. My normal fps is 20 -.- In the start of the game I would usually lose 5 sec cuz of lagg, and if a 200/200 army battled, I would lagg like shit! SO having a new PC that will be able to play in high with ease ( even though I will be having settings on low ) will be awesome.


So my question to u guys is.......Do you think my new gear will help me improving and playing? ( diamond level ). Thanks for reading.

"Just go kill that muthafucka!"
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
September 13 2011 15:46 GMT
#2
itll help, but it wont be iwin help. just removes annoyances like the mouse skipping and low fps
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 15:48:32
September 13 2011 15:47 GMT
#3
On September 14 2011 00:26 Fivo wrote:
Hello!

I have been using my old ( very old ) gear for some time now. About 3 years I would believe. Now, as a 14 year old, I have saved up enough money to get a new mousepad, mouse and PC. For my old eqquipment.
1st) My mouse, it is a 5 year old office mouse, so yeah, it sucks.

2nd) My mousepad. It has loads of scratches and stuff that makes my mouse go all freaky sometimes. Other than that it is okay I guess.

3rd) My PC. Wow this is really a pile of shit. I am so surprised it can even run SCII. But it does, to a very minimum that is.





My future new eqquipment!

1st) The mouse. Hell yeah, after 3 years of this sucky mouse, I am getting a razer imperator. That is really gonna kick ass! Razer Imperator

2nd) The mousepad.

After mouse seizures and shit, I am so ecxited for this to come. Razer Goliathus Control Edition

3rd) And the PC, what can I say. My normal fps is 20 -.- In the start of the game I would usually lose 5 sec cuz of lagg, and if a 200/200 army battled, I would lagg like shit! SO having a new PC that will be able to play in high with ease ( even though I will be having settings on low ) will be awesome.


So my question to u guys is.......Do you think my new gear will help me improving and playing? ( diamond level ). Thanks for reading.

You'll have trouble adjusting to the new mouse for a few hours/days, but in the end higher precision gear can only help in the longer run. Bout the mousepad - dunno how long do they last. I've been using a good mousepad and a 2$ one and dont really feel the difference(except for longevity). Well if your 3 year old computer is shit, my 6 year old(running SC2 no probs on low, just having trouble handling maxed ling/bling armies) is not even a computer anymore. And obviously, being able to handle maxed armies will help your play. : P In the end, it wont make you suddenly win all games, just a slight increase in comfort of playing.
oh, hai
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 13 2011 16:00 GMT
#4
Steelseries QCK Mass mousepad is my suggestion. Roughly 20 dollars

If you want a cheap but great mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 will be anywhere from 12 to 20 dollars top

If you're more extravagant with your mouse you can wait til the Steelseries Sensei is out, that'll surely be fairly expensive though, any of the popular Razer micel ike the Deathadder and what have you tend to be popular choices as well.

For a computer, thats a whole topic in it of itself.
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Ge0Rob
Profile Joined March 2011
England61 Posts
September 13 2011 16:09 GMT
#5
I use the same mouse + mat your plannin on getting and they are immense together, imperator just glides across the goliathus it's brilliant
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid..
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
September 13 2011 16:36 GMT
#6
You should check what the pros use instead. No one on the entire pro-scene uses an Imperator. Do you think that's because it's too expensive for Razer to give to their sponsored teams, or does it simply suck? Pick a mouse based on grip. Palm = Deathadder, Claw = Abyssus, Fingertip = Salmosa (does have prediction). There are other brands than Razer as well.

As for the PC - try finding someone to pick the parts and build it for you. 14 is probably a bit early for a first build unless you have some more experienced builder with you for assistance.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 16:58:46
September 13 2011 16:56 GMT
#7
On September 14 2011 01:00 Zlasher wrote:
Steelseries QCK Mass mousepad is my suggestion. Roughly 20 dollars

If you want a cheap but great mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 will be anywhere from 12 to 20 dollars top

If you're more extravagant with your mouse you can wait til the Steelseries Sensei is out, that'll surely be fairly expensive though, any of the popular Razer micel ike the Deathadder and what have you tend to be popular choices as well.

For a computer, thats a whole topic in it of itself.


This is an straight up honest question. If you have a decent mouse then what the hell difference does the mouse pad have?

I have a Logitech laser mouse and it works without a hitch on any surface. The only reason I have a mouse pad at all is for the wrist rest.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
September 13 2011 17:23 GMT
#8
The imperator comes with its fair share of problems... The sensor is quite bad with the liftoff issues... If its not already ordered, I would recommend holding off on the purchase.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
September 13 2011 17:30 GMT
#9
I used the Imperator for a long time. It is the wife's mouse now. Only problem I had was that it would move on its own accord if there was much vibration in the room. Otherwise, its a great mouse at least at 4500 dpi.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 13 2011 17:35 GMT
#10
On September 14 2011 01:56 deathly rat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 01:00 Zlasher wrote:
Steelseries QCK Mass mousepad is my suggestion. Roughly 20 dollars

If you want a cheap but great mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 will be anywhere from 12 to 20 dollars top

If you're more extravagant with your mouse you can wait til the Steelseries Sensei is out, that'll surely be fairly expensive though, any of the popular Razer micel ike the Deathadder and what have you tend to be popular choices as well.

For a computer, thats a whole topic in it of itself.


This is an straight up honest question. If you have a decent mouse then what the hell difference does the mouse pad have?

I have a Logitech laser mouse and it works without a hitch on any surface. The only reason I have a mouse pad at all is for the wrist rest.


I had a scummy old generic mousepad for years. So I bought the thick QcK pad and honestly I don't feel any difference in tracking. The only difference is personal comfort I think. And I like soft thick pads because resting your wrist on a hard surface for a long period of time will start to hurt. Some people like hard pads because they like the "gliding" feel of it.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 13 2011 17:43 GMT
#11
On September 14 2011 01:56 deathly rat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 01:00 Zlasher wrote:
Steelseries QCK Mass mousepad is my suggestion. Roughly 20 dollars

If you want a cheap but great mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 will be anywhere from 12 to 20 dollars top

If you're more extravagant with your mouse you can wait til the Steelseries Sensei is out, that'll surely be fairly expensive though, any of the popular Razer micel ike the Deathadder and what have you tend to be popular choices as well.

For a computer, thats a whole topic in it of itself.


This is an straight up honest question. If you have a decent mouse then what the hell difference does the mouse pad have?

I have a Logitech laser mouse and it works without a hitch on any surface. The only reason I have a mouse pad at all is for the wrist rest.


The thickness of a QCK Mass/Heavy is good because it creates a more even surface, and a lot of the mousepad has to do with friction. I use a fairly low sensitivity due to my old FPS days so having a large surface to work with (QCK Mousepads are fairly large), and having a good even high friction surface combined with fresh feet on the mouse is always a nice thing to have.

Also cloth pads won't wear out the feet on your mice. There are a lot of benefits to a high quality mousepad. Obviously it won't turn you from a platinum to a masters league player or anything, but its just a nice set of tools to work with.
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Misillusion
Profile Joined April 2010
46 Posts
September 13 2011 18:24 GMT
#12
I prefer paper mousepads. I generally use one of those 70 sheet spiral notebooks they sell in office depot for like, 10 cents each or something. hard surfaces have too much glide, cloth seems to give too much friction (for me).
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
September 13 2011 19:07 GMT
#13
You might still find piss-cheap Salmosas around.
The best / chillest mouse!

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dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
September 13 2011 19:28 GMT
#14
I would advise against the imperator.
Deathadder/zowie EC1/2 are much better picks
qck mousepad will do you fine sir
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
September 13 2011 19:34 GMT
#15
to answer your question, yes it will improve your game and you will enjoy the game alot more when playing.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
September 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#16
I also use Steelseries QCK/Razer Salmosa and never saw better than this. I used all sorts of mouse and small "fingertip grip" ones are really the best for RTS and general uses.
Brood War is forever
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
September 13 2011 21:00 GMT
#17
good choices OP. your new setup will pwn. i use the goliathus and i can't recommend it enough. upgraded from a beat up QcK as well.
The Show of a Lifetime
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
September 13 2011 21:41 GMT
#18
On September 14 2011 01:56 deathly rat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 01:00 Zlasher wrote:
Steelseries QCK Mass mousepad is my suggestion. Roughly 20 dollars

If you want a cheap but great mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 will be anywhere from 12 to 20 dollars top

If you're more extravagant with your mouse you can wait til the Steelseries Sensei is out, that'll surely be fairly expensive though, any of the popular Razer micel ike the Deathadder and what have you tend to be popular choices as well.

For a computer, thats a whole topic in it of itself.


This is an straight up honest question. If you have a decent mouse then what the hell difference does the mouse pad have?

I have a Logitech laser mouse and it works without a hitch on any surface. The only reason I have a mouse pad at all is for the wrist rest.


It depends on how bad the generic mousepad youre using is. I have a deathadder on a QCK right now and it feels much more smooth than my old one, which had a more sticky feel to it. Yeah itll work fine on any surface, but the right mousepad will make it feel better.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
September 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#19
On September 14 2011 01:56 deathly rat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 01:00 Zlasher wrote:
Steelseries QCK Mass mousepad is my suggestion. Roughly 20 dollars

If you want a cheap but great mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 will be anywhere from 12 to 20 dollars top

If you're more extravagant with your mouse you can wait til the Steelseries Sensei is out, that'll surely be fairly expensive though, any of the popular Razer micel ike the Deathadder and what have you tend to be popular choices as well.

For a computer, thats a whole topic in it of itself.


This is an straight up honest question. If you have a decent mouse then what the hell difference does the mouse pad have?

I have a Logitech laser mouse and it works without a hitch on any surface. The only reason I have a mouse pad at all is for the wrist rest.


Consistency. The mouse pad is portable - your desk is not and you're going to want the same surface texture both at LAN and at home. Your mouse feet will also be worn down if you ever play at a rough textured surface and without feet friction will increase.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
September 13 2011 22:01 GMT
#20
im exactly the same as you. Diamond player and my pc holds me back (i already have the MX518 mouse and steelseries pad) but my fps sucks so much. I CANNOT get to late game against zerg especially and i can hardly even attack on creep really. Im looking into getting a new rig cos i think its bound to help. It affects the way i play. I think 'right i gotta go all in off 2 base cos of lag -_-'
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
September 13 2011 23:22 GMT
#21
Don't don't don't buy a plastic mousepad. Instead, get a good cloth pad like the Qck+ or any xtrac pad; plastic pads wear down your mouse feet quickly, and since the imperator is so expensive it is not a mouse you will want to be replacing yearly.
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