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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 18:24:56
September 11 2011 18:22 GMT
#41
On September 12 2011 02:12 Tatari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 19:41 DrainX wrote:
if you want non-sparkly water you just poor some from the tap. I don't know anyone who would buy bottled non-sparkly water when you can get the same stuff for free at the nearest tap.


Oh my god... I never thought about it like this before.

America should really follow this example


Well, the problem with tap water is that the taste differs from city to city (or even from house to house).

In the north (Hamburg and Flensburg) it was really good and sometimes when i don't want to bother with buying something to drink, i just fill a bottle with tap water and drink that all weekend.
However, in Munich it tasted so horrible that i actually bought non-sparkly water (aka still water).

On September 12 2011 01:01 beg wrote:
as a sidenote... i don't use deodorant at all anymore. or even worse: anti-transpirant.


i figured out people actually don't start to smell if they take a daily shower. not even after a profoundly sweaty sport session. not even then! think about it... (no showering after the sport session, just changing clothes)


It depends on the person. Personally, i don't even start to smell after sport sessions, but i know several people that shower twice a day and still start to smell even without doing any sports.



To MrBitter:
It's really fun to read what people from the states think about germany, though i still think you need to work on your purchasing-skills, i can't understand a lot of the things you complained about, like not being able to find good choclatemilk or grape juice as they are available in every single store in my area and it's not choclatewater either.

Also, it's interesting to learn that traveling by train is actually an important childhood memory for you... for me it's "well, did that a thousand times, whats so special about it?". I think it was 2002 or 2003 where i traveled a total of about 100'000 km by train in that year alone and never found it to be anything special (and the delays aren't as bad as a lot of people say). And there wasn't a single year from my birth on where i didn't sit in a train a few times.
The US should really work on it's train system. Yeah, they are a lot slower than planes but they are also 10 times more relaxing (mostly due to no check-in/check-out).

About the stairs, they can be annoying even for germans that are used to them. About 7 years ago i spent 1.5 years every workday going down 132 steps in the morning and 132 steps up in the evening after work. I think at that time i was in the best physical condition in my life.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
September 11 2011 18:32 GMT
#42
Jesus Christ, this blog makes me moody.

I'd kill to go to Germany. Heck, I'd go right this second if I could...

I've never had sparkly water. What is it? Is it like soda? Drinking water straight from the tap is a privilege several countries can offer. I wish it was like that here in America, but guess we'll have to stick to our weekly supply of bottled water.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
September 11 2011 18:42 GMT
#43
On September 12 2011 03:22 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 02:12 Tatari wrote:
On September 11 2011 19:41 DrainX wrote:
if you want non-sparkly water you just poor some from the tap. I don't know anyone who would buy bottled non-sparkly water when you can get the same stuff for free at the nearest tap.


Oh my god... I never thought about it like this before.

America should really follow this example


Well, the problem with tap water is that the taste differs from city to city (or even from house to house).

In the north (Hamburg and Flensburg) it was really good and sometimes when i don't want to bother with buying something to drink, i just fill a bottle with tap water and drink that all weekend.
However, in Munich it tasted so horrible that i actually bought non-sparkly water (aka still water).

Exactly. Even in the same house it can taste different, it depends on the tap as well.

The south has a much higher amount of calcium carbonate, so it's better to filter the water unless you like that terrible-tasting water.
oberhofer
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany98 Posts
September 11 2011 19:01 GMT
#44
On September 12 2011 03:32 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Jesus Christ, this blog makes me moody.

I'd kill to go to Germany. Heck, I'd go right this second if I could...

I've never had sparkly water. What is it? Is it like soda? Drinking water straight from the tap is a privilege several countries can offer. I wish it was like that here in America, but guess we'll have to stick to our weekly supply of bottled water.


Sparkly water is basically just water with gas. Soda-water if you so desire
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Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
September 11 2011 19:46 GMT
#45
On September 11 2011 22:50 Carmac wrote:
Germans also eat currywurst which is a very very averagely-tasting sausage with some kind of tomato ketchupy sauce and curry dust on top. I do not understand. Nor do I understand french fries with mayonnaise.


Funny you should mention that. My girlfriend(bavarian) went on a student exchange program to Poland and the family she stayed with ate nothing but cabbage rolls which she loathes. So after three days of barely eating they went out for pizza, potentially saving her from starvation. So the pizza comes to the table and she's super fucking excited, but guess what. There is a 2cm thick layer of curry ketchup covering the whole thing.

I found the sparkling water really annoying too. There is nothing worse than being hot and sweaty at 35 degrees wanting nothing more than the biggest glass of cold water to chug but all there is available is warm sparkling water that burns the whole time you drink it. It's so unsatisfying. The first few first days staying at the GF's parents, they thought I was drinking tap water to be polite rather than drinking their bought water

Germans don't refrigerate anything, and their refrigerators aren't even kept at a cold temperature. Not a huge problem for food because they usually shop for groceries almost daily. But again, there is never anything cold to drink. 25 degree orange/apple juice from the counter is fucking nasty. I had to buy ice cube trays(also hard to find, thank god for real) for her parents house. They are probably still filled with the ice I put in them a couple years ago. Germans will always tell you that the cellar keeps the beer and juice cold enough, don't believe that propaganda and come with ice cube trays!

I don't mind Spezi or Mezzo mix, aside from the fact that it's warm. Radler on the other hand is a foul abomination. I weep when I sit in the holy land of beer and there are tables upon tables in the beer garden drinking that swill.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
September 11 2011 20:16 GMT
#46
On September 12 2011 04:46 Myrkskog wrote:
Germans don't refrigerate anything, and their refrigerators aren't even kept at a cold temperature. Not a huge problem for food because they usually shop for groceries almost daily. But again, there is never anything cold to drink.

Huh? What are you talking about oO
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15364 Posts
September 11 2011 20:19 GMT
#47
Hahaha this is so true Myrkskog. And don't get me started on the lack of air conditioning everywhere. Summer can be hell here with the German's apparent hate for coolness.
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vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
September 11 2011 20:38 GMT
#48
Everyone I know refrigerates their drinks and I don't think that the refrigerators are colder in other countries ...
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
September 11 2011 20:54 GMT
#49
On September 12 2011 05:16 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 04:46 Myrkskog wrote:
Germans don't refrigerate anything, and their refrigerators aren't even kept at a cold temperature. Not a huge problem for food because they usually shop for groceries almost daily. But again, there is never anything cold to drink.

Huh? What are you talking about oO


Maybe he means the things in the shop, we have hardly drinks in a fridge, just a few for "on the way", because there is no reason to cool the beer, water, coke etc in the shop when you carry it in your hot car to heat it up again on the way home just a way of wasting energy.

@Mr. Bitter: just send Rotti shopping, he should be good in meanwhile

French Fries with Mayo is not normal in the south part of Germany and if you want something to drink, Schorle and Radler gonna help you.
Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
September 11 2011 21:31 GMT
#50
It may have been a phenomenon of the town I was staying in. The sparkling water, juice, and pop were all kept on the counter in the homes I went to, even after opening. The only thing that was refrigerated was the milk.
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
September 11 2011 22:15 GMT
#51
On September 12 2011 05:19 zatic wrote:
Hahaha this is so true Myrkskog. And don't get me started on the lack of air conditioning everywhere. Summer can be hell here with the German's apparent hate for coolness.

Seriously the lack of proper air condition is ridicolous. How can you be expected to work efficiently in a 30°C room.

@fridges.
I don't remember a single parents houshold were the frigdes were on a cool setting. Normally something like 7°C.
Apperently it's not really healthy to drink to cold drinks, also there is some food you don't want to be to cool like butter (obviously), cheese or imported fruit that still need to mature.
That's why you normally have 3 compartements ( -20°, ~0°(for stuff like vegetables), and the main compartement with something like 5°-7°.
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
September 11 2011 22:28 GMT
#52
no one I know just keeps their beer in the cellar or something wtf :D
u must've met some strange people ^^

everyone I know also has a fridge with three parts like aqui described above
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oberhofer
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany98 Posts
September 11 2011 23:03 GMT
#53
There is no air conditioning in Germany because 1. rarely is it really hot outside and 2. rarely does it get really hot inside. From my experience, unless you live in the appartment below the roof building isolation is very good in Germany and it rarely gets to a point where you can't stand the heat any more.
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MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
September 13 2011 10:54 GMT
#54
most german houses are build from stone instead of wood, so there's a lot of places that just don't need air conditioning. However this lack of air conditioning then also transfers to buildings that would actually need them, there's just not such a big market for that here due to a lot of houses not needing them.

regarding fridges: it's true most fridges run around 7°C, and most households also have a freezer (either integrated into the fridge or separately in the basement or whatever) at around -18°C. What's the "standard" temp for american fridges? oO
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
September 13 2011 12:28 GMT
#55
MrBitter and Rotterdam do a great job at casting and make their shows entertaining and educational to watch. You have a good synergy going and I enjoy your mixture of jokes and explanations a lot. You also do a great job and talking and casting. Damn I was sitting exciting in my chair and yelling/laughing when you coached Rotterdam on Zerg and he got promoted. That was a great moment, thank you for your dedication and keep it up!

Candyshop for the win.
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 12:49:09
September 13 2011 12:30 GMT
#56
On September 12 2011 07:15 aqui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 05:19 zatic wrote:
Hahaha this is so true Myrkskog. And don't get me started on the lack of air conditioning everywhere. Summer can be hell here with the German's apparent hate for coolness.

Seriously the lack of proper air condition is ridicolous. How can you be expected to work efficiently in a 30°C room.

@fridges.
I don't remember a single parents houshold were the frigdes were on a cool setting. Normally something like 7°C.
Apperently it's not really healthy to drink to cold drinks, also there is some food you don't want to be to cool like butter (obviously), cheese or imported fruit that still need to mature.
That's why you normally have 3 compartements ( -20°, ~0°(for stuff like vegetables), and the main compartement with something like 5°-7°.


You should put fruit into the fridge, the main purpose of a fridge is to keep the food healthy, this is accomplished better at lower temperatures.

Edit: I meant you should not put (most) fruit into the fridge.
saulbert
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany13 Posts
September 13 2011 15:22 GMT
#57
It's awesome for me when a foreigner writes about my home country. It pleases me that you like it here. Many people here don't know how lucky they are.
Keep up your good work.
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
September 13 2011 15:46 GMT
#58
I always drink Volvic, imo the best non sparkling water.
For choclate milk you should watch out for Müllermich, tastes pretty good and for grape juice get the one from Granini.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
September 13 2011 17:46 GMT
#59
On September 13 2011 21:30 kmkkmk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 07:15 aqui wrote:
On September 12 2011 05:19 zatic wrote:
Hahaha this is so true Myrkskog. And don't get me started on the lack of air conditioning everywhere. Summer can be hell here with the German's apparent hate for coolness.

Seriously the lack of proper air condition is ridicolous. How can you be expected to work efficiently in a 30°C room.

@fridges.
I don't remember a single parents houshold were the frigdes were on a cool setting. Normally something like 7°C.
Apperently it's not really healthy to drink to cold drinks, also there is some food you don't want to be to cool like butter (obviously), cheese or imported fruit that still need to mature.
That's why you normally have 3 compartements ( -20°, ~0°(for stuff like vegetables), and the main compartement with something like 5°-7°.


You should put fruit into the fridge, the main purpose of a fridge is to keep the food healthy, this is accomplished better at lower temperatures.

There's tons of fruit (and some vegetables also) that don't belong in the fridge actually.
I'm not home atm, so I can't check, but I'm pretty sure my fridge is at 4°C, fresh veggie compartment at 0°C and the freezer at -18°C. And yes I keep stuff to drink in my fridge :p

Although in principle drinking cold is not ideal, especially when it's hot (there's a reason people drink hot tea in many hot countries), I stil like it better that way.

As for air conditioning it would probably be only worth it for a couple of weeks max. in many regions of Germany
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Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
September 22 2011 09:26 GMT
#60
On September 12 2011 04:46 Myrkskog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 22:50 Carmac wrote:
Germans also eat currywurst which is a very very averagely-tasting sausage with some kind of tomato ketchupy sauce and curry dust on top. I do not understand. Nor do I understand french fries with mayonnaise.


Funny you should mention that. My girlfriend(bavarian) went on a student exchange program to Poland and the family she stayed with ate nothing but cabbage rolls which she loathes. So after three days of barely eating they went out for pizza, potentially saving her from starvation. So the pizza comes to the table and she's super fucking excited, but guess what. There is a 2cm thick layer of curry ketchup covering the whole thing.


I could understand the cabbage rolls, but it's extremely unlikely that any Polish family would eat the same thing three days in a row. Bollocks, I say!
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