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So I'm selling a Cadillac on ebay, and I get this email:
Thanks for the swift reply and will like to purchase it.Can i pay you $14,100 USD for it? i will be paying you with my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted send me your paypal email address so i can pay in right away,you can set up an account at www.paypal.com it is very easy and secure.I am a marine engineer on a rig offshore and do not have much time on me.Make sure you get back to me so that i can arrange for pick up as i will like the car to be picked,so no shipping included.I await your reply
It seemed legit, and when I searched "buying a car with paypal" i found a lot of scam info. Something where the scammer puts credit card money into a paypal account, and then cancels the credit card. Then, a strange loophole in paypal makes you in trouble (or, they get you to login to a phishing site, or they tell you they need $800 to do some kind of authorization transaction). What's more, the @blumail email address seems to pop up a lot for scammers. I believe this guys originate in the UK.
What's the most... tactful way to deal with this? Is it possibly legit? It's odd he's offering $14,100 when I said I'd be glad to take $14,000 (even though the car is worth $16,000).
 
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My first thought is if his paypal is attached to his bank account, then he has the money available. Ask him how much it would cost to wire it from his bank to yours, and say you might be willing to comp the wiring fee. That way he can't use the credit card scam, and if he doesn't have the money he'll just drop the convo.
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pinball777
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If you feel like it's a scam, then go with your gut. There isn't any reason for him to offer more than what you are asking for. No reason to spend so much money on a car if he really was on an offshore rig.
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If hes offering more than the minimum and hes taking care of shipping then its a scam. No one ever would do that EVER.
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If he wants to pick it up in person, couldn't he just... you know... write you a cheque? Give you 14000 dollars in person? Bank note?
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On September 08 2011 07:57 Belial88 wrote:So I'm selling a Cadillac on ebay, and I get this email: Show nested quote +Thanks for the swift reply and will like to purchase it.Can i pay you $14,100 USD for it? i will be paying you with my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted send me your paypal email address so i can pay in right away,you can set up an account at www.paypal.com it is very easy and secure.I am a marine engineer on a rig offshore and do not have much time on me.Make sure you get back to me so that i can arrange for pick up as i will like the car to be picked,so no shipping included.I await your reply It seemed legit, and when I searched "buying a car with paypal" i found a lot of scam info. Something where the scammer puts credit card money into a paypal account, and then cancels the credit card. Then, a strange loophole in paypal makes you in trouble (or, they get you to login to a phishing site, or they tell you they need $800 to do some kind of authorization transaction). What's more, the @blumail email address seems to pop up a lot for scammers. I believe this guys originate in the UK. What's the most... tactful way to deal with this? Is it possibly legit? It's odd he's offering $14,100 when I said I'd be glad to take $14,000 (even though the car is worth $16,000).
I will guarantee you it is not legit, 100% scam written all over it.
Scammers always word their offers as if the purchase is urgent, and they always seem to offer more than what you ask for. I've received offers that sounded similar to this (not a marine engineer at a rig offshore), but they would be "doctors who wanted to gift their wife living in another country with my (used) laptop".. what a joke.
Tell him to fuck off, and save yourself time.
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Don't let him bypass Ebay. I just bought a 1978 Trans Am off ebay and there's warnings/banners everywhere that is like DONT BYPASS EBAY and shit.
They have SOME seller/buyer protection so read up on that. TBH it sounds fake but you can always inquire for more info, etc.
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Clear scam, he's trying to pay you in USD, lol?
You should really only accept payment in eSports dollars.
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=65347
100% scam, the line:
"i will be paying you with my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted send me your paypal email address so i can pay in right away,"
shows up in a lot of hits for scam emails when googled.
If you want to fuck with him, I suggest creating an email with no personal information associated with it to start off, and then go where your imagination directs you (can give more information about this if you want to know more...).
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On September 08 2011 08:19 419 wrote:http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=65347100% scam, the line: "i will be paying you with my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted send me your paypal email address so i can pay in right away," shows up in a lot of hits for scam emails when googled. If you want to fuck with him, I suggest creating an email with no personal information associated with it to start off, and then go where your imagination directs you (can give more information about this if you want to know more...).
I fully support the idea of fucking with the guy.
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I get these all the time trying to sell my car or trying to buy a new car. It is annoying as fuck.
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Australia7069 Posts
what about you just let him pay you. dont let him pick it up until you have the money out of the account. in cash, and the paypal account closed.
that way nothing can fuck with you. If he's legit you sell a car. if he's not you just fucked him around. ezpz
or just bring up the concern with him directly and see what he says. ask to speak to him on the phone etc.
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This is how you sell your shit online.
Accept cash, in person ONLY (or money order).
Then you will never get scammed. Do not accept CHEQUES (they may be fraudulent), do not accept PAYPAL (they can cancel for up to 45 days and you will be on the hook for all of it), and do not sell your car to someone who DOES NOT LOOK at it. If you were buying a car, would YOU buy it sight unseen? Didn't think so.
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You know how I know thats probably a scam? Look at the punctuation. Its awful, no space after either a comma or a period. I know this from selling stuff on craigslist. Everytime a scammer contacts me, its always with odd punctuation (spelling is usually fine). Im not 100% why they do that.
Scam.
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
On September 08 2011 08:54 DyEnasTy wrote:
You know how I know thats probably a scam? Look at the punctuation. Its awful, no space after either a comma or a period. I know this from selling stuff on craigslist. Everytime a scammer contacts me, its always with odd punctuation (spelling is usually fine). Im not 100% why they do that.
Scam.
trace the IP -- its likely Nigerian / West African in origin, which would explain the unique punctuation.
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If he picks it up in person, get a copy of his driver's license and other info so you can prosecute
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It's a scam. Obviously. People who are on offshore rigs do not need cars. They do not buy cars while on that offshore rig. They do not go through Paypal or Western Union or a shady escrow service.
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On September 08 2011 08:13 braheem wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 07:57 Belial88 wrote:So I'm selling a Cadillac on ebay, and I get this email: Thanks for the swift reply and will like to purchase it.Can i pay you $14,100 USD for it? i will be paying you with my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted send me your paypal email address so i can pay in right away,you can set up an account at www.paypal.com it is very easy and secure.I am a marine engineer on a rig offshore and do not have much time on me.Make sure you get back to me so that i can arrange for pick up as i will like the car to be picked,so no shipping included.I await your reply It seemed legit, and when I searched "buying a car with paypal" i found a lot of scam info. Something where the scammer puts credit card money into a paypal account, and then cancels the credit card. Then, a strange loophole in paypal makes you in trouble (or, they get you to login to a phishing site, or they tell you they need $800 to do some kind of authorization transaction). What's more, the @blumail email address seems to pop up a lot for scammers. I believe this guys originate in the UK. What's the most... tactful way to deal with this? Is it possibly legit? It's odd he's offering $14,100 when I said I'd be glad to take $14,000 (even though the car is worth $16,000). I will guarantee you it is not legit, 100% scam written all over it. Scammers always word their offers as if the purchase is urgent, and they always seem to offer more than what you ask for. I've received offers that sounded similar to this (not a marine engineer at a rig offshore), but they would be "doctors who wanted to gift their wife living in another country with my (used) laptop".. what a joke. Tell him to fuck off, and save yourself time.
While I'm with you on this one and have dealt with my fair share of failure bound scams, I did in fact have a very scammish guy buy a $6,000 clock off of me from Caiifornia that was a "doctor" who wanted to send it to his daughter who's in Switzerland. Granted, I e-mailed him back and forth and was reluctant until he gave me his phone number and I could call him. Once I called him I accepted his offer and everything went smoothly from there.
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`i await your replay` is pretty typical for scammers to add at the end. A sense of urgency is also a sign of a scammer. It`s a scam.
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Emphasizing 419's link in case you didn't check it out.
""Thanks for the swift reply and will like to purchase it.Can i pay you $9,850 USD for it? i will be paying you with my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted send me your paypal email address so i can pay in right away,you can set up an account at http://www.paypal.com it is very easy and secure.I am a marine engineer on a rig offshore and do not have much time on me.Make sure you get back to me so that i can arrange for pick up as i will like the car to be picked,so no shipping included.I await your reply""
Common sense avoids scams like this.
Would you buy a car without ever seeing it or looking at it? No.
Would you pay more than the asking price of a car? No.
Would you give advice to a seller on how "quick and easy" it was to set up a Paypal account? No.
Would you have terrible grammar and sentence structure if you graduated college and started a career in engineering? We can hope not.
TLDR: It is 100% scam. It is good that you did some research online.
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I've used my email, it gives my first and last, and my phone number. My email address and phone are listed on the ebay page
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Ask how he will pick it up in person.
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On September 08 2011 08:57 419 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 08:54 DyEnasTy wrote:
You know how I know thats probably a scam? Look at the punctuation. Its awful, no space after either a comma or a period. I know this from selling stuff on craigslist. Everytime a scammer contacts me, its always with odd punctuation (spelling is usually fine). Im not 100% why they do that.
Scam. trace the IP -- its likely Nigerian / West African in origin, which would explain the unique punctuation.
I'm just gonna leave this here since it seems ironic to be quoting someone with the handle "419" and the discussion recently shifted towards messing with the scam.
http://www.419eater.com/
Its a scam-baiting site for anyone who hasn't seen it before. Basically they reply to the scam messages and their goal is to string along the scammer for as long as humanly possible and waste as much time as possible. There are some pretty hilarious stories in the archive if you haven't read them before.
OT Edit - I wouldn't mess with the sacmmer. Simply ignore the message since I think its 100% fake and they already have access to your real information.
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