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Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
September 05 2011 02:05 GMT
#1
I've always been very hard on myself. I expect a lot from myself, which leads me to not be able to let it off easy when I mess up. Whether it be a missed shot in a basketball game that leads to a loss, not getting to bed as early as I think I should, or being unkind to someone, I have a hard time moving on. My personality is very forgiving towards other people; I've never had a hard time shrugging off someone screwing me over or something like that- it's in fact very easy for me to do. But for some reason, my personality won't let me forgive myself for anything I do.

What follows is just a personal rant and sort of self-discussion to get my mind straight, because I'm just not thinking right right now. If it doesn't make much sense, I'm sorry. I'm not really writing this for everyone to read, but more for myself. That said, input can help me. I'm ready to be happy, and sick of saying that.

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What brought this blog on:

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I have some kind of eating disorder. I don't know exactly what it is, but this is the story.

A few years ago, someone called me fat, completely as a joke. I was in no way fat- I was in great shape. I had always thought that maybe I was a little big, and this got me thinking about it more. A few more jokes, and I started considering losing weight. I looked up diets and all that, and started eating less. I was 5'11" 173 pounds, very active- I played football, basketball, soccer, rugby. You name it. I lost about 12 pounds, getting down to 163. I was pretty happy with that. But something in my mind kept telling me I was fat. It didn't make sense to me, but I thought that since these thoughts were so dominating, it must be true. I kept trying to lose weight. I skipped meals. I wouldn't eat after basketball games, eating only 1200 calories, thinking that that would help me the most. Stupidly unhealthy things like that. I began losing a lot more weight, and with it muscle.

By the end of basketball season, I weighed 148, and was obsessed with food. I counted every single calorie I ate every second I had spare time, doing my best to make sure I hadn't made a mistake in how much I'd eaten, because if I ate and extra 100 calories more than I thought I should, I'd gain 5 pounds (or so I thought). I watched the Food Channel 2 hours a day at least to see food, read the ingredient list of anything I could find, obsessed with nutrition labels, asked everyone if I could cook for them so I could be around it. It was terrible.

One day, at a family reunion, I started eating. And my body kept telling me to eat more. So I did. I didn't stop. I probably ate 6,000 calories in that one sitting (not exaggerating). And I got incredibly sick. I puked all night, and continued to be sick for 2 days. I got over it, but the next week we went to Cancun, and the same thing started happening. I didn't eat as much, but with a buffet every meal, I was consuming a ton of food, with no self control. I couldn't stop myself.

The next month continued, and I was obsessed with losing the weight that I had gained, which I did. But once summer started, everything went down-hill. Over the summer, I gained 40 pounds. I stayed inside all day and played video games. I couldn't bear seeing anyone. I was so ashamed of the way I looked, and more importantly, that I had no self control.


I think what was happening was I was addicted to grains and sugars. It took me a looooong time to find out, but I've found that when I don't eat them, I can control myself like it's nothing. When I found this out and stopped eating that crap, it was a night and day difference. After a year (how long it took me to figure it out), not wanting to eat was the most alien feeling ever. I could be hungry and not feel like eating, contrasted with being so full I'm going to explode and still want to continue eating.

Anyway, when I figured this out, I started doing better, and started consistently getting back into the shape I was. I got down to 178, and thought the road was clear and I was going to be happy with myself again, when I slipped up. It was a human mistake, slipping up and eating junk. When I get off, it's the hardest thing to get going the right way again. I can't get over the fact that I screwed up, and can't stop thinking about how big of a failure that I am.

Finally, where this all ties in:

I started on the path again, and was feeling soooo good. My mind was clear. I was going to go for a full month without grains and crap, and I was doing it. I'd gone for the longest I ever have without them, and my confidence was booming. My mom brings home a ton of good healthy food from the store. I eat rasberries, bananas, carrots, blueberries, strawberries, zucchini, onions. Totally healthy stuff, and a healthy amount (I ate 1600 calories that day, little enough that I can lose weight). The next day, I get home from school, and eat similar stuff. After I'm done (ate a good amount, enough to lose weight again). I go and watch some streams, and then I get the old feeling. I need to eat crap. I find myself walking through the kitchen, catch myself, and go back to my room. After I watch another game, I get up to go to the bathroom. And end up starting eating junk.

I got so down about this. I still am. But I shouldn't be. I realize now that it's probably carbs in all forms that are doing this to me. Not just grains and sugary stuff, but too much fruits and veggies too. Now that I know that, I can just move on and do it better, because I won't eat that many carbs ever again, right? My mind just won't let me. I want to say "It's ok, move on, and this time you can do it" but my mind is stuck telling me "How could you screw up when you were doing so well?"

I feel like if I forgive myself, it'll just lead to complacency. How else am I going to step up? If I just forget and condone what's happened, I'll just stay in the same rut. But at the same time, those negative thoughts are an extremely limiting thing, right? I don't know what should win out. Forgive but don't condone, I guess. Do it for real this time. But whenever I say that, it just leads me to get down even more when I mess up. Leading myself on, thinking it's going to work, and then messing up again.

I'll give it another go, because I'm not going to quit. I'm going a full month (until October 4th) without eating crap. I think setting a tangible date will help. After that, I'm still not going to eat them. This time for real.

I think after reading this a lot of people will tell me to go see some sort of councilor or something like that. I want to prove to myself I can do this on my own- it'll make me stronger when I'm finished. I know it will. My pride won't let me have it any other way.


*****
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
supaplex
Profile Joined July 2011
United States75 Posts
September 05 2011 02:11 GMT
#2
From what Ive read you love yourself too much which overcompensates for w/e you wanted to forgive. No need to go through the trouble.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 05 2011 02:17 GMT
#3
Skimmed through it. Seek professional help.
pyaar
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
September 05 2011 02:24 GMT
#4
You stopped eating grains completely? I'm by no means an authority on nutrition, but don't you need to get at least some grain into your diet? Complex carbohydrates or some stuff like that.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
September 05 2011 02:38 GMT
#5
Dalgunoooooo, I had no idea you had problems like this.

Unfortunately (or probably fortunately I guess), I can't really relate too much so I can't really try to help. However, I make motivational paragraph.

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I think it's really really important that you genuinely believe you can do this. Going into something like this half-assedly is doomed to fail right from the start. It sounds like you're pretty selfless in that you want to help other people/can forgive them but are a lot harder on yourself. So try to think of the other people you're affecting. Your parents and your friends can't possibly feel good when they see you torturing yourself like this.

I thought of a way I can kind of relate. I've got a pretty brutal sweet tooth myself, especially for those peppermint things. I'm naturally pretty thin so there wasn't a problem there but my teeth are pretty shitty such that if I have too much sugar or whatever, they're pretty prone to going bad. So I had to go from a point where I was eating a peppermint during nearly every waking moment to now where I haven't had one in several years. It sucks but sometimes you really have to do these things (yes I know, first world problem if ever there was one ). I did just like you're doing and decided one day that I was not going to have any more ever again. But it was much easier in my case, grains and sugary stuff in general is always going to be around you and you're the only one who will ever be able to stop yourself.

In closing, just keep in mind that you're doing a lot more than just harming yourself. Pretend everything you eat that you know you shouldn't is actually a sucker punch to your mom's stomach. =)

They may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom! etc etc


On one final note, even though I know you said that you want to do this on your own without the help of a professional or anything, keep in mind that there is a point where it becomes a necessity. If you end up failing (which you better not, else I tell Catz you have cooties), you really have to seek out help. Health trumps pride 100% of the time, thats why prostate exams exist.

Ok I'm done.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
September 05 2011 02:44 GMT
#6
On September 05 2011 11:38 Bibbit wrote:
Dalgunoooooo, I had no idea you had problems like this.

Unfortunately (or probably fortunately I guess), I can't really relate too much so I can't really try to help. However, I make motivational paragraph.

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I think it's really really important that you genuinely believe you can do this. Going into something like this half-assedly is doomed to fail right from the start. It sounds like you're pretty selfless in that you want to help other people/can forgive them but are a lot harder on yourself. So try to think of the other people you're affecting. Your parents and your friends can't possibly feel good when they see you torturing yourself like this.

I thought of a way I can kind of relate. I've got a pretty brutal sweet tooth myself, especially for those peppermint things. I'm naturally pretty thin so there wasn't a problem there but my teeth are pretty shitty such that if I have too much sugar or whatever, they're pretty prone to going bad. So I had to go from a point where I was eating a peppermint during nearly every waking moment to now where I haven't had one in several years. It sucks but sometimes you really have to do these things (yes I know, first world problem if ever there was one ). I did just like you're doing and decided one day that I was not going to have any more ever again. But it was much easier in my case, grains and sugary stuff in general is always going to be around you and you're the only one who will ever be able to stop yourself.

In closing, just keep in mind that you're doing a lot more than just harming yourself. Pretend everything you eat that you know you shouldn't is actually a sucker punch to your mom's stomach. =)

They may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom! etc etc


On one final note, even though I know you said that you want to do this on your own without the help of a professional or anything, keep in mind that there is a point where it becomes a necessity. If you end up failing (which you better not, else I tell Catz you have cooties), you really have to seek out help. Health trumps pride 100% of the time, thats why prostate exams exist.

Ok I'm done.


Have I ever told you you're my favorite?

I'll take this to heart <3
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
September 05 2011 02:59 GMT
#7
Honestly, I kind of feel the same way. I eventually felt obligated to eat as often as possible at home, because the kitchen was so close. However, now that I'm in college as of last wednesday, I havent been eating enough. I don't know why, but I just am not hungry enough to go to the buffet-like cafeteria literally 10 feet from the exit of my dorm hall, which is only 5 feet from my room. I have 4 bags of potato chips, too, that my momma left with me, but I haven't gotten into them yet. I ate the most calories today than I have this week, too. I had a smallish piece of grilled chicken with bacon on a bun for lunch, two gummy worms and water for breakfast, two glasses of iced tea, and just now, a glass of caffeine-free coke. However, my roomate says that I'll eventually adjust to life here.

I think I don't eat enough because of my weight. I weighed 275 lbs two days before move-in, and my medically ideal weight is around 214 lbs. I was scared to death of the 'freshman 15' that my uncle mentioned. That, and my parents told me that if I got too fat here, they would pull me out of this 45k/year school and put me into a state school to 'better watch me'. However, I noticed for the first time that I look ridiculous in 2XL shirts, and that I can seriously get down to L shirts if I work out and eat right while I'm here. Right now, 2xl is too droopy on me, and I thought that xl was just 'unflattering' on me. As it turns out, seeing some cute chick made me realize that I look like a fatass in 2xl shirts, especially compared to xl shirts :D

Overall, I guess one thing to do is to change the location of your computer. It seriously changed what my brain thought about regarding food and such. I used to empty half a bag of chips into a small bowl for myself, and now, I look at them over in the food-crate I have and don't feel like getting them. I think it also has to do with propping my door open and letting people see me as they pass by.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ "Shift-Q oftentimes makes a capital Q" - Day[9] || iNcontrol - Alligator from heaven = ^
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
September 05 2011 03:42 GMT
#8
You wrote this for yourself? Good! Doing stuff like this when you're feeling this extreme could be of some help I guess. I'm the exact opposite of how you are. I'm extremely less forgiving but I highly believe I do it correctly. There is no way I'm going to let people treat me like shit slide, and that alone is very disrespectful to myself. If I do something wrong, yeah I beat myself up just like everyone else but I forgive myself because you know what it keeps me happy and being so angry at myself is just plain dumb.

I'd rather not touch this type of subject since it seems so delicate but would suggest professional help. Even now reading that you want to do this on your own is that pride talking. If you really feel like you can do it, then do it but if you fail? SEEK that help don't be ashamed. Pride is nothing more than a weakness to a human being IMO.
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 05 2011 03:59 GMT
#9
On September 05 2011 11:24 pyaar wrote:
You stopped eating grains completely? I'm by no means an authority on nutrition, but don't you need to get at least some grain into your diet? Complex carbohydrates or some stuff like that.


Grains are very bad for you. It irritates your gut which causes diseases like autoimmune.

Dalguno check out the health and fitness thread and ask about nutrition in there! It might help to write down a set plan on what to eat. What helps is to increase your protein and fat intake so you don't have to eat so much carbs. I always feel less hungry when I do that and my energy is a lot better.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 05 2011 04:43 GMT
#10
Pretty good book on binge eating disorder: link. It's cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) based and is a bit dry, but it's pretty good. It's two parts, the first one defines binge eating and bulimia and the second presents a six-step program for eliminating it.

One thing they stress is that all-or-nothing thinking is extremely common among those with binge eating disorders, and indeed I can hear it in your post that you are prone to this. It's important to recognize that if you fuck up and eat a candy bar, the entire day ISN'T lost and you can stop yourself before you eat everything in sight. That's been a big problem for me.

The book does try to stress that you shouldn't restrict foods, but as it's a little old I tend to not agree with this information and try to avoid grains because as you know they're not good for you.

Also, 1600 kcal isn't nearly enough--your BMR is probably well above that and doesn't factor in any movement or exercise, so eat a little bit more so you don't starve.
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
September 05 2011 07:19 GMT
#11
go cade you can do it!!! love you bro <3!
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
September 05 2011 07:24 GMT
#12
gl man, your username reminds me of delgado which means thin in Spanish >.<
god_forbids
Profile Joined October 2010
United States111 Posts
September 05 2011 09:46 GMT
#13
Congratulations, you're human! :D We all have a little voice in our head that doubts us, calls us names, puts us down, negates everything positive that we try to do, and tells use we're worthless. This little voice grabs at any negative thought that randomly passes through your head and rams it home for good measure. But you know what? You can beat it. YOU are in control of your thoughts, and therefore your emotions.

Here's how it works. You label what the voice tells you. That's your BULLY. The BULLY sucks ass, and when you hear him you tell him to go take a fucking hike. We don't need the BULLY to make us better, that's our job. How do we know what the BULLY sounds like? Well:
my personality won't let me forgive myself for anything I do.

"How could you screw up when you were doing so well?"

if I forgive myself, it'll just lead to complacency. How else am I going to step up?

If I just forget and condone what's happened, I'll just stay in the same rut.

You know what's worse than being in the same rut? Self-flagellation. Don't think that you are a failure if you can't make it to October 4th without eating "crap". Take this one day at a time, or hell, 4 hours at a time, or whatever. Set your mini goals and enjoy the triumph when you pass each one. When (not if) you fail, you put aside that 4 hour period on the fail side and look at the huge list of checks on the success side and you move on.

Now go forth and prosper.
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Shakespeare
Profile Joined August 2011
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 10:36:59
September 05 2011 10:36 GMT
#14
Your story made me think of this article I read in the news a while back, pretty heartbreaking:

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Two morbidly obese women risk losing limbs, going blind or even dying without gastric bypasses, but their district health boards will not pay for the life-changing surgery.

Lynda Sim, of Wellington, and Whanganui woman Jasmin Sciascia – along with surgeons in both centres – are calling for a national service to increase access to bariatric surgery, which is available in only a few regions.

The pair say they were given false hope by their DHBs, with hospital specialists telling them they were ideal candidates for the surgery and referring them to bariatric surgeons, before deciding their operations would not go ahead.

Bariatric surgery – which reduces the stomach's size – costs between $17,000 and $35,000 but has dramatic effects, with patients typically losing half their body mass and any weight-related health problems.

It is the only option left for many morbidly obese people unable to lose the weight other ways.

Mrs Sim, 44, was first told in 2007 that she met the criteria for consideration. She weighs 152 kilograms and has weight-related type 2 diabetes, which is robbing her of vision and means she is likely to need limbs amputated one day.

In January, Capital & Coast District Health Board said she had been selected as a candidate for publicly funded surgery at private Wakefield Hospital, where the operation would be done.

But just days before her first specialist appointment, the health board told her she had been turned down because of a cardiac condition.

The condition meant she was likely to need intensive care after the surgery, which the board could not afford. "I cried for that whole weekend," she said.

Ms Sciascia, 25, weighs 212kg and has been told by doctors she will not live to 30 without bariatric surgery.

In 2008, Whanganui DHB referred her to Wakefield Hospital and to Counties-Manukau District Health Board, but then refused to pay for the operation.

She was angry and upset that the board referred her without any intention of funding the surgery. "They should have known that it wasn't going to go anywhere."

Whanganui MP Chester Borrows and local surgeon Clive Solomon have both pleaded her case to the Whanganui board, but on May 28 it confirmed it would not pay for bariatric surgery for anyone. The Dominion Post understands Associate Health Minister Tariana Turia, who has had bariatric surgery herself, has taken a personal interest in Ms Sciascia's plight.
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In a letter to Mr Solomon, she said it was "devastating to think a young woman with so much potential is being denied a procedure which could save years of her life, and no doubt considerable expenses through the public health system". Mrs Turia said she was "disappointed ... about the lack of progress" at a national level.

Only five DHBs finance the surgery – Counties-Manukau, Auckland, Waitemata, Southern and Waikato. Capital & Coast has funded 12 patients since 2008 to have surgery at Wakefield, but decided this year to mothball its programme.

Wakefield bariatric surgeon Richard Stubbs said the service stopped because it was impossible to have a fair selection process. "Fundamentally the question became, how do you select five or seven people in a year out of probably a prospective 500?"

The original plan had been to gradually expand the service to 40 or 50 operations a year, but the DHB's financial problems had prevented that from happening, he said.

Capital & Coast's planning and funding director, Sandra Williams, said it was not an ideal situation. "We will be continuing to discuss options on a national basis with the Ministry of Health."

Professor Stubbs and Mr Solomon both said central government needed to finance bariatric surgery.

Health Minister Tony Ryall said the "inequitable geographic provision" of the surgery was concerning. The new National Health Board was "considering a response" to increase equality of access. He told Mrs Turia that response "will be communicated to DHB chief executives within weeks".

'IT'S TERRIFYING THAT I'VE GOT A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF FIVE YEARS'

As other 25-year-olds plan their futures, Jasmin Sciascia tries not to think about hers.

"It's terrifying that I've got a life expectancy of five years."

The Whanganui woman, who has been morbidly obese since she was 16, has been told she will be dead by 30 without bariatric surgery.

She was given a glimmer of hope in 2008, when Whanganui Hospital referred her to Counties-Manukau District Health Board and Wakefield Hospital for the surgery.

She met their criteria – but Whanganui District Health Board decided not to fund her.

Local surgeon Clive Solomon, who has been battling the board on her behalf, said Ms Sciascia was "essentially being denied medical care on the basis of geography".

She said she could move to the catchment in Counties-Manukau. "But that's a huge thing – to leave all the support of my family and friends – and not to mention costly, for only a possible `maybe'."

The board's argument that it could not afford the surgery did not make sense: "I must cost this hospital thousands each year – well and truly over what the surgery would cost."

If DHBs were unable to fund the surgery themselves, a national service should be established.

"It makes a lot more sense to spend the money and save in the long term. I get what they say about preventative measures, but you have got to catch people when they're smaller. Once you're this size, there's no going back from it."

Ms Sciascia is on an invalid's benefit and cannot afford the surgery.

'IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD ON OUR OWN'

By the time bariatric surgery was "dangled" in front of Lynda Sim, she was desperate for help.

Obese since childhood, the Karori mum had given up hope that she would ever be a normal weight.

She suffers from sleep apnoea, shortness of breath and type 2 diabetes, which is destroying her eyesight and raises the prospect of limb amputations in the future.

"It's a joke but it's actually quite horrible – I say to [husband] Jonathan, `In a few years you're going to have a blind, legless diabetic on dialysis, waiting for a kidney transplant."

Ms Sim cannot leave the house by herself and had to give up her career as a statistics analyst.

"When [Capital & Coast DHB] dangled this idea of being funded and having surgery and they seemed quite excited by it ... I began to think maybe my future is not as bleak as I thought it was."

But just days out from her first specialist appointment at Wakefield Hospital she was told she did not meet the criteria after all – because of a cardiac condition.

Funded surgery was her last chance.

"It's not something we would be able to afford on our own."

She had tried "everything" over the years, including regular exercise and seeing dieticians – and said she eats normal-sized, healthy, meals.

"There's the view that if you just stop eating and diet and exercise you'll lose weight – and that's not necessarily true ... I know that people are looking at me and they're making judgments. I feel ashamed."

BIG NUMBERS

An estimated 152,000 New Zealanders are morbidly obese, about 18,000 of them in the greater Wellington region.

Health Ministry figures have put the direct cost to the health sector from obesity at $460 million a year

In the 2008-09 financial year, 247 gastric bypasses were funded across all the district health boards, about half of them by Counties-Manukau. Another 400 people paid for the surgery themselves.

Wellington bariatric surgeon Richard Stubbs estimates between 500 and 700 people in Wellington alone need the surgery each year.

A 2008 report to the Health Ministry recommended the Government fund DHBs to provide bariatric surgery for 0.5 per cent of the morbidly obese population each year about 915 operations, including 99 Wellington and Hutt Valley patients.

The programme would have a net cost of $17m in the first year including $2m for the Wellington region but would drop to $11m within five years because money would be saved on other services used to treat obesity.

After a decade, the net cost to Wellington, Hutt Valley and Wairarapa DHBs would be just $60,000 a year.

- The Dominion Post

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