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Well, I think I played the most I've ever played the last 2 days and I'm actually proud of what I ended up in. Currently, I'm 1v1 Silver Rank 5 and today I played pretty much all the team games out there and got placed in the weirdest leagues ever.
Basically I went into 4v4 and played one game to get ranked. I won, got the highest score on my team (not to brag, but I pretty much carried my whole team) and got placed in Bronze. Wut.
3v3s were a bit challenging, I played one game as well and won that too with relative ease, got second on my team and got placed in Silver. Not too weird but I kind of expected it to be bronze considering how bad I did.
2v2s. Now I had to play 5 matches to get placed, so no worries, just hoping for some good teammates. But no, they were insisting on 4 gating and all-inning but I somehow won all the games except one because my teammate proxied a 2 rax IN FRONT of the other team's base. It worked for 2 minutes or so the it all went crashing. To sum it up, I was forced to cheese/all in in almost all the games (except for one where I went Zealot/Phoenix) and lost because of a stupid teammate.
I got placed in 2v2 Platinum Rank 4. LOLWUT. I don't get it, seriously.
This is more of a rant blog than anything -_-.
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yeah the blizzard league and ladder system make about 0 sense. Even if some people have deciphered the super complex way leagues are made and the algorithms that blizzard uses for placement (there are threads on it) the system sucks at actually showing who is better at the game. Like rank 4 in one league is equivalent to rank 40 in another, and with the bonus pool everyones points rises so its basically impossible to tell what ladder ranking is high or low
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Please note that team games don't really reflect your skills as an individual. I once was in a game with a master 4v4 player who was in 1v1 bronze. I'm masters 4v4 (random team) but I'm still in diamond :/
Also, I carried a bronze league friend of mine in 2v2, bam! Platinum, he was so excited.
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Yeah I figured team games were just for fun, though recently I got off a bad 6 loss streak in 1v1 so I took a break and played team games. They were helpful, as I went back into 1v1 later and got a 4 win streak, and hadn't played it since.
Bonus pool is stupid.
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okay, how the game went has no bearing on where you get placed,
so things like poinmts cheese apm all this stuff doesnt matter when u get placed 
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I think a lot of people would do well just to ignore everything about the ladder and matchmaking.
It's designed to be a carrot to keep you laddering, but some people just get way too focused on it and create mental road blocks. So if you haven't been paying attention for the last year, let me summarize:
-Rank- Means nothing until GM and has no effect on who you are matched against.
-Points- Mean nothing and have no effect on who you are matched against.
-Bonus pool- has no bearing on anything. It's there purely as a technique to keep you playing. If you give a shit about bonus pool or points in general, you have officially been suckered.
-League- A general indication of where the your MMR is at but not definitively so. You may very well have a higher MMR than someone in the league above you or vice versa. The matchmaking system does not look at league.
-Favored/Not Favored- I don't know exactly how this works, but a better question is: Why should you give a shit?
-MMR- Your 'true' skill. Hidden. You don't know what it is.
The best advice I can give you is to just ignore everything and play your games. The ladder is not screwing you. You are not in 'elo hell'. You would not be in Masters 'if only Blizzard could make a good ladder system'. Luckily, it does not require your comprehension to function.
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Its all about MMR. Favored means that somebody has more MMR than you. Being downgraded or upgraded depends on MMR. Its like every other matchmaking system like in LoL or Dota. The question is... How really is.
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On August 31 2011 13:33 Bargil wrote:
Well, I think I played the most I've ever played the last 2 days and I'm actually proud of what I ended up in. Currently, I'm 1v1 Silver Rank 5 and today I played pretty much all the team games out there and got placed in the weirdest leagues ever.
Basically I went into 4v4 and played one game to get ranked. I won, got the highest score on my team (not to brag, but I pretty much carried my whole team) and got placed in Bronze. Wut.
3v3s were a bit challenging, I played one game as well and won that too with relative ease, got second on my team and got placed in Silver. Not too weird but I kind of expected it to be bronze considering how bad I did.
2v2s. Now I had to play 5 matches to get placed, so no worries, just hoping for some good teammates. But no, they were insisting on 4 gating and all-inning but I somehow won all the games except one because my teammate proxied a 2 rax IN FRONT of the other team's base. It worked for 2 minutes or so the it all went crashing. To sum it up, I was forced to cheese/all in in almost all the games (except for one where I went Zealot/Phoenix) and lost because of a stupid teammate.
I got placed in 2v2 Platinum Rank 4. LOLWUT. I don't get it, seriously.
This is more of a rant blog than anything -_-.
They're not weird, you just don't understand them...
Basically, when you first start (Battle.net having NO record of previous games of a given game type on your account), you have to play 5 placement matches so that Blizzard can TRY to approximate your skill level by comparing them to the 5 people you played against.
I'm not 100% sure how it goes, but this is generally what happens:
0 Wins - Bronze
1 Win - Bronze (sometimes silver based on opponents played)
2 Wins - Bronze/Silver (based on opponents played)
3 Wins - Silver/Gold (based on opponents played)
4 Wins - Gold/Plat (based on opponents played)
5 Wins - Plat (sometimes diamond or masters in team games, rarely diamond in 1v1, never masters in 1v1)
USUALLY in 1v1, it takes 5 wins to get into plat... Or at least that's how it used to be... You can get lucky sometimes and do it in 4. The above pretty much applies to team games as it's stated above.
Now, when you're already ranked in one season and the ladder gets reset, you only have to play 1 placement match for seasons following that one. MOST OF THE TIME, win or lose, you get placed in the same league as before. SOMETIMES, if you are on the edge of promotion or demotion, you MIGHT get promoted or demoted based on your performance (sometimes I think it also doesn't matter if you win or lose, it'll still happen - at least for promotion).
Now, in your 4v4, you already have a history of playing bronze/silver level 4v4 players (team leagues don't translate to solo leagues). You weren't playing well enough in the last season you played in, so you weren't near promotion status. As a result, you stayed in bronze (win or lose). We could have oGsMC play on your account for that game and they still wouldn't give him anything but bronze even if his whole team went afk (he would still win, you can easily do a 1v4 until you hit diamond level 4v4, though I think MC could still pull it off). In 80-90% of the 4v4s I play, I either carry or get the highest score. Does it mean I'm getting a promotion anytime soon? Probably not, but I don't care much since it's not 1v1.
In the 3v3, same story... You were in Silver the last time you were ranked. You could've failed miserably, gotten the worst score, and all sorts of bad stuff and still make it to silver.
In 2v2, you had no record. That means Blizzard will give you increasing or decreasing skill levels based on how your team did (not you individually). If you win, you play a better team and so on and visa versa. The end result is where you get placed. You got 4 good players in a row who LED you to victory 4 times in a row (don't even try to argue this unless they dd a 10 minute 4 gate and failed miserably). You won 4 games against reasonably good team players, and got placed in plat. Granted, you got carried there, but that happens, and as you keep playing, if you play enough Blizzard will realize you need to be dropped a league or 2 unless you improve to the level you need to be at to maintain plat league status.
(Team games are most easily won by putting together powerful timing attacks to pick off enemy player(s) because your enemy was stupid enough to be greedy with their economy or tech and as a result they won't have enough units to deal with it. So if you and your ally(s) go for powerful cheeses or all-ins together and ALL of your opponents aren't ready to deal with it, you'll easily pick them off 1 by 1. It's simple really... If 2 Zergs go 6 Pool against a Zerg who 6 pools and a Zerg who 14 gas 14 pooled (or worse, 15 hatch), then the Zergs who went double 6 Pool will win unless they get severely outplayed or unlucky. Like, a person going 6 Pool doesn't have enough Drones to mineral micro against a single 6 Pool, nevermind 2. And he doesn't have enough lings to deal with both either. And if they hit the late pool player, it's MUCH harder to mineral micro against 12 lings as opposed to 6 and STILL take no losses (or very minimal losses). That's why people can actually get away with everyone on the team doing a 7 Roach rush 5 games in a row, win all 5 easily, and get placed in Master's League for 4v4. It doesn't always happen, but it's common enough that people do it knowing they can easily pull it off.)
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