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Main point of the thread aside, the ad on its own is already kind of creepy and stupid. What sort of retail shop is this O_o
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On August 29 2011 05:09 Holykitty wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 05:03 micronesia wrote:
There is a valid point to be made... but I don't think you made it. Hopefully you enjoyed this though LOL.
BTW I can't believe they expect a link to your facebook page. That's pretty ridiculous. a lot of employers these days check you out on facebook to see the 'real' you. because apparently its not good enough to be the model employee at work anymore, you have to be boring at home too :D
On August 29 2011 05:20 RyuChus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 05:03 micronesia wrote:
There is a valid point to be made... but I don't think you made it. Hopefully you enjoyed this though LOL.
BTW I can't believe they expect a link to your facebook page. That's pretty ridiculous. Actually.. some people look for it because, they want to know if they look okay, and if they were people who use bad language a lot, and stuff like that. They don't care about looks, but it's possible they are super sleezes. I learned from people at school that they do this. Guys, or girls, w.e.
Oh, they can look you up on facebook if they want. But they shouldn't ask you for the url directly in my opinion.
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Your interpretation seems way twisted. Nowhere does it say they are looking for women because they think only women can have those qualities (which is what you spend all this time addressing in your reply). They say they are looking for women, and someone who works hard. That doesn't mean they correlate those things. It's liking someone hiring for a warehouse saying-- we are looking for someone who can lift 75 lbs and who is honest. There's not a connection there, they are just looking for both qualities.
The only claim it seems you could have for sexism is the women only part, but like others have pointed out, it's really hard to know for sure until you know what kind of store it is. If you really feel like you would be a good fit for the store, you should walk in and ask to talk to the manager about it.
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On August 29 2011 05:42 RedJustice wrote:
Your interpretation seems way twisted. Nowhere does it say they are looking for women because they think only women can have those qualities (which is what you spend all this time addressing in your reply). They say they are looking for women, and someone who works hard. That doesn't mean they correlate those things. It's liking someone hiring for a warehouse saying-- we are looking for someone who can lift 75 lbs and who is honest. There's not a connection there, they are just looking for both qualities.
The only claim it seems you could have for sexism is the women only part, but like others have pointed out, it's really hard to know for sure until you know what kind of store it is. If you really feel like you would be a good fit for the store, you should walk in and ask to talk to the manager about it.
I don't think his interpretation is wrong, I think he's just trying to prove a point by matching the literal requirements with one that seems awfully arbitrary. If you'd replace female with male in the above ad, some feminist group would win a lawsuit over that shit.
Not sure what he's actually trying to achieve here though. The facebook requirements makes it seem like they just handpick their employees to be more like the ones they currently have so they have a "nice" work environment. Can be considered discrimination, but no point in trying to fight it.
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On August 29 2011 05:42 RedJustice wrote:
Your interpretation seems way twisted. Nowhere does it say they are looking for women because they think only women can have those qualities (which is what you spend all this time addressing in your reply). They say they are looking for women, and someone who works hard. That doesn't mean they correlate those things. It's liking someone hiring for a warehouse saying-- we are looking for someone who can lift 75 lbs and who is honest. There's not a connection there, they are just looking for both qualities.
The only claim it seems you could have for sexism is the women only part, but like others have pointed out, it's really hard to know for sure until you know what kind of store it is. If you really feel like you would be a good fit for the store, you should walk in and ask to talk to the manager about it.
I think this guy got it. They want women only, regardless, and they want them to have the qualities listed. The qualities you listed that were more likely to be found on men are there to make sure that the women they do hire have them, since as you said, it's less likely that women will possess them. The facebook profile thing gives them a picture to refer to, which is definitely a huge factor when the job is hiring only women.
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That was a pretty funny blog. It could be argued that a lot of your arguments were sexist... but I do agree with you lol.
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Private corporations should be able to run their businesses however they want. You don't know the specific reasons why they are looking for a female, but obviously there are reasons.
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The Facebook thing is stupid  what if I don't have one
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On August 29 2011 04:58 SpoR wrote:http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/csr/2563930125.htmlstill looking for a job and it irks me whenever I see shit like this posted on there so I finally decided to reply to one of them. Troll or whatever you want to call it, I sent the email back like this. Show nested quote +
If you are going to be sexist and ask only for females, then you need to realize that the requirements you are asking them to not have are very distinctively female traits from my experiences with girls and women (and I have had many). Perhaps you should look into hiring people in general who just aren't fucking retarded and take their work seriously.
Let me break it down for you:
Looking for females (must be 21 and over) living in Huntington Beach, CA (or in near by City) to work at a local retail shop. Must have/be able to:
! Bubbly and fun personality There are guys with these traits, some might call them friendly, some might call them gay.
! Be willing and able to clean Out of the 1000s of females I know, only 2 of them have ever showed this trait.
! Follow direction Men can't follow directions?
! Work hard obvious, considering most of the world is built by men.
! Willing to work weekends Guys don't call their guy friends on Friday night and say "I need to go out and dance tonight or I will explode! Fuck work!"
! Be willing to learn new things daily and be able to take initiative As far as I've seen, men are the initiators in most situations and always ready to adapt and learn.
! No standing around please Men don't dilly-dally
! No playing on the computer, no cell phone use (Except while on your designated break period.) What facebook and text messaging? Sounds like a female problem.
Pay starting at approx. $9.00 plus tips, 90 day review with possibility for raise.
This is a serious job, where we also have fun with perks along the way. We're looking for just the right people, so if this sounds like you please respond with:
The right "people"? You mean female? Unless this job entails doing sexual favors or wearing slutty clothes I don't see why a man can't do it just as well as a woman.
~ Resume
~ Facebook page link. Your actual Facebook URL, not just your name. This can help us get a better idea of your personality.
~ Hours available to work Monday through Sunday (Must be able to work weekends.)
~ Available start date
people like to talk with girls... so it works .. there is hgiher demand for girl then boy in such business. what is problem men i dont understand?
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On August 29 2011 06:03 Klaca wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 04:58 SpoR wrote:http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/csr/2563930125.htmlstill looking for a job and it irks me whenever I see shit like this posted on there so I finally decided to reply to one of them. Troll or whatever you want to call it, I sent the email back like this.
If you are going to be sexist and ask only for females, then you need to realize that the requirements you are asking them to not have are very distinctively female traits from my experiences with girls and women (and I have had many). Perhaps you should look into hiring people in general who just aren't fucking retarded and take their work seriously.
Let me break it down for you:
Looking for females (must be 21 and over) living in Huntington Beach, CA (or in near by City) to work at a local retail shop. Must have/be able to:
! Bubbly and fun personality There are guys with these traits, some might call them friendly, some might call them gay.
! Be willing and able to clean Out of the 1000s of females I know, only 2 of them have ever showed this trait.
! Follow direction Men can't follow directions?
! Work hard obvious, considering most of the world is built by men.
! Willing to work weekends Guys don't call their guy friends on Friday night and say "I need to go out and dance tonight or I will explode! Fuck work!"
! Be willing to learn new things daily and be able to take initiative As far as I've seen, men are the initiators in most situations and always ready to adapt and learn.
! No standing around please Men don't dilly-dally
! No playing on the computer, no cell phone use (Except while on your designated break period.) What facebook and text messaging? Sounds like a female problem.
Pay starting at approx. $9.00 plus tips, 90 day review with possibility for raise.
This is a serious job, where we also have fun with perks along the way. We're looking for just the right people, so if this sounds like you please respond with:
The right "people"? You mean female? Unless this job entails doing sexual favors or wearing slutty clothes I don't see why a man can't do it just as well as a woman.
~ Resume
~ Facebook page link. Your actual Facebook URL, not just your name. This can help us get a better idea of your personality.
~ Hours available to work Monday through Sunday (Must be able to work weekends.)
~ Available start date
people like to talk with girls... so it works .. there is hgiher demand for girl then boy in such business. what is problem men i dont understand?
Well if people can discriminate like that because they like it, what if some business owner likes to talk to white people - or his clients happen to?
"White people only" job
What if someone only likes to hire men because women sometimes get pregnant and it can be a nuisance?
"Men only" job.
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On August 29 2011 06:23 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 06:03 Klaca wrote:On August 29 2011 04:58 SpoR wrote:http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/csr/2563930125.htmlstill looking for a job and it irks me whenever I see shit like this posted on there so I finally decided to reply to one of them. Troll or whatever you want to call it, I sent the email back like this.
If you are going to be sexist and ask only for females, then you need to realize that the requirements you are asking them to not have are very distinctively female traits from my experiences with girls and women (and I have had many). Perhaps you should look into hiring people in general who just aren't fucking retarded and take their work seriously.
Let me break it down for you:
Looking for females (must be 21 and over) living in Huntington Beach, CA (or in near by City) to work at a local retail shop. Must have/be able to:
! Bubbly and fun personality There are guys with these traits, some might call them friendly, some might call them gay.
! Be willing and able to clean Out of the 1000s of females I know, only 2 of them have ever showed this trait.
! Follow direction Men can't follow directions?
! Work hard obvious, considering most of the world is built by men.
! Willing to work weekends Guys don't call their guy friends on Friday night and say "I need to go out and dance tonight or I will explode! Fuck work!"
! Be willing to learn new things daily and be able to take initiative As far as I've seen, men are the initiators in most situations and always ready to adapt and learn.
! No standing around please Men don't dilly-dally
! No playing on the computer, no cell phone use (Except while on your designated break period.) What facebook and text messaging? Sounds like a female problem.
Pay starting at approx. $9.00 plus tips, 90 day review with possibility for raise.
This is a serious job, where we also have fun with perks along the way. We're looking for just the right people, so if this sounds like you please respond with:
The right "people"? You mean female? Unless this job entails doing sexual favors or wearing slutty clothes I don't see why a man can't do it just as well as a woman.
~ Resume
~ Facebook page link. Your actual Facebook URL, not just your name. This can help us get a better idea of your personality.
~ Hours available to work Monday through Sunday (Must be able to work weekends.)
~ Available start date
people like to talk with girls... so it works .. there is hgiher demand for girl then boy in such business. what is problem men i dont understand? Well if people can discriminate like that because they like it, what if some business owner likes to talk to white people - or his clients happen to? "White people only" job What if someone only likes to hire men because women sometimes get pregnant and it can be a nuisance? "Men only" job.
Hell I know that, when I'm an entrepreneur, I am NOT hiring women just for the fact that they always get pregnant lol :p. Inefficient to the max.
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OP, You apparently don't even care to ask why they only ask for females. Jobs don't need to employ everyone. Maybe they have a whole bunch of guys working there and want both genders working there equally? You seem to completely not care about the circumstances, and you went about it incredibly unprofessionally.
You surely aren't getting the job now >.>
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On August 29 2011 06:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
OP, You apparently don't even care to ask why they only ask for females. Jobs don't need to employ everyone. Maybe they have a whole bunch of guys working there and want both genders working there equally? You seem to completely not care about the circumstances, and you went about it incredibly unprofessionally.
You surely aren't getting the job now >.>
I don't think he is expecting to get the job
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LOL SpoR bro you always have the most interesting blogs, but all in all, why the fuck don't you just ignore bullshit like this and just try and get a job that would be easier to get? What it all boils down to is the fact that we all need money and jobs! And wasting time like this isnt gonna get you one bro!!!!!
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On August 29 2011 06:23 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 06:03 Klaca wrote:On August 29 2011 04:58 SpoR wrote:http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/csr/2563930125.htmlstill looking for a job and it irks me whenever I see shit like this posted on there so I finally decided to reply to one of them. Troll or whatever you want to call it, I sent the email back like this.
If you are going to be sexist and ask only for females, then you need to realize that the requirements you are asking them to not have are very distinctively female traits from my experiences with girls and women (and I have had many). Perhaps you should look into hiring people in general who just aren't fucking retarded and take their work seriously.
Let me break it down for you:
Looking for females (must be 21 and over) living in Huntington Beach, CA (or in near by City) to work at a local retail shop. Must have/be able to:
! Bubbly and fun personality There are guys with these traits, some might call them friendly, some might call them gay.
! Be willing and able to clean Out of the 1000s of females I know, only 2 of them have ever showed this trait.
! Follow direction Men can't follow directions?
! Work hard obvious, considering most of the world is built by men.
! Willing to work weekends Guys don't call their guy friends on Friday night and say "I need to go out and dance tonight or I will explode! Fuck work!"
! Be willing to learn new things daily and be able to take initiative As far as I've seen, men are the initiators in most situations and always ready to adapt and learn.
! No standing around please Men don't dilly-dally
! No playing on the computer, no cell phone use (Except while on your designated break period.) What facebook and text messaging? Sounds like a female problem.
Pay starting at approx. $9.00 plus tips, 90 day review with possibility for raise.
This is a serious job, where we also have fun with perks along the way. We're looking for just the right people, so if this sounds like you please respond with:
The right "people"? You mean female? Unless this job entails doing sexual favors or wearing slutty clothes I don't see why a man can't do it just as well as a woman.
~ Resume
~ Facebook page link. Your actual Facebook URL, not just your name. This can help us get a better idea of your personality.
~ Hours available to work Monday through Sunday (Must be able to work weekends.)
~ Available start date
people like to talk with girls... so it works .. there is hgiher demand for girl then boy in such business. what is problem men i dont understand? Well if people can discriminate like that because they like it, what if some business owner likes to talk to white people - or his clients happen to? "White people only" job What if someone only likes to hire men because women sometimes get pregnant and it can be a nuisance? "Men only" job. so what.. no one getting hurt. their own problem if they hire a less competent person because of their phobias. that is their loss. no need to punish it lol.
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On August 29 2011 07:08 Klaca wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 06:23 Djzapz wrote:On August 29 2011 06:03 Klaca wrote:On August 29 2011 04:58 SpoR wrote:http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/csr/2563930125.htmlstill looking for a job and it irks me whenever I see shit like this posted on there so I finally decided to reply to one of them. Troll or whatever you want to call it, I sent the email back like this.
If you are going to be sexist and ask only for females, then you need to realize that the requirements you are asking them to not have are very distinctively female traits from my experiences with girls and women (and I have had many). Perhaps you should look into hiring people in general who just aren't fucking retarded and take their work seriously.
Let me break it down for you:
Looking for females (must be 21 and over) living in Huntington Beach, CA (or in near by City) to work at a local retail shop. Must have/be able to:
! Bubbly and fun personality There are guys with these traits, some might call them friendly, some might call them gay.
! Be willing and able to clean Out of the 1000s of females I know, only 2 of them have ever showed this trait.
! Follow direction Men can't follow directions?
! Work hard obvious, considering most of the world is built by men.
! Willing to work weekends Guys don't call their guy friends on Friday night and say "I need to go out and dance tonight or I will explode! Fuck work!"
! Be willing to learn new things daily and be able to take initiative As far as I've seen, men are the initiators in most situations and always ready to adapt and learn.
! No standing around please Men don't dilly-dally
! No playing on the computer, no cell phone use (Except while on your designated break period.) What facebook and text messaging? Sounds like a female problem.
Pay starting at approx. $9.00 plus tips, 90 day review with possibility for raise.
This is a serious job, where we also have fun with perks along the way. We're looking for just the right people, so if this sounds like you please respond with:
The right "people"? You mean female? Unless this job entails doing sexual favors or wearing slutty clothes I don't see why a man can't do it just as well as a woman.
~ Resume
~ Facebook page link. Your actual Facebook URL, not just your name. This can help us get a better idea of your personality.
~ Hours available to work Monday through Sunday (Must be able to work weekends.)
~ Available start date
people like to talk with girls... so it works .. there is hgiher demand for girl then boy in such business. what is problem men i dont understand? Well if people can discriminate like that because they like it, what if some business owner likes to talk to white people - or his clients happen to? "White people only" job What if someone only likes to hire men because women sometimes get pregnant and it can be a nuisance? "Men only" job. so what.. no one getting hurt. their own problem if they hire a less competent person because of their phobias. that is their loss. no need to punish it lol.
I would agree. My opinion is that it should be perfectly legal for imbeciles not to let black people in their store and it's obviously my right not to every shop there and to tell everyone not to go there. Basically, it's your business and you should be allowed to do whatever the hell you want with it, even if it's absolutely ridiculous. You should have that freedom.
However we're in a setting where we don't discriminate, and so in these times, we just shouldn't discriminate at all (or with a few exceptions i guess).
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I like how all of the points you made are sexist rofl. I don't know if this was supposed to be irony or what.
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1. Most of the points you made are more sexist than the ad. "Men built this world" "Men don't dilly-dally".
2. I think this is a disguised advert for prostitution. The details are vague and the personality requirements are more like someone looking for a partner than a job candidate. So they require females because the person writing the ad is male and straight (...)
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On August 29 2011 05:09 Holykitty wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 05:03 micronesia wrote:
There is a valid point to be made... but I don't think you made it. Hopefully you enjoyed this though LOL.
BTW I can't believe they expect a link to your facebook page. That's pretty ridiculous. a lot of employers these days check you out on facebook to see the 'real' you. because apparently its not good enough to be the model employee at work anymore, you have to be boring at home too :D
What if you don't use facebook... I can see them thinking you're BSing and not hire you which would be kinda retarded.
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facepalm there is saying the obvious and then there is misogyny. would be funny if they called you for an interview tho
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