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http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/csr/2563930125.html
still looking for a job and it irks me whenever I see shit like this posted on there so I finally decided to reply to one of them. Troll or whatever you want to call it, I sent the email back like this.
If you are going to be sexist and ask only for females, then you need to realize that the requirements you are asking them to not have are very distinctively female traits from my experiences with girls and women (and I have had many). Perhaps you should look into hiring people in general who just aren't fucking retarded and take their work seriously.
Let me break it down for you:
Looking for females (must be 21 and over) living in Huntington Beach, CA (or in near by City) to work at a local retail shop. Must have/be able to:
! Bubbly and fun personality There are guys with these traits, some might call them friendly, some might call them gay.
! Be willing and able to clean Out of the 1000s of females I know, only 2 of them have ever showed this trait.
! Follow direction Men can't follow directions?
! Work hard obvious, considering most of the world is built by men.
! Willing to work weekends Guys don't call their guy friends on Friday night and say "I need to go out and dance tonight or I will explode! Fuck work!"
! Be willing to learn new things daily and be able to take initiative As far as I've seen, men are the initiators in most situations and always ready to adapt and learn.
! No standing around please Men don't dilly-dally
! No playing on the computer, no cell phone use (Except while on your designated break period.) What facebook and text messaging? Sounds like a female problem.
Pay starting at approx. $9.00 plus tips, 90 day review with possibility for raise.
This is a serious job, where we also have fun with perks along the way. We're looking for just the right people, so if this sounds like you please respond with:
The right "people"? You mean female? Unless this job entails doing sexual favors or wearing slutty clothes I don't see why a man can't do it just as well as a woman.
~ Resume
~ Facebook page link. Your actual Facebook URL, not just your name. This can help us get a better idea of your personality.
~ Hours available to work Monday through Sunday (Must be able to work weekends.)
~ Available start date
 
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United States24750 Posts
There is a valid point to be made... but I don't think you made it. Hopefully you enjoyed this though LOL.
BTW I can't believe they expect a link to your facebook page. That's pretty ridiculous.
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Without knowing the specific details of the job, you can't say if there's a valid reason to request a gender specific applicant. Further, replying with sexism to carry flag for equality is an...interesting approach.
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Your argument makes a lot of sense, until you tell us that is a job to victoria secret or something. What is this job that wants women only?
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Facebook page.. (aka so we can see if you are good looking or not) what a bunch of sleezes lol.
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On August 29 2011 05:03 micronesia wrote:
There is a valid point to be made... but I don't think you made it. Hopefully you enjoyed this though LOL.
BTW I can't believe they expect a link to your facebook page. That's pretty ridiculous.
a lot of employers these days check you out on facebook to see the 'real' you. because apparently its not good enough to be the model employee at work anymore, you have to be boring at home too :D
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I would laugh if this job turned out to be at Hooters.
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Pretty sure its either a old man pervert who runs some girls clothing shop or just some dumb feminist/lesbian running whatever shop.
Yea the asking for facebook page is a huge tipoff that they want to see what you look like. But I mean I can understand employers wanting to look at your page because people tend to fake it until they make it.
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On August 29 2011 05:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
I would laugh if this job turned out to be at Hooters.
naw its for a retail job.
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United States5348 Posts
gender specific in some situations, esp retail isnt a huge deal imo. hell im pretty sure most women DONT want to go to a victoria's secret staffed by men and that seems perfectly reasonable to me.
the facebook part really made me o.O tho, i would never give my fbook to an employer. hell i hang out and have tons of fun and go drinking with my boss, and still he didnt get my fbook until i had left the job. its just not necessary imo. thats a totally different rant tho lol.
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I think the primary reason to check Facebook would be to see if you're bitching about a current/old job and stuff...but in my opinion no employer should have the right to intrude there. Retail jobs, if it's a cleaner that would involve cleaning women's toilets because they already have the men's side covered, or if's going to be working around changing rooms or if it's a shop that people may be more comfortable with female staff (like Victoria's Secret etc) could have a million reasons to ask for a specific gender.
If there is no reason to, it's sexism. I'd be surprised if this isn't just you seeing sexism where it doesn't exist.
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On August 29 2011 05:03 micronesia wrote:
There is a valid point to be made... but I don't think you made it. Hopefully you enjoyed this though LOL.
BTW I can't believe they expect a link to your facebook page. That's pretty ridiculous.
Actually.. some people look for it because, they want to know if they look okay, and if they were people who use bad language a lot, and stuff like that. They don't care about looks, but it's possible they are super sleezes. I learned from people at school that they do this. Guys, or girls, w.e.
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On August 29 2011 05:15 Iyerbeth wrote:
I think the primary reason to check Facebook would be to see if you're bitching about a current/old job and stuff...but in my opinion no employer should have the right to intrude there. Retail jobs, if it's a cleaner that would involve cleaning women's toilets because they already have the men's side covered, or if's going to be working around changing rooms or if it's a shop that people may be more comfortable with female staff (like Victoria's Secret etc) could have a million reasons to ask for a specific gender.
If there is no reason to, it's sexism. I'd be surprised if this isn't just you seeing sexism where it doesn't exist.
the point is they are vague about what the position is and require female only while acting like they are looking for a serious person.
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On August 29 2011 05:13 SpoR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 05:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
I would laugh if this job turned out to be at Hooters. naw its for a retail job.
Lingerie store then?
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I think in general women are better at selling stuff. In TV commercials, almost all the voices are done by females because sex sells. Women are attractive and they are just better at selling clothing.
I don't really have enough to go on to tell if the employer is just some scuzzy sleazebag though.
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On August 29 2011 05:20 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 05:13 SpoR wrote:On August 29 2011 05:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
I would laugh if this job turned out to be at Hooters. naw its for a retail job. Lingerie store then?
thats a possibility but I've been to porn shops that had men and women working equally.
On August 29 2011 05:20 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I think in general women are better at selling stuff. In TV commercials, almost all the voices are done by females because sex sells. Women are attractive and they are just better at selling clothing.
I don't really have enough to go on to tell if the employer is just some scuzzy sleazebag though.
Sex does sell but that doesn't mean women are the best salespeople. Look at car dealerships or most tech stores. Majority of salespeople are salesmen.
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On August 29 2011 05:20 SpoR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 05:15 Iyerbeth wrote:
I think the primary reason to check Facebook would be to see if you're bitching about a current/old job and stuff...but in my opinion no employer should have the right to intrude there. Retail jobs, if it's a cleaner that would involve cleaning women's toilets because they already have the men's side covered, or if's going to be working around changing rooms or if it's a shop that people may be more comfortable with female staff (like Victoria's Secret etc) could have a million reasons to ask for a specific gender.
If there is no reason to, it's sexism. I'd be surprised if this isn't just you seeing sexism where it doesn't exist. the point is they are vague about what the position is and require female only while acting like they are looking for a serious person.
Of course they're looking for a serious person for their position, or are you implying women cant be serious people? My point was that without knowing what the position was you have no basis to attack them for a gender specific employment spot. Further, that there is no basis to attack the concept of gender specific employment.
If this is just a generalised retailer with the job involving nothing that could be gender related, then yes there's a problem to be addressed, but I think it's unlikely that is the case here or in general.
Edit: Reworded first sentence.
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I read the title as sexiest jobs...
I was thoroughly disappointed
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On August 29 2011 05:27 Nella wrote:
I read the title as sexiest jobs...
I was thoroughly disappointed
sup girl
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Mhmmmm, I'd be interested in hearing what the actual position is. If it's a generic position that could be filled by anyone, then yes, it does seem discriminatory. However, if there's a reason for the job to be female-only, well then you're going to look silly. :p
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