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Regarding the WCG Qualifiers in Chile [RANT]

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UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
August 15 2011 04:27 GMT
#1
I'm so super disappointed at the WCG Qualifiers in my country.
First of all, the stream was absolutely unacceptable. Somehow the production felt that cameras pointing torwards projected screens in the stages was an acceptable way to provide streaming. But it seems it wasn't enough, they had to put a fucking scaffold in between the camera and projection so you couldn't see shit.

Commentaries didn't get behind the awesome streaming quality. Audio seemed to be picked up from ambiental mics (from the cameras??). CS matches got casted by some dude who, whenever a round finished, just went "OOOH what a cool round for [insert team name here]". And that was it.
In the case of FIFA, commentarists were pretty good, but since the mics picked up ambiental sound and the facility in which the event took place (Espacio Riesco in Santiago) is kinda large, it was heard like a priests preach in a cathedral.
And regarding SC2, and that was the thing that saddened me the most, matches weren't cast until the semifinals, when a friend of mine formerly asked one of the tournament officials to cast the game on the main screen (they weren't casting them because "players could watch", even though they were not facing the projected screens on the main stage). Only when SC2LA.com staff made present and began broadcasting matches on their own channel, we got some of the action with d.Killer making the finals and taking the tournament, earning a trip to the finals in Korea.

Overall, a pretty shitty event, which makes me so sad because it is for stuff like this that such events that E-Sports aren't big here in latinamerica and in particular, in Chile.
I just wish more people with the drive some of us have here would have been in the production. I mean, streaming with XSplit is free (yet) and they still don't use it, favoring cameras?? Commentarists are just shitty and unprofessional? (i catched one of the casters watching his FB page, yes, HIS DAMN FB PAGE ON THE MAIN STREAM...)

... God, and to think it was the WCG. What's next for E-Sports in my country with this level of professionalism and without involving the people who know the game and know how this stuff works??

*sigh*

If you speak spanish, watch my VOD ranting about this in my stream HERE, on my JTV channel.


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therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
August 15 2011 04:35 GMT
#2
That sucks man. My only advice is to try to get involved and you can help things get better.

In Canada it looks like we might not even have SC2 for WCG how pathetic is that :/.
UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 04:49:43
August 15 2011 04:48 GMT
#3
I'm so trying to get involved. I contacted SC2LA staff prior to the event for another online tournament I wanted to get involved with, since I want to get into casting (since we all get there is a lack of spanish language casters in Latin America). But then this happens, and it just makes me sad. I want things to get better here and to promte ESports but seeing stuff like this happens just makes me so sad and want to give more and more.
I urge all the Latin American players to begin moving torwards constructing a large and strong ESports community. And the only way to gain momentum is making gaming known and getting quality tournaments. Sadly, this WCG qualifier (with what it implies, being the WCG) was just not up to its name.
therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
August 15 2011 05:13 GMT
#4
I'm not surprised, E-sports have always been a joke in our country

Mostly it's because the "gaming" culture isn't up to date and it doesn't get the support it should.

I played competitively Counter-Strike in Chile for a long time.
UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
August 15 2011 05:17 GMT
#5
I know what you mean. I played Q2 competitively for a long, long time. I also was the FPSs community manager for One.cl for a long, long time. Then economic interests went in and all went to hell, we all know about that. It is just impossible to get things serious without proper support and acceptance from the tournament organizers.
Such a fucking shame.
therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
August 15 2011 05:18 GMT
#6
Well sponsors are not to blame entirely, the support we did get at some point was misused and the gaming community in general isn't serious at all.

UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
August 15 2011 05:24 GMT
#7
Not to mention piracy. Game costs are, in most cases, kinda high. ESports are still expensive here, and that is also a problem. And the worst, I believe, is that communities do not unify because everyone wants a piece of the pie, they all want to get their grip at the power that handling a community gives them and are not willing to give that up in order for this to grow. We all know where that ended if we examine the cases of Zoomby.net and One.cl...
therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
August 15 2011 05:42 GMT
#8
Last thing I heard is some people tried stealing equipment from the WCG booths in a mall
UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
August 15 2011 05:51 GMT
#9
Sheesh. To top it all, now they want to steal the equipment from the mall booths??
OMGWTFBBQ.
therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 23:21:56
August 15 2011 23:19 GMT
#10
This is Chile man, last time I was here I wanted to play Basket ball but they had stolen the boards in the court...

I'm glad I'm heading back to France.

Edit: btw the cost of life here in Santiago will never allow e-sports to grow. Supermarkets are just a little cheaper than France where minimum wage is more than 5500 pesos/hour. Internet access is at the same price...
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
August 16 2011 05:10 GMT
#11
On August 15 2011 14:18 Kfish wrote:
Well sponsors are not to blame entirely, the support we did get at some point was misused and the gaming community in general isn't serious at all.



the worst thing is when you put a esport event as WCG in the hands of ppl who doesn't even care/know about esport at all.

The guy who made it have the contacts, have the money & have the knowledge on how to do "SOME" stuff. But honestly, if the head of the event doesn't follow the growth of the esport market then he will have troubles when he need to EVOLVE.

The biggest problem was changing from a LAN event to a online-in-site event.
It was horrible how the LAN setup and the Stream setup was HORRIBLE.

I tried to do everything to be able to make SOMETHING happen as part of the staff for the SC2 tournament, setting up a unofficial stream (Jesus) & trying to calm down the crowd of ppl blaming me for the problems that the electric and lan department of the event had trouble with.

And the worst thing is that I was being paid less money that the pretty dumbass promoter girls that didn't even need to think to be at the event.

WCG Chile 2011 was a shame as a esport event. I hope that IEM in Brazil will kick ass. I hope the license is bought by someone who really cares about esports and the players.
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
August 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#12
Hats off to you and all the fine folks at SC2LA, Drakan. You took the SC2 event forward just on a pulse. Commendable.
therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
August 16 2011 05:27 GMT
#13
Thanks a lot.
I was absolutely depressed during the first day, and then at the second day I just wanted to kill myself. I couldn't understand how the organization wanted us to solve every single problem giving us 2 hours of preparation to test AND SOLVE everything!!! We needed at the very least 1 day to test the network, computers, games, and make a theory on how to make more efficient the check-in for the tournament.

There was no pens, tables, computers, printers, not even PAPER, NOTHING to help the staff to create a tournament.


In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
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