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G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 23:40:37
August 09 2011 23:34 GMT
#1
So I've been on this website for a while now and have noticed a lot of things. A lot of things I really enjoy and a lot of things I don't, so this is just a rant blog on one particular thing.

A lot of people on this website seem to think that ESPORTS is StarCraft, and anything other than the almighty glorious StarCraft is not considered ESPORTS. If a game reaches or reaching a high level of popularity, let the butthurt nerds rolling in calling blasphemy that anything other than StarCraft should like just die because it's not esports.

There were a lot of games that are still very popular today and has contributed a lot to the competitive gaming scene. There's CS, AoE, DotA, Warcraft III and many many many many more. Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

I don't give a shit about esports personally, because I just want to have fun and do whatever the hell I want in a game and to be honest I find the entire esports thing is kind of lame. But this StarCraft = esports thing is just dumb...

/end rant


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┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 23:39:27
August 09 2011 23:38 GMT
#2
It's hardly unique to starcraft. Some SCBW people say the same about SC2, etc.

It's pretty much the whole "hardcore vs casual" mentality that for whatever reason pervades gaming (on the internet). People pretty much either don't understand themselves why they play games or refuse to understand others.

lol good post combo with below
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
August 09 2011 23:38 GMT
#3
I assume you mean sc2, you should specify that.
Brood war = only real esport.
SC2 = joke
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 09 2011 23:39 GMT
#4
Agreed, SC is just a cog in the wheel

(Love the != title)
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 09 2011 23:43 GMT
#5
ESPORTS
Thank God and gunrun.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 09 2011 23:43 GMT
#6
I would like to propose the following instead:

STARCRAFT > esports.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 09 2011 23:48 GMT
#7
Honesty though, the SC community know well that there exists ESPORTS outside of starcraft, here's just an example of the camaraderie shown between Evo and MLG fans just this weekend:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jcqi4/starcraft_you_are_not_alone_hello_from_the/

Thank God and gunrun.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
August 09 2011 23:49 GMT
#8
On August 10 2011 08:34 G3CKO wrote:
Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

Don't really know what to say. You have seen people play starcraft haven't you?
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
August 09 2011 23:49 GMT
#9
On August 10 2011 08:43 Primadog wrote:
ESPORTS

I see the light! So only StarCraft is ESPORTS ehhhhh and Warcraft I guess lol
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 23:58:01
August 09 2011 23:51 GMT
#10
On August 10 2011 08:49 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:34 G3CKO wrote:
Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

Don't really know what to say. You have seen people play starcraft haven't you?


You haven't seen high level AoE II haven't you... Try planning out a 1 hour game with a 4 resource economy. AOE2 requires so much speed/skill nowdays to compete its insane. It's not about outguessing your oppenents build orders, and playing mind games, and hiding buildings/expansions/etc. its about OUTPLAYING him.

AoE pretty much set the standard for RTS.
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
August 09 2011 23:57 GMT
#11
On August 10 2011 08:49 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:34 G3CKO wrote:
Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

Don't really know what to say. You have seen people play starcraft haven't you?


They're both RTS.

AoE2's UI is much worse than broodwar's, and the harvester mechanics are significantly more difficult. Have you seen people play AoE2?
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 09 2011 23:58 GMT
#12
On August 10 2011 08:43 Primadog wrote:
ESPORTS

/thread?
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
August 10 2011 00:04 GMT
#13
On August 10 2011 08:57 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:49 0mgVitaminE wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:34 G3CKO wrote:
Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

Don't really know what to say. You have seen people play starcraft haven't you?


They're both RTS.

AoE2's UI is much worse than broodwar's, and the harvester mechanics are significantly more difficult. Have you seen people play AoE2?


What? They are basically the same....
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
August 10 2011 00:08 GMT
#14
On August 10 2011 08:51 G3CKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:49 0mgVitaminE wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:34 G3CKO wrote:
Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

Don't really know what to say. You have seen people play starcraft haven't you?


You haven't seen high level AoE II haven't you... Try planning out a 1 hour game with a 4 resource economy. AOE2 requires so much speed/skill nowdays to compete its insane. It's not about outguessing your oppenents build orders, and playing mind games, and hiding buildings/expansions/etc. its about OUTPLAYING him.

AoE pretty much set the standard for RTS.


You say that like that's all SC is.
BW4Life!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
August 10 2011 00:09 GMT
#15
On August 10 2011 09:04 Trowabarton756 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:57 Kaal wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:49 0mgVitaminE wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:34 G3CKO wrote:
Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

Don't really know what to say. You have seen people play starcraft haven't you?


They're both RTS.

AoE2's UI is much worse than broodwar's, and the harvester mechanics are significantly more difficult. Have you seen people play AoE2?


What? They are basically the same....


The UI covers about 1/3 of the screen that BW does, and most people will have a hell of a time trying to hunt boar and manage their gold/lumber ratios on villagers. I don't even want to try explaining how hectic it is practicing the AoC mining mechanics.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 10 2011 00:11 GMT
#16
On August 10 2011 09:04 Trowabarton756 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:57 Kaal wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:49 0mgVitaminE wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:34 G3CKO wrote:
Hell Age of Empires is a way harder game than StarCraft can ever be, and the skill ceiling of AoE is way higher than StarCraft (It's the truth, no troll)

Don't really know what to say. You have seen people play starcraft haven't you?


They're both RTS.

AoE2's UI is much worse than broodwar's, and the harvester mechanics are significantly more difficult. Have you seen people play AoE2?


What? They are basically the same....

I somewhat disagree with this opinion.

On one hand, you can select more units in AoE2. On the other hand, there is no attack move, which IMO is quite a huge difference.

Also, it's annoying having to deal with large swaths of forest being cut down, which tends to gradually increase worker inefficiency until you rebuild the resource drop-off sites.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 10 2011 00:12 GMT
#17
Your post is true, but when you're the biggest, oldest and most developed, it's easy to look on other games as johnny-come-latelies and passing fads.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
August 10 2011 00:12 GMT
#18
Has anyone got any decent FPVODs of people playing AoE competitively? I'm really curious now.
BW4Life!
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
August 10 2011 00:13 GMT
#19
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

This guy thinks AoE is harder than SC.....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Everything in AoE moves so slow and is such a hard counter. lololol.

I love AoE, don't get me wrong, i've played every single AoE out there a fuck ton. But come on... really? lolololol
Wahaha
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
August 10 2011 00:17 GMT
#20
On August 10 2011 08:38 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
I assume you mean sc2, you should specify that.
Brood war = only real esport.
SC2 = joke

high5
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