EPTMLG clap was in the chat during SOTG and alot of ppl were telling him about the xeris situation. He said his looking into this situation. also said Xeris will lose his past privileges if found guilty.
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zaii
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MLG clap was in the chat during SOTG and alot of ppl were telling him about the xeris situation. He said his looking into this situation. also said Xeris will lose his past privileges if found guilty. | ||
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KinosJourney2
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Also, it's pretty fucked up that noone is keeping track of the VIP-seats. The security lady basically not bothering with helping the guy get his seat back from you kind of explains how bad of a job they are doing. On August 02 2011 14:21 yenta wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wgHV4.png) Hahahaha, fucking hilarious pic by the way | ||
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ShadowWolf
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WhiteNights
United States252 Posts
On August 03 2011 21:30 zaii wrote: MLG clap was in the chat during SOTG and alot of ppl were telling him about the xeris situation. He said his looking into this situation. also said Xeris will lose his past privileges if found guilty. Guilty of what? | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Crimes against ESPORTS | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
taking reserved seats from Dr.Pepper contestant winners, Hell even Sundance the CEO himself moved when they asked him to. | ||
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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
On August 03 2011 22:20 zaii wrote: taking reserved seats from Dr.Pepper contestant winners, Hell even Sundance the CEO himself moved when they asked him to. This seems a bit silly, this witch-hunt on reddit was crazy, and the Vice President of MLG investigating the alledged 'stealing' of a seat is just totally uncalled for. And LiquidGaga said the contest was not from Dr Pepper, so Xeris cannot be found guilty for said 'crime'. Why MLG is putting manpower into punishing an alledged seat 'stealer' and not putting said manpower in arranging more seats for the next event is beyond me. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
Also about the seats, add anymore seats and the fire marshal will shut down the event, it's been said over and over again. | ||
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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
On August 03 2011 23:20 zaii wrote: liquidgaga who? Also about the seats, add anymore seats and the fire marshal will shut down the event, it's been said over and over again. LiquidGaga was the OP from the reddit trainwreck and also posted on this blog the contest was not from Dr Pepper. And about seats I was talking about seatings, not chairs. They could add sofas, benches, hire an additional hall, there must be something they can do. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
Gotta as the fire marshals if those are ok. | ||
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hiyo_bye
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On August 03 2011 23:43 zaii wrote: Was just reporting on this thread that MLGClap was looking into this. Gotta as the fire marshals if those are ok. I hope their investigation also includes talking to me, because I've yet to hear from anyone at MLG T__T! | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
If even half of it is true... he is exactly the type of person esports doesn't need. EDIT: You know what, I'm going to make another post just quoting a few people on reddit (it's not like these are nonames... we got people like special endrey and psystarcraft complaining about Xeris). I really feel like Xeris needs to respond to the criticism. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
PsyStarcraft wrote: This kind of behavior doesn't surprise me in the least. In the pre-NASL days, Xeris approached me through YouTube asking me to help him publicize a new, amazing announcement that was to be made. This announcement, of course, was the NASL. Within his message he made several suggestions that I'd have the chance to work with the GosuCoaching/NASL staff in promoting the tournament. He also expressed interest in picking me up as a caster and involving me in the league, and suggested a few other things as well (this was a long time ago). I was excited! I told him I'd love to help the NASL succeed, and gave him my contact information. After several reminder messages over the next couple of weeks, I still received absolutely no follow up and eventually gave up. To this day, I can't help but wonder if he copy/pasted the same message to every single YouTube caster, hoping to get free advertising for their hokey, failure of a league. I've always disliked NASL since that moment, but never expressed it until now. Is it possible that my messages were lost or he just didn't think I was the right person for the job? Sure, but it's doubtful. Some kind of closure would have been nice. Seems to me that Xeris is just a genuine asshole. Special Endrey wrote: Well i only read about a 100 comments. So here is my point of view regarding my personal expierience with that guy. I heard from various other sources (people deep in the community), that he is quite an arrogant person. So i expierienced it 1st hand too. Quite a while back (about 8-9 months), there was a tournament series, with no announced caster so I said to myself. Sure why not. try it, go for it - the least thing you can get will be a "No sorry, we are looking for someone else. We already have someone else for that postion", I was never more wrong! Despite from writing up an eSports CV, my casting experience, references, talking in detail about my stream quality the ability to have all VODs as avi,flv on varoius streaming providers, you tube upload etc. I didnt even get a fucking answer. Thats not only unproffesional, thats also fucking rude. So there were more announcements about other tournaments, leagues etc. where he was involved for example the NASL Open tour which was not even casted in the 1st one and a half day. TL Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230478 where it says "I will be online throughout the games tomorrow. You can also email me any problems/questions at xeris@nasl.tv!" Well so i summed up all my skills, references etc.etc. because I thought "they would prolly let me do the casting before nobody is doing it, coz otherwise it would be just plain stupid" guess what, no answer. its not like i didnt try it. Multiple times via mail, PM. In all that time, I casted dozens of showmatches tours, cups, leagues, casuals games. And I never got ignored that much by someone. So I am currently planning something. I already talked to teammanagers of Liquid, Dignitas, EG etc. all no problem at all. Guess what who I wont be talking to. Btw fnatic players are awesome, dont let the players suffer for Xeris beeing not able to act like a proffesional, when you are about to use your pitchforks! NASL Graphic Designer? wrote: yo ... FUCK Xeris, what a little bitch. You know for NASL, none of the graphic designers were paid? He basically just emailed us and cc'd all designers in saying shit like "i need cool banner with x and y", whoever makes it first, it goes up. He never gave deadlines, none of that shit. Nobody got paid, it was volunteer work obviously but we deserve a bit more than just "plz make me this, thx!!!11" via email. Fucking bullshit. I told him to fuck off on Skype, called him a cunt and that was that. FUCK Xeris. With that being said, I don't see why the guys didn't say straight up to him "listen buddy, we won these seats, now get the flying FUCK out of them or I will physically remove you". Nothing wrong with that. Some guy on Reddit wrote: I met xeris IRL at WCG US finals that I was supposed to cast in NYC. I can confirm: he is a dick. I was standing watching either idra or machine playing and he literally walked and stood right in front of me - as in my shirt was touching his. I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him "excuse me, is there a reason you stepped right in front of me?" to which he replied "I felt like it" so I told him to "get out of my fucking way before I make you get out of my fucking way." eg.colbi was standing next to me and said "dude, this is motherfucking xeris." I not so calmly replied "I don't give a fuck who he is, you don't get in front of someone like that" (other than incontrol maybe, he's a much bigger guy than me) and he got out of the way. If he didn't, I was planning on pushing him over the midget barrier >:D tl;dr yes, xeris is a big douche IRL | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
If you're offended about that, my apologies! Special Endrey -- I know your post isn't true because you claim that the NASL Open wasn't casted for the first 1.5 days? It was cast by Axel and 2 other casters for the first few days, and the final days were cast by Gretorp and iNcontroL. The Season 2 Qualifier was cast exclusively by Axel and Khaldor. I either never received, or never got to any message from you (unless it was under a different name?). I get a LOT of emails and PM's and sometimes I don't get to all of them. I try my best to respond to everyone that talks to me. Your post is either flat out untrue, or I missed your pm where you asked if you could cast. I've seen the events you host, and they're all good! NASL Graphic Designer? -- I've never been told by anyone through skype or email to 'fuck off.' This is totally untrue. I also never claimed to pay any of the graphic designers. It was made pretty clear when I posted looking for admins that graphics people would be volunteer work. You didn't have to volunteer your time if you didn't want to. I asked for banner requests from time to time for news pieces, and I posted up the ones I received. That's how I've always done banner requests through CSL and other things I host, I'm sorry if this is not what you were expecting? SC2GGRise -- I don't even remember ever meeting him. That's not even something I'd say to anyone in real life, that situation he writes about absolutely never happened. Since this post is entirely slanderous I'm not sure there's much else I can say | ||
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
On August 03 2011 08:12 Blazinghand wrote: Actions do speak louder than words, but to be fair: he's buying the guy a pass to the next MLG or NASL and giving him his press / VIP pass. If actions do speak louder than words, I'd say Xeris' actions speak louder than the words of people who aren't the offended party. Given what happened, I'd say that's reasonably fair of Xeris. Should he have been nicer in the first place? Absolutely. Especially if he was a dick. But that's already passed, and he's trying to make amends. Even if he has a history of caustic interactions with others, it's possible he's learned from this episode to be more gentle in the future. Or not-- but we'll see. But if every time he's a dick to someone in the future he buys them passes and gives them press passes to make up for it, maybe that's not as bad, and maybe he'll think to sit more carefully next time. Do you honestly think Xeris would make the gesture to buy someone tickets if the thread hadn't exploded on Reddit? Doing something nice for damage control is not the same thing as doing something nice because you're a genuinely nice person. | ||
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
On August 04 2011 03:39 Xeris wrote: PsyStarcraft: That was an idea that one of the ex owners of NASL had (to promote the NASL on youtube) that was never followed up on. We had some youtube stuff going, but we really didn't do anything about it. I pm'd you on my youtube account, which I rarely ever check and just plain forgot about it because we didn't really have any follow up, so that idea pretty much died. If you're offended about that, my apologies! Special Endrey -- I know your post isn't true because you claim that the NASL Open wasn't casted for the first 1.5 days? It was cast by Axel and 2 other casters for the first few days, and the final days were cast by Gretorp and iNcontroL. The Season 2 Qualifier was cast exclusively by Axel and Khaldor. I either never received, or never got to any message from you (unless it was under a different name?). I get a LOT of emails and PM's and sometimes I don't get to all of them. I try my best to respond to everyone that talks to me. Your post is either flat out untrue, or I missed your pm where you asked if you could cast. I've seen the events you host, and they're all good! NASL Graphic Designer? -- I've never been told by anyone through skype or email to 'fuck off.' This is totally untrue. I also never claimed to pay any of the graphic designers. It was made pretty clear when I posted looking for admins that graphics people would be volunteer work. You didn't have to volunteer your time if you didn't want to. I asked for banner requests from time to time for news pieces, and I posted up the ones I received. That's how I've always done banner requests through CSL and other things I host, I'm sorry if this is not what you were expecting? SC2GGRise -- I don't even remember ever meeting him. That's not even something I'd say to anyone in real life, that situation he writes about absolutely never happened. Since this post is entirely slanderous I'm not sure there's much else I can say See, here's the thing Xeris. You always seem to have an explanation for everything brought against you, but stuff keeps coming up that paints you in a bad light: this whole seat-stealing thing, where you're trying to diminish witness's statements; PsyStarcraft's thing, where you "forgot" to check your Youtube account, despite choosing that account to send it from when at the time it was important; SC2GGRise's thing that will go unproven either way; numerous complaints about the NASL that are responded to by apologies that sound just as disingenuous as this one. People may just have something against you, and with anonymous Reddit users I wouldn't be surprised. But when prominent members of the community chime in, their anecdotes feel more truthful. Someone already picked apart your apology a few pages back, and I feel he nailed everything that is making a lot of community members upset with you and your apology. You may not be guilty of some of the allegations against you, and you might be truthful when you say all your mistakes are "learning opportunities", but you seem pretty slow to learn from your mistakes. Every time you post an apology it sounds like you're back pedaling. I think it would do you good to do some critical thinking about why that is and how you can put forth the extra effort to fix problem situations before it becomes a larger concern. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
I mean seriously, is that the only thing these people can think of to bitch and complain about? Xeris even apologized, and yet these idiots are still full frontal flaming for no good reason. I mean seriously, what the fuck is wrong with some people... | ||
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