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Favored system and MMR

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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 30 2011 20:27 GMT
#1
i wonder if blizzard changed how the MMR system works?

Since the past(beta phase 1) i have been thinking about the 'favored' indication as a result of MMR. But after season 3 came out, seeing situations like this make me change my opinion.

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As you can see, this was take out of one of my friends profile and he is not the only one who has profile like this. He is a high master player who has beaten + got matched with several GM before (he has beaten dayvie for example). The people he is getting matched with are not gm at all, those are 1k5 1k6 master last season aka. mid master players.

Now if favored system is a result of MMR, all of these should get closer and closer to +- 10 points each game. I think this mean that blizzard is trying to use the favored system as a tool to increase the speed of points differential on ladder therefore easier to test out their mmr system...

I know this sounds dumb but all these make sense in my head and i decided to make a blog about it =_=



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Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#2
im in a similar situation myself, i believe its just trying to give us points so our points will match our mmr
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 30 2011 20:54 GMT
#3
Beginning of season your points are way lower than your MMR so both players will be favored and such. Eventually as your points start to level out you'll see it begin to even out. this is standard.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 21:18:51
July 30 2011 21:17 GMT
#4
On July 31 2011 05:36 unit wrote:
im in a similar situation myself, i believe its just trying to give us points so our points will match our mmr


Exactly this, it's accelerating the good players to get where they belong.

Edit: To your point about who he was being matched up with, if he's losing the majority of the game then they are obviously better so maybe they just hadn't played enough games to catch up to their own MMR yet.
Adastrom
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada219 Posts
July 30 2011 21:25 GMT
#5
LOLOLOL, THIS GUY SOUNDS A LOT LIKE GRANT


User was warned for this post
Lol pvz
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 30 2011 21:30 GMT
#6
if his MMR is higher then your points hes favored, resulting in more wins if you win, and less points lost when you lose.
dr Helvetica <3
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 30 2011 21:39 GMT
#7
As previously mentioned, the system is geared towards quick point gains until it reaches the area of your MMR. Happy laddering :D
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
July 30 2011 22:10 GMT
#8
On July 31 2011 06:25 Adastrom wrote:
LOLOLOL, THIS GUY SOUNDS A LOT LIKE GRANT


User was warned for this post


Who are you and how do you know my name/id/Match history?
I'm an old man now
Adastrom
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada219 Posts
July 30 2011 23:06 GMT
#9
On July 31 2011 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 06:25 Adastrom wrote:
LOLOLOL, THIS GUY SOUNDS A LOT LIKE GRANT


User was warned for this post


Who are you and how do you know my name/id/Match history?


Its derek, and i was bored so i checked your match history to see ur rank
Lol pvz
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
July 30 2011 23:22 GMT
#10
High points do not necessarily translate to high MMR.
EG-TL!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 30 2011 23:32 GMT
#11
i think i didnt make it clear enough: A GM level player lost game to a mid master and only lose 1 point. What i was trying to say is that blizzard started using the favored system to rewards point for high MMR players instead of using the MMR to calculate the favored system.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 31 2011 00:28 GMT
#12
On July 31 2011 08:32 NB wrote:
i think i didnt make it clear enough: A GM level player lost game to a mid master and only lose 1 point. What i was trying to say is that blizzard started using the favored system to rewards point for high MMR players instead of using the MMR to calculate the favored system.


This is the way its always been, at the start of the season it works weird.

The favoured system is your points vs their MMR. Therefore when your points are low and their MMR is high, you lose very little for a loss and gainh tonnes for a win
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 00:46:50
July 31 2011 00:45 GMT
#13
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273

In short, the MMR system tries to match you vs. someone with a similar MMR. The "Favored" system then compares *your* current points to *your opponent's* MMR to determine how many points you will get for a win.

This is why at the beginning of a season, you get so many points for a win and lose 1-4 for a loss. Your points haven't caught up to your MMR yet, so you're getting a ton of points for fighting people with an MMR much higher than your point total, but still equal to your MMR.

Hard to wrap your head around at first, but the chart in that thread is very helpful for it.
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
July 31 2011 04:33 GMT
#14
On July 31 2011 08:06 Adastrom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:25 Adastrom wrote:
LOLOLOL, THIS GUY SOUNDS A LOT LIKE GRANT


User was warned for this post


Who are you and how do you know my name/id/Match history?


Its derek, and i was bored so i checked your match history to see ur rank


You're creepy.
I'm an old man now
Adastrom
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada219 Posts
July 31 2011 12:38 GMT
#15
On July 31 2011 13:33 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:06 Adastrom wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:25 Adastrom wrote:
LOLOLOL, THIS GUY SOUNDS A LOT LIKE GRANT


User was warned for this post


Who are you and how do you know my name/id/Match history?


Its derek, and i was bored so i checked your match history to see ur rank


You're creepy.


stfu, boredem gets ppl to become creepy ):
Lol pvz
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