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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 23 2011 15:38 GMT
#21
i watched the first episode of the new MLP stuff, it was shit.

i honestly dont understand what all the fuss is about.

and transformers isnt that bad, if they removed token hot chick from all 3 movies they would actually be alright.
DocNemesis
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Philippines446 Posts
July 23 2011 16:17 GMT
#22
On July 24 2011 00:38 turdburgler wrote:
i watched the first episode of the new MLP stuff, it was shit.

i honestly dont understand what all the fuss is about.

and transformers isnt that bad, if they removed token hot chick from all 3 movies they would actually be alright.


To each his own, man.

Personally the Transformers movies aside from the first one were just giving me migraines. Even without the token chicks, if the movies were directed properly, they would be good.

MLP as I mentioned is simple in every way yet complex in it's own way. Main characters are not as stereotypical as I expected them to be and it's one of the first cartoons that actually made me laugh. It wasn't a sheer product placement series but an actual cartoon series.
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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
July 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#23
I've seen a few clips and been tempted to watch it. It seems to interest me, can someone explain why? Kinda scary.
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 17:56:58
July 23 2011 17:56 GMT
#24
On July 24 2011 00:38 turdburgler wrote:
i watched the first episode of the new MLP stuff, it was shit.

i honestly dont understand what all the fuss is about.

to be honest, the first two episodes are probably the worst ones of the show actually (along with ep 8, 17 and 18)

the eps get really amazing from ep 9 onwards, and again I'll say that people who want to give this a try should probably start with ep 13 that I linked in on the first page, as it happens to be probably the most accessible episode and should also be able to hook most people into watching more

ep 9 is also a very good introductory ep I guess (don't worry about not watching the eps in order, only a very few eps are actually linked together storywise)
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
July 23 2011 17:58 GMT
#25
IMO, Adventure Time and Regular Show > MLP.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if I find myself falling down into blind bronyism should I accidentally watch an episode or two.
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 23 2011 18:45 GMT
#26
On July 23 2011 21:31 Ikonn wrote:
this show may have unironically the worst fanbase on the recent internet


I read this as "unicornially" and I'm not dyslexic. shows what this show has done to me.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 23 2011 19:00 GMT
#27
It's not bad, but I like well made kids shows in general. Liked Avatar the last airbender and powerpuffs. Just don't have the time to watch them.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Fireflies
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom211 Posts
July 23 2011 19:36 GMT
#28
On July 24 2011 00:38 DocNemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:31 Ikonn wrote:
this show may have unironically the worst fanbase on the recent internet


Nah, least their faith is well-placed. Unlike other fanbases that ick me out.


MLP fans are pretty much on the same level as furries. I'm not sure you're in a position to be judging fans of anything.
One giant leap for mankind
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 19:39:15
July 23 2011 19:38 GMT
#29
On July 23 2011 20:25 rupert wrote:
It's from the same people that made the Powerpuff Girls. What were you expecting. As of today, it's still one of the coolest theme songs in cartoons. About 20% cooler, in fact.



Damn...

My head was jumping like a bean to the song ):

For the record: Fuck Transformers



FUCK YEAH
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Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
July 23 2011 20:26 GMT
#30
On July 23 2011 23:20 Squarewalker wrote:
welcome to the herd @OP.

I was highly skeptical for an extremely long while as well, thinking that it is just the biggest organized troll in history. But then I saw most of the forums I go to getting invaded by this MLP: FiM craze as well. And never before has irony been so undistinguishable from sincere interest, as most posts seemed very honest, coming from even previously thought-to-be rather coldhearted elitists who however seemed to have got somehow converted and joined this fandom.

Ironically, I got converted after seeing this TL blog about the show: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=199658 and had honestly never been so happy before in my entire life, so I have one more thing to thank TL for. It's still irrational and inexplicable how this show manages to have such an extremely positive effect on most people but yeah, in the end the reason doesn't even really matter I guess.

Also this TL blog comparing people from the SC2 scene and MLP is fucking awesome as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234247


People who want to give this show a try should start with ep 13:

Got ~half way through and got bored. I was intrigued as the internet doesn't seem to want to stfu about it, but I don't see the appeal. It's no spongebob, that's for sure.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
July 23 2011 21:36 GMT
#31
On July 24 2011 05:26 Hairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 23:20 Squarewalker wrote:
welcome to the herd @OP.

I was highly skeptical for an extremely long while as well, thinking that it is just the biggest organized troll in history. But then I saw most of the forums I go to getting invaded by this MLP: FiM craze as well. And never before has irony been so undistinguishable from sincere interest, as most posts seemed very honest, coming from even previously thought-to-be rather coldhearted elitists who however seemed to have got somehow converted and joined this fandom.

Ironically, I got converted after seeing this TL blog about the show: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=199658 and had honestly never been so happy before in my entire life, so I have one more thing to thank TL for. It's still irrational and inexplicable how this show manages to have such an extremely positive effect on most people but yeah, in the end the reason doesn't even really matter I guess.

Also this TL blog comparing people from the SC2 scene and MLP is fucking awesome as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234247


People who want to give this show a try should start with ep 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDnNqSVw0v8

Got ~half way through and got bored. I was intrigued as the internet doesn't seem to want to stfu about it, but I don't see the appeal. It's no spongebob, that's for sure.


Hah, posts like this make me feel old. I'm only 23 and SpongeBob was years past my cartoon-watching days.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
July 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#32
On July 24 2011 06:36 RANDOMCL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:26 Hairy wrote:
On July 23 2011 23:20 Squarewalker wrote:
welcome to the herd @OP.

I was highly skeptical for an extremely long while as well, thinking that it is just the biggest organized troll in history. But then I saw most of the forums I go to getting invaded by this MLP: FiM craze as well. And never before has irony been so undistinguishable from sincere interest, as most posts seemed very honest, coming from even previously thought-to-be rather coldhearted elitists who however seemed to have got somehow converted and joined this fandom.

Ironically, I got converted after seeing this TL blog about the show: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=199658 and had honestly never been so happy before in my entire life, so I have one more thing to thank TL for. It's still irrational and inexplicable how this show manages to have such an extremely positive effect on most people but yeah, in the end the reason doesn't even really matter I guess.

Also this TL blog comparing people from the SC2 scene and MLP is fucking awesome as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234247


People who want to give this show a try should start with ep 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDnNqSVw0v8

Got ~half way through and got bored. I was intrigued as the internet doesn't seem to want to stfu about it, but I don't see the appeal. It's no spongebob, that's for sure.


Hah, posts like this make me feel old. I'm only 23 and SpongeBob was years past my cartoon-watching days.

I'm uhh... *cough* 24. I picked up spongebob when I "should" have been out at raves getting pissed and having one night stands, or something :D
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 23 2011 22:34 GMT
#33
On July 24 2011 06:36 RANDOMCL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:26 Hairy wrote:
On July 23 2011 23:20 Squarewalker wrote:
welcome to the herd @OP.

I was highly skeptical for an extremely long while as well, thinking that it is just the biggest organized troll in history. But then I saw most of the forums I go to getting invaded by this MLP: FiM craze as well. And never before has irony been so undistinguishable from sincere interest, as most posts seemed very honest, coming from even previously thought-to-be rather coldhearted elitists who however seemed to have got somehow converted and joined this fandom.

Ironically, I got converted after seeing this TL blog about the show: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=199658 and had honestly never been so happy before in my entire life, so I have one more thing to thank TL for. It's still irrational and inexplicable how this show manages to have such an extremely positive effect on most people but yeah, in the end the reason doesn't even really matter I guess.

Also this TL blog comparing people from the SC2 scene and MLP is fucking awesome as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234247


People who want to give this show a try should start with ep 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDnNqSVw0v8

Got ~half way through and got bored. I was intrigued as the internet doesn't seem to want to stfu about it, but I don't see the appeal. It's no spongebob, that's for sure.


Hah, posts like this make me feel old. I'm only 23 and SpongeBob was years past my cartoon-watching days.


Season 2-3-4 of SpongeBob were the shit man! 22 here.

To be honest, it was during the times of Dexter's Laboratory that Cartoons got good.
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Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 22:56:50
July 23 2011 22:53 GMT
#34
On July 24 2011 07:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 06:36 RANDOMCL wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:26 Hairy wrote:
On July 23 2011 23:20 Squarewalker wrote:
welcome to the herd @OP.

I was highly skeptical for an extremely long while as well, thinking that it is just the biggest organized troll in history. But then I saw most of the forums I go to getting invaded by this MLP: FiM craze as well. And never before has irony been so undistinguishable from sincere interest, as most posts seemed very honest, coming from even previously thought-to-be rather coldhearted elitists who however seemed to have got somehow converted and joined this fandom.

Ironically, I got converted after seeing this TL blog about the show: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=199658 and had honestly never been so happy before in my entire life, so I have one more thing to thank TL for. It's still irrational and inexplicable how this show manages to have such an extremely positive effect on most people but yeah, in the end the reason doesn't even really matter I guess.

Also this TL blog comparing people from the SC2 scene and MLP is fucking awesome as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234247


People who want to give this show a try should start with ep 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDnNqSVw0v8

Got ~half way through and got bored. I was intrigued as the internet doesn't seem to want to stfu about it, but I don't see the appeal. It's no spongebob, that's for sure.


Hah, posts like this make me feel old. I'm only 23 and SpongeBob was years past my cartoon-watching days.


Season 2-3-4 of SpongeBob were the shit man! 22 here.

To be honest, it was during the times of Dexter's Laboratory that Cartoons got good.

There's plenty of cartoons that are actually perfectly entertaining for anyone. I guess the logic is lots of parents are going to be watching WITH their children, and there's no reason why a cartoon can't entertain all. There's a quote from someone that would be relevant..... brb

EDIT: found it!


"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
— C.S. Lewis

Now, let's all go and watch spongebob squarepants!
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 23:12:19
July 23 2011 23:07 GMT
#35
My Little Pony is one of only 2 shows I actually watch these days. So good! :D

Edit: A wee bit shameless but might as well toss this in here: MLP -> Sc2 Pro Comparisons
yeti
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States258 Posts
July 26 2011 02:28 GMT
#36
For the past 3 years, I have been addicted to watching starcraft. I have wasted thousands of hours on the sport, and never thought anything could come close to it. But, in the past 2 days I have watched every episode of MLP -FIM. Many of them twice. Episode 11, 4 times. And spent 0 hours on starcraft. As a warning to all of team liquid: MLP is addicting, watch at your own risk.
the absurd is sin without god
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50105 Posts
July 26 2011 02:58 GMT
#37
On July 26 2011 11:28 yeti wrote:
For the past 3 years, I have been addicted to watching starcraft. I have wasted thousands of hours on the sport, and never thought anything could come close to it. But, in the past 2 days I have watched every episode of MLP -FIM. Many of them twice. Episode 11, 4 times. And spent 0 hours on starcraft. As a warning to all of team liquid: MLP is addicting, watch at your own risk.


If only someone tried to make My Little Nony to fuse the two so we can watch the show while still being addicted to Starcraft.
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TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
July 26 2011 05:01 GMT
#38
MY LITTLE PONY!

Now waiting on season 2! If you want to start off, I would suggest watching episode 3 onwards. It starts off cutesy funny and then eventually becomes something too damn awesome for words.

+ Show Spoiler +
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
— C.S. Lewis

Makes me feel even better about this :D

I love Pinkie Pie, episode 15 sealed the deal for me. Lauren Faust is a goddess
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Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
July 26 2011 05:28 GMT
#39
And my buddies at work made fun of me for saying I loved My Little Pony...

Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4332 Posts
July 26 2011 06:41 GMT
#40
I resisted forever...

Now I am one of them. I am a bronie. =(
So wait? I'm bad? =(
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