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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 21 2011 17:15 GMT
#41
On June 22 2011 02:11 Azuroz wrote:
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On June 22 2011 02:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
My god I look terrible in almost every photo, serious exercise to be done before Winter to get back in shape.


it dosnt matter, i'm just worried about the lack of top-hattage :>.


http://twitpic.com/5efn7c

Better?
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#42
On June 22 2011 02:15 Tanksenior wrote:
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On June 22 2011 02:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
My god I look terrible in almost every photo, serious exercise to be done before Winter to get back in shape.


I think more sleep would help an awful lot as well ;P


5 hours over 3 days approximately. Not good, not at all.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#43
Great cocasting TB with MC. Should consider giving him a permanent gig :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
June 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#44
On June 22 2011 02:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
Great cocasting TB with MC. Should consider giving him a permanent gig :B

That might be stretching it, but it was damn awesome to hear MC comment on the games. Really shows that he loves the foreign scene and it let us all get a little bit inside his head.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#45
On June 22 2011 02:20 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
Great cocasting TB with MC. Should consider giving him a permanent gig :B

That might be stretching it, but it was damn awesome to hear MC comment on the games. Really shows that he loves the foreign scene and it let us all get a little bit inside his head.


I'm clearly joking.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 21 2011 17:23 GMT
#46
Great post man! It's nice to hear such a positive tone from you. Lately it seems like I only hear about negative posts from you. Not really your fault I think, I just tend to "hear" about drama instead of something positive.

Anyway, keep up the great work. Anytime you're ever feeling down you should remember this moment and future moments like this to come.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
June 21 2011 17:23 GMT
#47
On June 22 2011 02:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:20 ellirc wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
Great cocasting TB with MC. Should consider giving him a permanent gig :B

That might be stretching it, but it was damn awesome to hear MC comment on the games. Really shows that he loves the foreign scene and it let us all get a little bit inside his head.


I'm clearly joking.

I know I was just putting my opinion out there as well.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
June 21 2011 17:24 GMT
#48
First, heartfelt must go out to TB and the rest of the casters at Dreamhack. For me, along with thousands upon thousands of others, it was a weekend of entertainment, drama and oftentimes exhilaration about StarCraft.

Second, thank you specifically TB for this write-up. It was amazing watching and listening to the tournament. It is incredibly nice to get a glimpse of the thoughts and the experiences of those who were there; players, casters and live spectators. I think it really reinforces just how much so many of us want to be there. Perhaps so much so that many more of us will take time out of busy schedules and tight budget to make the trip to the next Dreamhack, the next MLG. As such, not only is it a treat for us as spectators and fans, it is also immensly helpful to the growth of the tournament scenes.

Finally, a few thoughts about the TB phenomenon.

Thank you for acknowledging that the fans are more important than the haters and the trolls. I sincerely hope that most of the scene will come not only to realise this, but also to implement this truth in practice and in conduct.

The truth of the matter is that not everyone will like anyone. And another truth is that often, the negative feedback trumps the positives. It feels disheartening to see this, be it in feedback threads, in live report threads or just in pure discussion threads. Therefore, it just feels so good to have these events go down that reinforce the positives, the elation and the good sides as such of the community.

About casters. No-one is perfect. In some respects, the SCII community has been spoiled rotten by the trifecta of Day9, Tasteless and Artosis. They are fantastic. And I think the fact of the matter is that they, as commentators, are unsurpassed in the scene even relative to professional players. E-sports is extremely young. It is undeveloped and unrefined. It has great potential, it evokes heartfelt passion and it is growing fast. But for right now, people are still learning how to live with it, how to evolve it. We do not know the end product of professional SCII; everyone has to try their best to fit into something they do not quite know the shape of. But those three, for whatever reason, are so good at it they become beacons, they are icons.

But they are not enough. And even though they are incredibly good at what they do, even though they come as close as one can in this environment to being universally appreciated, liked and respected, we cannot know that they are the only standard of good. As much as it is easy to point to any one of them when the question of 'how should one cast SCII' is asked, it does not mean that as the scene grows and matures, one will not only look at them as pioneers but ultimately unfinished and merely the portent of things to come.

The scene needs casters. And it does not hurt it in any way to have diversity. I hope all casters, just as all players, desire and aspire to be great. Ultimately, we will have casters who come from different molds, with different personalities and hold different casting ideals. And every single one of those will be hated upon, they will be told that they are infinitely inferior and that they are intensly disliked. And in the end, if they are good enough, if they strike a chord with the audience, they will prosper and in the future set new standards.

To me, this scene, this community is special. This sport is what I would rather be watching and is what I want to play. Due to it being so young, it is also extremely volatile. Whereas a lot of people are going to complain, be rude and in general only want to insult whatever they do not care for, there are also thousands of people who only want to see the scene grow. A lot of said people are going to criticise. In the heat of an argument, a lot of us will pass over from constructive criticism into what is very much unconstructive criticism. A lot of us will not know how to interact with others on the internet when feelings get hurt, when we feel injustice. But the ones who make this community great will know when we are wrong afterwards. And we will continue to debate, we will continue to try to improve and we will sure as all hell continue to devote time to listen, watch and interact.

And everyone who felt like I did (and like you did according to this post) when HuK won will be watching future tournaments. And we will love, hate and discuss players, casters and tournament organisers. Because that feeling, encapsulated in the mere seconds from the gg until you are done shouting, cheering, smiling, tearing up...that feeling is so, so very good.
DocNemesis
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Philippines446 Posts
June 21 2011 17:24 GMT
#49
I did not watch much of your casting, TB. Though I do know that you did a damn fine job. :D
Here to kick ass....with Violence. And I got a blog site: http://nemesistrestkon.wordpress.com
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 21 2011 17:26 GMT
#50
On June 22 2011 02:23 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:20 ellirc wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
Great cocasting TB with MC. Should consider giving him a permanent gig :B

That might be stretching it, but it was damn awesome to hear MC comment on the games. Really shows that he loves the foreign scene and it let us all get a little bit inside his head.


I'm clearly joking.

I know I was just putting my opinion out there as well.


WHY DO YOU USE ME t_________________________________t
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
June 21 2011 17:30 GMT
#51
Good write up and a good read. Just ignore Dave, he is hating xD
Luppa <3
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
June 21 2011 17:33 GMT
#52
Loved your casting! The way you handled dual-casting with MC was perfect. You fed him questions he could easily understand and it made everything soooooo entertaining! Keep up the good work.
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
blamous
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States377 Posts
June 21 2011 17:37 GMT
#53
Thanks TB - got to re-live a little of the finals through your eyes and got nerd chills all over again. :-)

What a great event. Thanks for your part in it and I look forward to the 'positive only' TB experience. ;-)
Get YOUR games cast on NuubCast!
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
June 21 2011 17:38 GMT
#54
On June 22 2011 02:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:11 Azuroz wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
My god I look terrible in almost every photo, serious exercise to be done before Winter to get back in shape.


it dosnt matter, i'm just worried about the lack of top-hattage :>.


http://twitpic.com/5efn7c

Better?


ohh thats what im talking about, such a baller
Team NSHoseo <3
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
June 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#55
Fantastic event overall. Kudos to Dreamhack, the players all the casters and everyone else involved. Great post as well
pk_Galvion
Profile Joined March 2011
United States7 Posts
June 21 2011 17:45 GMT
#56
Excellent job TB! When you and MC casted together I seriously felt awesome. At that point in time - the universe had nerdchills.
March boldy, without fear.
Solai
Profile Joined September 2009
204 Posts
June 21 2011 18:13 GMT
#57
Ecxellent recap. I appreciate your insights of Dreamhack! Keep up the good work!
taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
June 21 2011 18:18 GMT
#58
<3 TB
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 18:31:10
June 21 2011 18:29 GMT
#59
I always enjoy reading these recaps. Thanks for that

I liked your casting all the time when I tuned in. Obviously I watched the main "stage" (tent) most of the time, but if the games weren't on or weren't interesting I went to your stream second. I liked when you had a cocaster but I also liked the solo casting. I don't think anyone in the world can solo cast Starcraft as well as TB.

I have one point of criticism but it's a small thing so you don't have to read it.
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Sometimes you would make small remarks about the game in passing that really struck a nerve with me. Two of the examples that really stick in my mind are "Well that's PvP in a nutshell ladies and gentlemen - a giant coinflip" and "I thought you had to attack to win this game but I guess I was mistaken."

Those aren't exact quotes but they carry the same meaning. Those two comments (and several others like them) cheapen the value of competition and players.

I've never found your admitted lack of game knowledge to be a problem to me. You know you don't know the game that well and you don't make suggestions to the players in your commentary or criticize their play, so it's a total non-issue for me.

All the best for Winter ^^!
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Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
June 21 2011 18:55 GMT
#60
I think you did a great job! I honestly think you have one of the best casting voices in all of SC2, how do you do it?
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