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Analyzing MLG Columbus

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Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 07:04:26
June 06 2011 06:09 GMT
#1
So with some interest I decided to download every replay of MLG Columbus and analyze them. With the help of my friend SC2 Gears I am going to show you what this sample of what the best of the best are doing with this really solid cross section. Many of these builds in the wake will be copied so its worth checking out as well as other cool stats. Let's dive into some numbers.

1. Who were the real troopers of MLG Columbus?

A few players deserve recognition for playing tons and tons of games. These are players who simply played the most games.

First we have oGsMC who played an astonishing 26 games this weekend going 19 and 7. Second with 20 games are the players SjoW and ThorZain with Sjow going 9 and 11 and ThorZain going 13 and 7. If you are curious, the winner MMA went 14 and 2, Losira went 12 and 4, and Idra went 10 and 8.

2. Build Orders:

Analyzing the build orders of the entire tournament a few very successful build orders came through:

Protoss:

PvP: Not many of these this tournament sadly, the standard (Gateway, Gas, Core, Gas) was the most used going 5 and 4. Different openings that were successful but only once used were the standard but getting your 2nd pylon after building your core, and Gateway, Gas, Core, Gate.

PvT: Best openers seem to be this 1 gas opener (Gateway, gas, core) followed likely by an early attack, and an expand based build (Gate, gas, core, nexus). Notable the most tried is the standard (gateway, gas, core, gas), but in PvT went 9-13 suggesting it might not be as effective as these new openings.

PvZ: The standard Gate, gas, core, gas just lost against Zerg, going 5 and 8. Successful PvZ builds that worked was the forge fast expand, but the Zergs were showing that they are adapting to it. Cannon rushing was sadly successful at MLG as well as quick rushes for air. Seems though that the forge fast expand overall did the best vs Zerg.

Terran:

TvP: The 1 rax fast expand followed by 2 more rax was by far the best opener at MLG, going 10 and 4 vs Protoss. In two instances a 2 rax pressure build did work.

TvT: Not too surprisingly the Marine Tank build showed itself to be a dominant beast in TvT. with 1 rax 1 factory followed by an expansion working well as well. I don't think that without watching all the replays there's a ton to learn from TvT this time.

TvZ: The 2rax pressure did amazing at MLG not losing a single time against Zerg the five time is showed up. Besides that and oen instance of a rax fast expand, Terran got pretty badly bloodied overall vs Zerg at MLG. Terran pros are likely going to be hard at work to combat Zerg for the next big event.

Zerg:

ZvP: ZvP was essentially rewritten during MLG, with many successful strategies combating Protoss coming unveiled for the first time and really there was no standards that really worked. First of all, hatch first builds worked only 2 times in ZvP, so Pool first seems to just be the way of the matchup (Both times they worked one was with many crawlers and one with roaches soon after). Double expanding was also quite common in winning BOs for Zerg. Others involved many early roaches being successful as the response to that early Protoss air harass.

ZvT: Hatchery first was very successful vs Terran. Most successful being Hatch, pool, crawler, 1 or 2 gases, lair. Also notable was a large use of Roaches and not just Ling Baneling in early game. Maybe I am out of touch but that rang new to me. One of the most interesting build orders involves beating the Terran and then GGing before he can

ZvZ: In ZvZ as well Hatch first won out over pool first. There are slightly more who went Banelings either before or instead of Roaches, but many got both early.

3. Maps:

Maps by Popularity:

Metalopolis - 45
Shakuras Plateau - 45
Tal'Darim Altar - 37
Shattered Temple - 34
Xel'Naga Caverns - 33
Testbug - 14 (I love this map btw)
Typhon Peaks - 11

Race Win Percentages by Map:

Metalopolis P:42% T:48% Z:55%
Shakuras Plateau: P:42% T:52% Z:51%
Shattered Temple P: 72%(JJJJEEEZUZ) T:38% Z:56%
Tal'Darim Altar: P:52% T:42% Z:57%
Testbug: P:42% T:33% Z:66%
Typhon Peaks: P:33% T:66% Z:40%
Xel'Naga Caverns: P:46% T:50% Z:52%

It seems the best map for Protoss is Shattered Temple, for Terran is Typhon Peaks, and for Zerg is Testbug. The most balanced map seems to be Xel'Naga Caverns and the least balanced seems to be Typhon Peaks.

4. APM:

Top-10 Average APMs:
1. SeleCT (376)
2. Losira (364)
3. ViBE (354)
4. MMA (352)
5. MC (340)
6. July (320)
7. KawaiiRice (308)
8. mOoNan (288)
9. MorroW (286)
10. Fenix (283)

I won't be rude so I am not naming names, but the lowest APM recorded was 141.

I hope you found this little blip of data interesting.

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TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
June 06 2011 06:13 GMT
#2
Interesting info
Is that in Sc2 apm? if so O_O!!
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
June 06 2011 06:17 GMT
#3
am I supposed to be MSi? (FnaticMSiKR)
o_o;
and dude losira is so fast wtf....
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 06:23:25
June 06 2011 06:21 GMT
#4

Losira's APM

EDIT: and he keeps up that high APM even while fidgeting with his hair, glasses and headphones half the time (at least his stage matches)
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Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
June 06 2011 06:22 GMT
#5
On June 06 2011 15:17 KawaiiRice wrote:
am I supposed to be MSi? (FnaticMSiKR)
o_o;
and dude losira is so fast wtf....


I fixed it for you.
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 06:27:57
June 06 2011 06:27 GMT
#6
On June 06 2011 15:13 TheMunkey wrote:
Interesting info
Is that in Sc2 apm? if so O_O!!


I want to know too o.O. My BW apm is like 50-80 more than my SC2 apm and those look like BW apms.

edit: Well, not if it's SC2 apm or not but how that apm was retrieved (is it the apm that's displayed on replays?)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 06 2011 06:29 GMT
#7
I must know the lowest APM...

There were a lot of people there who weren't pros that were just in it for the experience, probably one of them.

Unless it was like TLO or something ridic haha
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 06 2011 06:32 GMT
#8
Theres no way 141 is the lowest APM lol. Axslav has between 70-95 APM, I don't t hink I've ever seen him go over 120 APM throughout a whole game, and he made it pretty far out of the open bracket and into top 28.
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Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 06:34:32
June 06 2011 06:33 GMT
#9
I only analyzed replays from the groups and the winner/ loser double eliminations so none of the open bracket people. He is a famous player though I was surprised.
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
June 06 2011 06:34 GMT
#10
This doesn't include the open bracket right? Thorzain should have played 14 rounds, meaning he had to have at least 28 games.

6 open round, 5 pool play, 3 championship losers.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 06 2011 06:35 GMT
#11
Also, since I think its like 47 real life seconds = 1 in game minute, Losira's APM is roughly 498 APM in real time lol. 480 for Select, even Ret has 356 real time APM
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 06 2011 06:36 GMT
#12
On June 06 2011 15:33 Tristan wrote:
I only analyzed replays from the groups and the winner/ loser double eliminations so none of the open bracket people. He is a famous player though I was surprised.


Well considering how strong of a player Axslav is, and the fact that he has 50% less than the apparent lowest you found, I don't think it'd be a big deal to "expose him"

Plenty of players have under 150 APM that are high level players such as an Axslav, or Minigun, etc.
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McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
June 06 2011 06:36 GMT
#13
Watching Losiras screen gave me headaches. He was so fast I dont know how he could even see what he was doing.
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Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
June 06 2011 06:41 GMT
#14
On June 06 2011 15:36 Zlasher wrote:
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On June 06 2011 15:33 Tristan wrote:
I only analyzed replays from the groups and the winner/ loser double eliminations so none of the open bracket people. He is a famous player though I was surprised.


Well considering how strong of a player Axslav is, and the fact that he has 50% less than the apparent lowest you found, I don't think it'd be a big deal to "expose him"

Plenty of players have under 150 APM that are high level players such as an Axslav, or Minigun, etc.

I know that's how people should think, but you know how people get. Also you never know he might be really ashamed of it. Nah I'm gas pooling and playing it safe here.
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Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
June 06 2011 06:48 GMT
#15
If you get a chance, spec a game with Nyomu (you can find him in the XPN or CSO korean channels) he's a nice guy and beats many of the top NA players pretty well.... he's pretty crazy to watch though. I just always feel bad he can't compete because his parents freak if they catch him playing the game haha.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 06 2011 06:51 GMT
#16
Pm it to me then! I must know!!

SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 06 2011 07:00 GMT
#17
Psh, if you said who it was everyone would be like.. "Oh...okay, everyone knows that already" xD

So anticlimactic. I thought you were gonna give me something epic like Tyler or Idra or something!
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
June 06 2011 07:01 GMT
#18
The APM is real time (BW APM), not SC2 apm I believe... Also lowest APM is probably Sjow, that's no secret really.
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Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
June 06 2011 07:06 GMT
#19
I edited the APM chart because I totally didn't see MorroW and I noticed that Losire changed accounts during the tournament and for the account he spent a majority of the games in he was at 364.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 06 2011 07:10 GMT
#20
On June 06 2011 16:01 BG1 wrote:
The APM is real time (BW APM), not SC2 apm I believe... Also lowest APM is probably Sjow, that's no secret really.


Good guess XD
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
June 06 2011 07:36 GMT
#21
This is really cool! thanks so much, these are really interesting stats!
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Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
June 06 2011 07:38 GMT
#22
On June 06 2011 15:09 Tristan wrote:
I won't be rude so I am not naming names, but the lowest APM recorded was 141.



I call shenanigans, there is no way Sjow's APM is that high
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 06 2011 08:06 GMT
#23
Yeah true, Sjow was like 100-120 from what I remember, maybe he dialed it up a bit during MLG due to the atmosphere. But everyone knows it, he himself has said before IEM Europe that he thinks that he will not go to Korea because he doesn't think his APM is good enough to compete there for much longer. Apparently he felt like his careers lifespan will be limited due to his APM in the upcoming years.
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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
June 06 2011 08:48 GMT
#24
141 apm = about 90 SC2 apm. Sounds about right for Sjow.
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