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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
June 05 2011 04:04 GMT
#21
how about the very obvious solution: referee's discretion?

this isn't rocket science. i've run tournaments of various events for over 15 years and we often deviate from the strict letter of the law in favor of the reasonable "common sense" solution when everyone affected agrees.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
June 05 2011 04:38 GMT
#22
Pokebunny got screwed too somehow , apparently he was told a different time and showed up late, got him dq'ed out of a big match where he woulda went to winners bracket prolly

It just sucks to travel to lans and get dq'ed cuz of stuff like this. With all the technical delays and all you should be able to accommodate your players with reasonable decisions.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 05 2011 04:41 GMT
#23
Not everyone is perfect, and like you said leaving a bit earlier to a huge event would have been the correct choice. At least you made it out of the elevator and did not get hurt. Big tournaments have a lot of stuff on the go at the same time, a little bit of leniency could have been given, but who knows how many other things the ref and commissioner were dealing with at that time.
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
June 05 2011 05:21 GMT
#24
they waited almost 20 minutes for whiplash in whiplash vs butteryllama... he didn't even have a good excuse!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 05 2011 05:34 GMT
#25
You should also mention that:

The matches didn't end at 12:30, they ended at closer to 2:30 AM.

Tournament organizers told people who had won all 4 rounds of winners bracket that their matches wouldn't start til 11 AM on day 2.

The matches then started at 10 AM, and plyaers who were on a roll like CatZ and Pokebunny both had to forfeit their first of the double elimination event, when they were told by tourny organizers matches would start til an hour afterwards.
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Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
June 05 2011 05:38 GMT
#26
Should have taken the stairs you lazy bastard
HeadDesk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States171 Posts
June 05 2011 07:03 GMT
#27
On June 05 2011 14:34 Zlasher wrote:
You should also mention that:

The matches didn't end at 12:30, they ended at closer to 2:30 AM.

Tournament organizers told people who had won all 4 rounds of winners bracket that their matches wouldn't start til 11 AM on day 2.

The matches then started at 10 AM, and plyaers who were on a roll like CatZ and Pokebunny both had to forfeit their first of the double elimination event, when they were told by tourny organizers matches would start til an hour afterwards.


This sucks worse than the OP (no offense, you definitely shouldn't have been DQ'd either).

BUT.. when MLG STAFF tell the players to show up 1 hour later than they need to and get a DQ - that is extremely unprofessional and inexcusable on MLG's part. I'm extremely disappointed with this.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6670 Posts
June 05 2011 08:01 GMT
#28
The fact that MLG is a big tournament shouldn't help the argument that people should just suck it up. They should have the ability to coordinate and treat the players right considering the money that's involved. These kinds of weird situations like Pokebunny's just serve to put players on tilt and that's already too much pressure in a big LAN.

As for OP, I know your team called the officials, but it's not as bad as for instance them saying you could play and then backing out on their word when you got there, right?
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Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
June 05 2011 08:33 GMT
#29
Bummer man:/ Best of luck to you and your team in the future.
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guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
June 05 2011 08:58 GMT
#30
I can understand why they have a no tolerance rule. They can't be having everyone coming up with some kind of excuse then having everyone be late, but for something like an mlg something is always going to come up with that many people. It's a big deal for people to come and compete in the events, it's not really profitable and they're doing it more for the experience. No one's maliciously trying to abuse the 15min late rule afaik so really they should let it slide.
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
June 05 2011 10:36 GMT
#31
Even though it wasn't your fault, unfortunately I don't think you have a case here. The tournament admins have a strict schedule to adhere to, and bending the rules that were already set in stone before the season started is no bueno. Sorry bro, shit happens, and apparently it happened to you that morning.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 11:07 GMT
#32
On June 05 2011 16:03 HeadDesk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 14:34 Zlasher wrote:
You should also mention that:

The matches didn't end at 12:30, they ended at closer to 2:30 AM.

Tournament organizers told people who had won all 4 rounds of winners bracket that their matches wouldn't start til 11 AM on day 2.

The matches then started at 10 AM, and plyaers who were on a roll like CatZ and Pokebunny both had to forfeit their first of the double elimination event, when they were told by tourny organizers matches would start til an hour afterwards.


This sucks worse than the OP (no offense, you definitely shouldn't have been DQ'd either).

BUT.. when MLG STAFF tell the players to show up 1 hour later than they need to and get a DQ - that is extremely unprofessional and inexcusable on MLG's part. I'm extremely disappointed with this.



Yup, shit happens. Never leave it to the refs (MMA) and you should check with more than one official. My rule of thumb for competition is to always show up an hour early anyway so you can get settled in.
ShatterStar
Profile Joined December 2010
United States40 Posts
June 06 2011 01:34 GMT
#33
Were they well within their rights to DQ you, as stated by their rules? Sure. Was it however a smart decision? No.

For those saying, "Well they can't change the rules every time X happens." This isn't a player showing up late because he over slept, he had a real extenuating circumstance. If he had used that elevator earlier, nothing assures the response time would be the same, or the problem.

Because it would not have held up the tournament (as a best of series takes fluctuating amounts of time, we're talking 15mins in a series where players could play three 30-40 minute games, or three 7 minute games) it seemed like a no brainer to just let you two play. You're both paying customers as well as contestants.

So yeah, getting there early is always a good idea--but in this case it seemed like it would be no harm to allow you two to play considering the extenuating circumstance (plus the fact you made the aware of it ahead of time) and the fact your opponent was fine with playing you.

Hopefully it works out next time!
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
June 06 2011 01:55 GMT
#34
I am really really sorry dude. Sundance might be able to help, he is pretty cool and accommodating, hopefully something can be done because that just sucks.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 06 2011 02:18 GMT
#35
Handled sloppily by MLG
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
June 06 2011 05:36 GMT
#36
Stairs dude. Stairs.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
June 06 2011 05:46 GMT
#37
On June 06 2011 14:36 Zorkmid wrote:
Stairs dude. Stairs.


He's stuck in an elevator. How's he supposed to use the stairs?

I feel pretty bad for you, but sometimes that's just how it is. With a tournament that big it's pretty much impossible to accommodate everyone. They should alter the rules to maybe give you 10-15 minutes per game for the future though.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
June 06 2011 12:23 GMT
#38
On June 06 2011 14:46 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:36 Zorkmid wrote:
Stairs dude. Stairs.


He's stuck in an elevator. How's he supposed to use the stairs?

I feel pretty bad for you, but sometimes that's just how it is. With a tournament that big it's pretty much impossible to accommodate everyone. They should alter the rules to maybe give you 10-15 minutes per game for the future though.


I agree, starting a series 15 minutes late would cause every match after that to start late, it's a bit of a snowball effect and MLG can't really allow that to happen.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
June 06 2011 13:09 GMT
#39
Of course he should be DQ'ed, it's responsability of the players to show up on time, else the organizers would have to deal with ten BS excuses for every legitimate one. Not the OP's fault either though, shit happens. The warning if anything should be to leave very early for events you care about.
ChronoCat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
266 Posts
June 06 2011 13:15 GMT
#40
On June 06 2011 14:36 Zorkmid wrote:
Stairs dude. Stairs.


Yep because elevators get stuck all the time, right?
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