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BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
May 10 2011 10:39 GMT
#1
Recently came across an article about Sir Ian McKellen AKA Gandalf/Magneto heading up a program to counter homophobia in British schools. I thought it was suitable for a proportion of the population on the forums here, and I guess within the larger SC2 community (heck, the global community).

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Here's an excerpt:
"I'm not useless," McKellen asserts in my old school hall, "but when you use that word as an insulting adjective, that's what you're saying about me. So please, watch your language. Because if you don't, you mightn't watch your actions…" He goes on to tell how Ian Baynham [a 62-year-old gay] was recently killed in a homophobic hate attack by teenagers. "The girl who stamped on his head might have used 'gay' to mean anything rubbish and useless. And that probably convinced her that gay people were rubbish and useless – and don't deserve to live."


Link to article: McKellen takes gay tour to schools


Thoughts?

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Mithrandir
Profile Joined March 2011
United States99 Posts
May 10 2011 11:01 GMT
#2
Ian McKellen is awesome :D
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
May 10 2011 11:03 GMT
#3
Oooo... Only now i knew that he was gay...
No matter what he does, he still wont change my mind that liking another dude's penis is disgusting...

User was temp banned for this post.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
May 10 2011 11:11 GMT
#4
On a related note: sign this: http://www.allout.org/en/petition/uganda
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 11:14:04
May 10 2011 11:13 GMT
#5
On May 10 2011 20:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
Oooo... Only now i knew that he was gay...
No matter what he does, he still wont change my mind that liking another dude's penis is disgusting...

Imagine, for gay males, the thought of having sex with a women is equally disgusting.

*GASP*

btw:
Niel Patrick Harris is also gay
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(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
May 10 2011 11:26 GMT
#6
On May 10 2011 20:13 jacen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 20:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
Oooo... Only now i knew that he was gay...
No matter what he does, he still wont change my mind that liking another dude's penis is disgusting...

Imagine, for gay males, the thought of having sex with a women is equally disgusting.

*GASP*

btw:
Niel Patrick Harris is also gay
[image loading]


Is he? The more I know.
timestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada73 Posts
May 10 2011 11:26 GMT
#7
<3 Ian McKellen
"whoop whoop whoop whoop" - Dr. Zoidberg
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
May 10 2011 11:30 GMT
#8
Hating gay people is indefensible.

As far as I can tell the purpose of this thread is to discuss how young people use the word ""gay" to describe anything rubbish. Although it's an unfortunate development, the word "gay" was firstly misappropriated to mean "homosexual" rather than "Happy". Therefore I find the whole thing ironic. Fred Flintstone hasn't been able to have a "gay old time" without sniggers from the back for quite a while.
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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
May 10 2011 11:35 GMT
#9
On May 10 2011 20:26 goiflin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 20:13 jacen wrote:
btw:
Niel Patrick Harris is also gay
[image loading]


Is he? The more I know.

Yes he is. At least he is attending public events with his boyfriend, gives interview about him being gay and is in some sort of gay community (forgot what exactly).

Of course he could just be lying, but why would he.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Pathology
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada132 Posts
May 10 2011 11:53 GMT
#10
Racism/discrimination *can* be linked to inexperience or plain ole ignorance. Do you ever think we'll get rid of either of those things? No. However, I sure am glad for people like Mr Mckellen. Knowledge is power and I DON'T HAVE THE POWA BUT I SURE DO WANT IT! When I was a high school kid I had some assumptions about gay people and whatnot. Later I found out some of my closest friends were gay. Not the stereotypical lisp and flamboyant personalities. Guys and gals exactly like me. OMG GAY PEOPLE AREN'T DIFFERENT WAAAAT? Those silly misconceptions I had went right out the window hahahaah(even though such things should have been obvious)

As a sad side note, derogatory negative gay slang occasionally slips out of my mouth as a curseword. In my head I know it's wrong and as a conscious choice I choose NOT to say it and yet it still comes out in intense moments of anger or emotion. I still don't really get that and tis shameful.
No rest for the wicked
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4443 Posts
May 10 2011 12:14 GMT
#11
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
May 10 2011 12:20 GMT
#12
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
far less tolerant due to religious issues.

FTFY
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 10 2011 12:26 GMT
#13
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.

Homophobia's bad but racism is ok right?
Yhamm is the god of predictions
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
May 10 2011 12:30 GMT
#14
I don't see how people see someone else's sexual gender preferences disgusting, lol. (I don't say sexual preferences because some people have very twisted and harmful sexual preferences...) It's just a preference. The more you know people with different preferences of whatever sort, the more you realize they are pretty much just like you.

As for the education effort, I think it's great. Many people who may not /hate/ the LGBT community may still have subconscious prejudices as a result of cultural things-- like using gay in a derogatory way, or from people in their lives who are prejudice. Reminding students that people are people no matter their race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or beliefs, and asking them to think about their words and actions can only have a positive impact.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6451 Posts
May 10 2011 12:31 GMT
#15
On May 10 2011 21:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.

Homophobia's bad but racism is ok right?

Demographics and statistics are not racism.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
May 10 2011 12:35 GMT
#16
On May 10 2011 21:31 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 21:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.

Homophobia's bad but racism is ok right?

Demographics and statistics are not racism.


The conclusions you draw are not founded in any fact. You could just as easily argue that as this group is exposed to a less conservative culture, they will in fact begin to lose these prejudices. It's evident that many groups that migrate to the US lose many characteristics of their original cultures and become more and more 'American' as generations pass.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4443 Posts
May 10 2011 12:39 GMT
#17
On May 10 2011 21:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.

Homophobia's bad but racism is ok right?

Please , your ignorance of basic facts is frightening.

http://wps.ablongman.com/long_sobel_pto_1/40/10417/2666975.cw/content/index.html

People who identify themselves with the Democratic party tend to be more tolerant toward homosexuality. Republicans are less likely to accept homosexuality than Democrats. Among major ethnic groups, Hispanics are less tolerant to homosexuality: only 31 percent of Hispanic respondents believed homosexual behavior is acceptable (Kaiser/Pew, June 2002, Hispanics, 2,929).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 12:43:59
May 10 2011 12:43 GMT
#18
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.


Yeah, those damn liberals should be blaming the immigrants for the white people being homophobic.

They took our tolerance!

While I agree that there's probably more homophobic people with different cultural backgrounds that come to our countries (than native born people), there's plenty of people who were born and raised by people whose families have lived in these countries for hundreds of years, and are just as homophobic as the immigrants.

I'm not even sure why you brought this up in the first place. You can't just lay the blame on someone else, and refuse to improve yourself because they aren't.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 12:49:28
May 10 2011 12:44 GMT
#19
On May 10 2011 21:31 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 21:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.

Homophobia's bad but racism is ok right?

Demographics and statistics are not racism.

Depends how you use them, he's suggesting that immigrants are responsible for homophobia and by posting it here links them with the above bashing. The post's intent is pretty much in line with any politically charged post i've seen from nettles who loves throwing his far right wing agenda around trying to provoke people. 'These are facts' is such a cop-out, his post wasn't relevant. He just brought immigrants into it cause he loves his 'white australia' (america in this case) and saw a way to paint immigrants in a bad light behind the veil of spreading 'facts'.

On May 10 2011 21:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Please , your ignorance of basic facts is frightening.


I never said it wasn't true but why post it unless you're pushing some other agenda? I'm sure there are plenty of other facts about homophobia on the web that you could randomly post here.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
May 10 2011 12:46 GMT
#20
On May 10 2011 21:31 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 21:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 10 2011 21:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
The illegal Mexicans flooding into the USA are on a whole FAR more homophobic than the average white guy in the USA.Something left wing liberals try to ignore.As those Mexicans grow in population more and more thus homophobia will start getting more prevalent.

Similar thing is happening in the UK with the muslim and african immigrants over there , far less tolerant due to cultural issues.These are facts.

Homophobia's bad but racism is ok right?

Demographics and statistics are not racism.


1) A fact is not one just because you say it is.
2) We have no statistics here, but even if we did I've never seen a debate being resolved using statistics. You can provide statistics for any argument while rubbishing those of your opponent.
3) Demographics are just statistics so the same point applies, you just favoured tautology to reinforce your point.

It is plainly true that Christianity and Islam explictly forbids homosexuality, and this causes some people of all races to have homophobic views. It happens to be that those people who are immigrants to the UK and USA are more religeous than the populations which have historically lived there.

What's the phobia for being scared of religeous people, or since it's a rational fear does the word not exist?
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