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exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
May 03 2011 18:47 GMT
#61
So how old are you? I would like to know that because the older you are the more independent you can be from your dad. And thats an issue here.
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 20:43:28
May 03 2011 20:42 GMT
#62
On May 04 2011 00:53 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 23:12 57 Corvette wrote:
On May 03 2011 23:07 NPHarris wrote:
My dad believes in chemtrails and a bunch of other shit.
Gotta deal with it.


Uhhhhh. I saw the documentary on Chemtrails actually, and even though i believe they could do that stuff, I have serious doubts they actually would.

Back on topic, Yeah, I know he is joking and I am being too sensitive, but whatever. You can choose to accept racism as something to joke about, you can live racism, or you can choose to go against it. My dad likes to joke about it, and I go against it, so I just gotta make a compromise with my dad about saying racist things around me.

Edit: It seems that this blog has encouraged me to ban some people from my future blogs. Well, if you are banned from my blog, you can't read this, so yeah. Don't come here and post just to say I am a pussy (which I will admit, I pretty much am).


Wait what? Did you really ban people from your blog for disagreeing with you? I've read the whole post and there were none in there that were flames or direct insults. A few people said man up and get over it there is nothing you can do, which is a pretty reasonable opinion to hold, its pretty tough to change someone beliefs from 30+ years of reinforcement. I just can't fathom why you would have banned anyone.

As far as the original topic you said you have talked to your dad and he just makes racist counterarguments. Are his arguments actively supporting racist beliefs, or is he making those kind of jokes because he thinks they are funny?



On May 04 2011 01:44 Bosko wrote:
Get a sense of humor and stop being so emo.


Well, theres an example of a post I would ban for.

@Above, I am 18, and still fairly dependent on my parents (no job, been trying but no response)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
May 03 2011 20:45 GMT
#63
On May 04 2011 05:42 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 00:53 L_Master wrote:
On May 03 2011 23:12 57 Corvette wrote:
On May 03 2011 23:07 NPHarris wrote:
My dad believes in chemtrails and a bunch of other shit.
Gotta deal with it.


Uhhhhh. I saw the documentary on Chemtrails actually, and even though i believe they could do that stuff, I have serious doubts they actually would.

Back on topic, Yeah, I know he is joking and I am being too sensitive, but whatever. You can choose to accept racism as something to joke about, you can live racism, or you can choose to go against it. My dad likes to joke about it, and I go against it, so I just gotta make a compromise with my dad about saying racist things around me.

Edit: It seems that this blog has encouraged me to ban some people from my future blogs. Well, if you are banned from my blog, you can't read this, so yeah. Don't come here and post just to say I am a pussy (which I will admit, I pretty much am).


Wait what? Did you really ban people from your blog for disagreeing with you? I've read the whole post and there were none in there that were flames or direct insults. A few people said man up and get over it there is nothing you can do, which is a pretty reasonable opinion to hold, its pretty tough to change someone beliefs from 30+ years of reinforcement. I just can't fathom why you would have banned anyone.

As far as the original topic you said you have talked to your dad and he just makes racist counterarguments. Are his arguments actively supporting racist beliefs, or is he making those kind of jokes because he thinks they are funny?



Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 01:44 Bosko wrote:
Get a sense of humor and stop being so emo.


Well, theres an example of a post I would ban for.

@Above, I am 18, and still fairly dependent on my parents (no job, been trying but no response)

Honestly, why would you ban for that post? I find it pretty accurate.
Maybe you're noticing the problem way too much. Honestly, we can't judge you, but we also can't judge your father from the very limited, maybe manipulated information you've given us.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 20:55:17
May 03 2011 20:54 GMT
#64
On May 04 2011 05:45 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 05:42 57 Corvette wrote:
On May 04 2011 00:53 L_Master wrote:
On May 03 2011 23:12 57 Corvette wrote:
On May 03 2011 23:07 NPHarris wrote:
My dad believes in chemtrails and a bunch of other shit.
Gotta deal with it.


Uhhhhh. I saw the documentary on Chemtrails actually, and even though i believe they could do that stuff, I have serious doubts they actually would.

Back on topic, Yeah, I know he is joking and I am being too sensitive, but whatever. You can choose to accept racism as something to joke about, you can live racism, or you can choose to go against it. My dad likes to joke about it, and I go against it, so I just gotta make a compromise with my dad about saying racist things around me.

Edit: It seems that this blog has encouraged me to ban some people from my future blogs. Well, if you are banned from my blog, you can't read this, so yeah. Don't come here and post just to say I am a pussy (which I will admit, I pretty much am).


Wait what? Did you really ban people from your blog for disagreeing with you? I've read the whole post and there were none in there that were flames or direct insults. A few people said man up and get over it there is nothing you can do, which is a pretty reasonable opinion to hold, its pretty tough to change someone beliefs from 30+ years of reinforcement. I just can't fathom why you would have banned anyone.

As far as the original topic you said you have talked to your dad and he just makes racist counterarguments. Are his arguments actively supporting racist beliefs, or is he making those kind of jokes because he thinks they are funny?



On May 04 2011 01:44 Bosko wrote:
Get a sense of humor and stop being so emo.


Well, theres an example of a post I would ban for.

@Above, I am 18, and still fairly dependent on my parents (no job, been trying but no response)

Honestly, why would you ban for that post? I find it pretty accurate.
Maybe you're noticing the problem way too much. Honestly, we can't judge you, but we also can't judge your father from the very limited, maybe manipulated information you've given us.


If they are not going to take the time to write more than a 1-sentence reply, they are not adding anything to the discussion and shouldn't be here. If I write a few paragraphs in the OP, i expect a little effort out of the replies.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
May 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#65
I'm just wondering which part of Canada you're from. In the cities/suburbs, nobody is straight up racist, but then almost everyone's a closet racist. But I find that when I travel out to the rural areas, when I go camping during the summers, a lot of Canadians are pretty blatantly racist. I remember going to an outlet mall 3 hours outside of Toronto and I can see the difference in the service given between the Caucasian customers and the Chinese/Koreans customers.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
May 03 2011 22:34 GMT
#66
I don't understand the problem. Everyone (Who isn't a hard ass) has laughed at Jew jokes and made some before. Most of my friends make fun of their own race (Aboriginal, Asian, White, Jewish, etc) and I poke fun at them via racial jokes, and no one gives a fuck.

If someone does indeed appear to get upset or more sensitive to things such as race and racism, I will tone it down and try to be more tasteful. I do not consider myself to be racist (Racism is the belief that there are inherent differences in people's traits and capacities which are entirely due to their race, however defined, and which consequently justify those people being treated differently, both socially and legally. Alternatively, racism is the practice of certain group/s of people being treated differently, which is then justified by recourse to racial sterotyping or pseudo-science. woo wikipedia) in the slightest. If anything, I simply make note that in my experiences a lot of the stereotypes people accociate with being racist tend to be true, eg a lot of black people I know play basketball but also seem to be somewhat on the slow side mentally, a lot of aboriginal people smoke and/or are alcoholic, so on and so forth. As long as you don't act upon the stereotypes obviously when you are meeting someone, I see no problem with taking note of things such as these.

Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 22:53:59
May 03 2011 22:49 GMT
#67
Wow, I don't see any of this as racism except the 'immigrants are taking our jobs' thing. Everyone makes jokes at other peoples' expense. Like others have said, people makes yo momma or fat people jokes all the time. Making a joke about a race doesn't make you a racist imo, actually holding beliefs that the race in question is somehow inferior makes you a racist. Also, I find your statement about fat people choosing to be that way obeseist - a vast majority may have caused their own issues, but some have major issues which cause it.

edit: If you really want to hear about racism you should listen to my boss. He straight up says 'niggers' all the time and today had a conversation about how he's not a nigger because he cleans his shit up and does a good job(he's a construction contractor). That's racism to me, making some stereotypical jokes isn't.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 04 2011 00:07 GMT
#68
On May 03 2011 23:24 57 Corvette wrote:
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On May 03 2011 23:24 Grobyc wrote:
On May 03 2011 23:08 BlackJack wrote:
Those are such mild instances of racism and it seems like he is half joking about the Osama thing which was easily the most severe of all the examples you gave. The other 3 examples are not that big of a deal

Yeah I'm thinking the same thing. I don't think he is honestly serious about the things he says, I've always considered those kind of comments jokes, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't laugh at them. I don't think they are any worse than a mom joke or fat person joke or anything like that. If he actually confronts these people and legitimately tells them this kind of stuff to their face then I think it's a problem. Until then, I think you are taking this too seriously.


Well comparing Fat-people jokes to Racist jokes doesn't always work. Obese people are obese because they let themselves get that way, while people of different races have no control over their skin colour/culture.

If someone choses to let themselves become obese, then fine, they made that choice knowing they will probably be made fun of. However, people didn't choose to be what race they are, and making fun of someone because of they stereotypes of their race isn't fair.

Replace fat jokes with sexist jokes and it doesn't change much. The comparison wasn't the point of my post. The point was that they are often joked about and laughed at, whether the stereotype is true or not. Unless it becomes harassment, I think you are overreacting and just need to let it go.
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Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
May 04 2011 00:58 GMT
#69
Most times somebody is the "victim" of a joke whether it is fat , old, short or ugly people. Should we stop telling all of these jokes so as not to offend a demographic?

I have muslim friends who tell great self depreciating jokes and then go on to rib me as a white. They aren't racist, quite the opposite, its a sign of maturity that we can take it. It opens our eyes to the differences and helps us tolerate them.

If it really bothers you and you think he crossed some line then speak to him about it. Posting a blog about it may salve the concious a bit but it has little practical value.

It's because of political correctness that the world has "waitrons" instead of waiters and waitresses, "holiday" trees instead of Christmas trees and so on. If your dads comments stem from ignorance, correct him. If its you being too PC, then lighten up, I want my waitresses and Christmas trees back!
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 04 2011 01:00 GMT
#70
Although I am asian myself, I sort of think it is funny that a full-grown man is saying things like that.

I would say, as long as he doesn't act on his racism, directly affecting people, leave him be.

Everyone's bit racist.
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
May 04 2011 02:03 GMT
#71
Only you know how serious he's being, but these sound like totally mild instances of joking around and that you need to toughen up a bit.

Oversensitivity is a flaw in a character and you should seek to stamp it out of yourself, because its pathetic.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 04 2011 02:10 GMT
#72
Enjoying racist humor has no correlation of actually being racist. Does your dad ever take action to harm or offend people of other races? From what your dad says, it's pretty clear that he's the racist humor kind of guy, because I don't see actual racist people phrasing it like he does.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 04 2011 02:24 GMT
#73
On May 03 2011 23:04 XenOsky- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 22:54 Gigaudas wrote:
"When I am at an airport and I see someone in a turban I get a little nervous"

Who the fuck doesn't?

Most things we fear are exaggerated yet most would be (a little) nervous from seeing Arabs boarding a plane just like a lot of people worry about turbulence once airborne even though it's extremely unlikely to cause a crash.

"Theres too many immigrants taking the jobs that Canadians should get" was imo the only racist comment made by your dad that you told us about.

EDIT: Still, that last one did paint him as a nationalistic racist douche whom I hope you won't turn out as.

EDIT2: I guess my point was that being an honest dick who makes racist, sexist and anti-semitic jokes doesn't make you a racist


SERIOUSLY?.... so you got to get a little nervous when you see : Spanish ppl on an airpot (you know, they would be ETA's members), or people from central america, they might be involved in maras, or Italians or japaneses they are probably members of a maffia. South american are drugs dealears...

this "war against terrorism" shit pisses me off so much, is just the american excuse for invading a country for no reason, and most ppl belive this shit, and end up making stupid comments about Arabs like "When I am at an airport and I see someone in a turban I get a little nervous"...


Honestly, I feel like suicide bombers would be smart enough to specifically NOT wear clothing that would attract attention / cause suspicion... for me, seeing a turban = k this guy definitely isn't a terrorist (not that that's my actual thought process XD).
:)
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 03:39:59
May 04 2011 03:39 GMT
#74
On May 04 2011 01:19 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 22:54 Gigaudas wrote:

"Theres too many immigrants taking the jobs that Canadians should get" was imo the only racist comment made by your dad that you told us about.


Honestly, I don't think this is really racist. America is going through the whole illegal immigrants taking american work and there's a lot of people that are really pissed about it because they are unemployed and won't work at the same wages as the immigrants will.

I know it's not nice to say, but I don't think it's racist, exactly.

A lot of work is already outsourced to foreign countries due to them being willing to work for lower wages. I don't find that this is much different at all from foreign workers, illegal or not, taking jobs within the country at wages that complacent Americans are unwilling to work for.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 04 2011 04:06 GMT
#75
your dad seems awesome, you seem like a prick on the other hand

User was temp banned for this post.
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
May 04 2011 10:16 GMT
#76
I am going to side with the majority of the posts in this thread - which states that you are insanely sensitive about this topic eventhough your dad is just joking around. Its a form of sarcasm. You are 18 and this naive? Really?
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
May 04 2011 11:10 GMT
#77
You just sound easily offended, i'm pretty sure hes just joking around with you
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 04 2011 11:32 GMT
#78
Making fun of people from another culture is fine for me. Like saying; "they look like clowns in those outfits" or whatever and I think it's pretty harmless.

Having the political view that immigrants are bad is also acceptable for me but this depends on how well articulated this opinion is.

But then again to never be cool with people because they are different, like the constant puns or whatever would probably be to much for me as well.
Eviltoast
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia166 Posts
May 04 2011 11:34 GMT
#79
I actually laughed at some of those things. I don't think your dad is a racist it sounds to me that he is just joking but of course that is impossible to tell over the internet, although you could be misinterpreting his tone as well.

I don't consider it to be a big problem because hes probably always going to be like that, it is probably to late to change his views on those kinds of things and as long as he isn't being overtly racist I would leave the issue alone. You could stir up a hornets nest if you aren't careful.

Take care hope you sort it out with your dad, or learn to live with it (everyone has their faults)
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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
May 04 2011 12:02 GMT
#80
If you want to confront your dad, confront him. If you aren't going to confront him, then don't. I really do not see the whole point of you posting this blog just to inform us that you are confronting your Dad over his "racism".

But you post this blog anyway, and when people start calling you naive and overly sensitive (which judging from this blog you most definitely are), you can't take it and start banning people from your blog. If this is what you're like, I'd much rather hang out with your Dad instead of you, and I'm Asian.

Do I think racist jokes and wisecracks are harmless? No, I actually don't. But when you say "there's no proper reason to be this bad" I can't agree with you anymore.
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