[Polls] IPL / MLG / NASL Preferences

felizuno

United States164 Posts

April 22 2011 21:44 GMT

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I want talk about the “Ideal” tournament. Instead of imagining features that may (or may not) be technologically possible I wanted to talk about the best things that are already being done. The goal would be a Frankenstein-style tournament comprised of all the ideal parts of our current tournaments.

For the sake of discussion assume that next year all these leagues will be consolidated into one large league. This is a “friendly” merger so the new tournament will use all the best features of the old independent leagues. Which features of each league would you keep?

Below you will find a few polls that hardly begin to cover these details. As people post I will add any polls that seem relevant. Please vote in the polls and give a brief post about why you feel this way. Please try to focus on what you like as opposed to what the others are doing wrong.

The Polls:

Broadcast style + Show Spoiler +

Poll: I like to watch

Games cast live from LAN event (49)

78%

Games cast live by in-game observers (8)

13%

Games cast from replays (6)

10%

63 total votes

Your vote: I like to watch

(Vote): Games cast from replays
(Vote): Games cast live by in-game observers
(Vote): Games cast live from LAN event

I suppose the difference between LAN and just observer would be the ability to hear the crowd behind the casters and knowing that the players have/will interact in person. The cast by observers is supposed to imply the players playing in their home environment.

Structure + Show Spoiler +

Qualification structure + Show Spoiler +

>>IGN season 1 is invite only
>>MLG 256 Players will play Open Bracket til Top 16. Top 16 from open bracket will join Top 16 Seeded players in the Championship Bracket pool play.
>>NASL is interview-to-invite

Poll: Which would you keep?

MLG (39)

83%

IPL (4)

9%

NASL (4)

9%

47 total votes

Your vote: Which would you keep?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL

Tournament format+ Show Spoiler +

>>IGN – A 16 Player Double Elimination tournament, with the first 2 winner's rounds and first 3 loser's rounds Best of 3s. The rest of the rounds will be Best of 5s excluding the grand final which will be a Best of 7.

>>MLG – Top 16 from open bracket will join Top 16 Seeded players in the Championship Bracket pool play. The Open Bracket is a double-elimination, best of three bracket.
Players that lose in the Open Bracket will be placed in the Championship Losers Bracket.
Championship Bracket
The Top 16 seeded players will be divided into four pools of five players each.
The fifth player for each pool will be derived from the Top 16 Open bracket.
The results of Pool Play will dictate where each player is placed in the Championship Bracket.

>>NASL - 50 players will be placed in 5 Divisions of 10, Top 2 of each Division will be placed into Main Bracket.
Remaining 20 players from each Division will be placed in 5 Qualifier Brackets.
Winners of each Qualifier Bracket will be placed into Main Bracket.
1024 Players will compete in Open Tournament, Winner will be placed into Main Bracket.

Poll: Which do you prefer?

IPL (28)

64%

NASL (13)

30%

MLG (3)

7%

44 total votes

Your vote: Which do you prefer?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL

Re-qualification structure (who stays for the next season) + Show Spoiler +

>>IPL - The top 4 finishers automatically qualifies for IPL 2.
>>MLG - Top 16 Ranked players will be seeded into upcoming events pool play.
>>NASL- Top 34 from Divisions will qualify for next season. Top 8 from 1024 player Open Tournament will qualify for next season.

Poll: Which one should be kept?

MLG (13)

38%

NASL (12)

35%

IPL (9)

26%

34 total votes

Your vote: Which one should be kept?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL

Extras + Show Spoiler +

Player coverage + Show Spoiler +

Poll: Best Player Coverage?

NASL (31)

82%

IPL (5)

13%

MLG (2)

5%

38 total votes

Your vote: Best Player Coverage?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL

VOD style + Show Spoiler +

Poll: Who has the best VODs?

IPL (36)

92%

MLG (3)

8%

NASL (0)

0%

39 total votes

Your vote: Who has the best VODs?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL

As a viewer: + Show Spoiler +

Are you willing to watch adds? + Show Spoiler +

Poll: With regards to adds

They annoy me but I can handle a few (25)

48%

I don't mind them (18)

35%

I run adblockers to avoid them (9)

17%

52 total votes

Your vote: With regards to adds

(Vote): I run adblockers to avoid them
(Vote): I don't mind them
(Vote): They annoy me but I can handle a few

If all three were on at the same time, which would you watch? + Show Spoiler +

Poll: I would watch

MLG (29)

57%

IPL (14)

27%

NASL (8)

16%

51 total votes

Your vote: I would watch

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL

How many hours (max) will you spend watching SC2 “live” + Show Spoiler +

Weekdays + Show Spoiler +

Poll: Hours Per Day:

3 (11)

27%

2 (10)

24%

4 (8)

20%

8+ (6)

15%

5 (3)

7%

1 (2)

5%

6 (1)

2%

7 (0)

0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Hours Per Day:

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8+

Weekends + Show Spoiler +

Poll: How many hours:

8+ (13)

37%

5 (8)

23%

4 (5)

14%

6 (4)

11%

2 (2)

6%

3 (2)

6%

7 (1)

3%

1 (0)

0%

35 total votes

Your vote: How many hours:

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8+

Edit: Please post any questions you think I am missing and I will add them

Helpful Links (so you can avoid wearing your ass as a hat):
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit

Tschis

Brazil1511 Posts

April 22 2011 22:10 GMT

Excuse me, what's the difference between casting from lan event and casting from observer? Aren't casters of LAN events using an observer?

And I think the poll from the "what would you watch?" is really something that depends on who's playing =P

felizuno

United States164 Posts

April 22 2011 22:14 GMT

On April 23 2011 07:10 Tschis wrote:
Excuse me, what's the difference between casting from lan event and casting from observer? Aren't casters of LAN events using an observer?

And I think the poll from the "what would you watch?" is really something that depends on who's playing =P

I suppose the difference would be the ability to hear the crowd behind the casters and knowing that the players have/will interact in person.

you're right about "what would you watch", although I think MLG is going to dominate that question... since they broadcast less often they get a sense of priority with most people (I think)

zere

Germany1287 Posts

April 22 2011 22:37 GMT

I think the options for answers aren't quite diverse enough, but nevermind:
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I like to watch
[X]Games cast live from LAN event

Qualification structure: Which would you keep?
Missing option: [X} None (MLG is closest to OKish, but the seeding system just doesn't work)

Tournament format: Which do you prefer?
Missing option: [X} None (MLG is closest to OKish, but the seeding system just doesn't work)

Re-qualification structure: Which one should be kept?
Missing option: [X} None

Player coverage: Best Player Coverage?
Missing option: [X} None (IdrA says "This is a computer game, personality is irrelevant.")

VOD style: Who has the best VODs?
Missing option: [X} If it's not Live, I don't watch it

Are you willing to watch ad(d)s?
[X} They annoy me but I can handle a few

If all three were on at the same time, which would you watch?
[X} MLG, since it's the only one that's Live

How many hours (max) will you spend watching SC2 “live”
[X} 3

Weekends
[X] 8+

Tschis

Brazil1511 Posts

April 22 2011 23:14 GMT

On April 23 2011 07:14 felizuno wrote:

Show nested quote +

I think "cast live in LAN event" englobes "casting live with observers"

T0fuuu

Australia2275 Posts

April 22 2011 23:23 GMT

MLG's Championship bracket+open is a work of beauty. The possibility of having a 250+ man tournament where you can have games worth watching from the start of the day is great for me as a spectator.

I also think it is unfair to compare NASL to MLG or IPL at the moment because it is only week 2 and we haven't seen how the final 16 will be produced. Whereas IPL is all done from replays and edited in a studio.

I guess you could say the same for mlg though cos no-one has seen it yet. *cough cough*

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