• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:35
CET 20:35
KST 04:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain BW General Discussion BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2322 users

[Polls] IPL / MLG / NASL Preferences

Blogs > felizuno
Post a Reply
felizuno
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:39:02
April 22 2011 21:44 GMT
#1
[image loading]
Look, I has photoshop!


I want talk about the “Ideal” tournament. Instead of imagining features that may (or may not) be technologically possible I wanted to talk about the best things that are already being done. The goal would be a Frankenstein-style tournament comprised of all the ideal parts of our current tournaments.

For the sake of discussion assume that next year all these leagues will be consolidated into one large league. This is a “friendly” merger so the new tournament will use all the best features of the old independent leagues. Which features of each league would you keep?

Below you will find a few polls that hardly begin to cover these details. As people post I will add any polls that seem relevant. Please vote in the polls and give a brief post about why you feel this way. Please try to focus on what you like as opposed to what the others are doing wrong.

The Polls:

Broadcast style + Show Spoiler +
Poll: I like to watch

Games cast live from LAN event (49)
 
78%

Games cast live by in-game observers (8)
 
13%

Games cast from replays (6)
 
10%

63 total votes

Your vote: I like to watch

(Vote): Games cast from replays
(Vote): Games cast live by in-game observers
(Vote): Games cast live from LAN event


I suppose the difference between LAN and just observer would be the ability to hear the crowd behind the casters and knowing that the players have/will interact in person. The cast by observers is supposed to imply the players playing in their home environment.

Structure + Show Spoiler +
Qualification structure + Show Spoiler +
>>IGN season 1 is invite only
>>MLG 256 Players will play Open Bracket til Top 16. Top 16 from open bracket will join Top 16 Seeded players in the Championship Bracket pool play.
>>NASL is interview-to-invite

Poll: Which would you keep?

MLG (39)
 
83%

IPL (4)
 
9%

NASL (4)
 
9%

47 total votes

Your vote: Which would you keep?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL


Tournament format+ Show Spoiler +

>>IGN – A 16 Player Double Elimination tournament, with the first 2 winner's rounds and first 3 loser's rounds Best of 3s. The rest of the rounds will be Best of 5s excluding the grand final which will be a Best of 7.

>>MLG – Top 16 from open bracket will join Top 16 Seeded players in the Championship Bracket pool play. The Open Bracket is a double-elimination, best of three bracket.
Players that lose in the Open Bracket will be placed in the Championship Losers Bracket.
Championship Bracket
The Top 16 seeded players will be divided into four pools of five players each.
The fifth player for each pool will be derived from the Top 16 Open bracket.
The results of Pool Play will dictate where each player is placed in the Championship Bracket.

>>NASL - 50 players will be placed in 5 Divisions of 10, Top 2 of each Division will be placed into Main Bracket.
Remaining 20 players from each Division will be placed in 5 Qualifier Brackets.
Winners of each Qualifier Bracket will be placed into Main Bracket.
1024 Players will compete in Open Tournament, Winner will be placed into Main Bracket.

Poll: Which do you prefer?

IPL (28)
 
64%

NASL (13)
 
30%

MLG (3)
 
7%

44 total votes

Your vote: Which do you prefer?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL


Re-qualification structure (who stays for the next season) + Show Spoiler +
>>IPL - The top 4 finishers automatically qualifies for IPL 2.
>>MLG - Top 16 Ranked players will be seeded into upcoming events pool play.
>>NASL- Top 34 from Divisions will qualify for next season. Top 8 from 1024 player Open Tournament will qualify for next season.

Poll: Which one should be kept?

MLG (13)
 
38%

NASL (12)
 
35%

IPL (9)
 
26%

34 total votes

Your vote: Which one should be kept?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL


Extras + Show Spoiler +
Player coverage + Show Spoiler +
Poll: Best Player Coverage?

NASL (31)
 
82%

IPL (5)
 
13%

MLG (2)
 
5%

38 total votes

Your vote: Best Player Coverage?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL


VOD style + Show Spoiler +
Poll: Who has the best VODs?

IPL (36)
 
92%

MLG (3)
 
8%

NASL (0)
 
0%

39 total votes

Your vote: Who has the best VODs?

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL


As a viewer: + Show Spoiler +
Are you willing to watch adds? + Show Spoiler +
Poll: With regards to adds

They annoy me but I can handle a few (25)
 
48%

I don't mind them (18)
 
35%

I run adblockers to avoid them (9)
 
17%

52 total votes

Your vote: With regards to adds

(Vote): I run adblockers to avoid them
(Vote): I don't mind them
(Vote): They annoy me but I can handle a few


If all three were on at the same time, which would you watch? + Show Spoiler +
Poll: I would watch

MLG (29)
 
57%

IPL (14)
 
27%

NASL (8)
 
16%

51 total votes

Your vote: I would watch

(Vote): IPL
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): NASL


How many hours (max) will you spend watching SC2 “live” + Show Spoiler +
Weekdays + Show Spoiler +
Poll: Hours Per Day:

3 (11)
 
27%

2 (10)
 
24%

4 (8)
 
20%

8+ (6)
 
15%

5 (3)
 
7%

1 (2)
 
5%

6 (1)
 
2%

7 (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Hours Per Day:

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8+


Weekends + Show Spoiler +
Poll: How many hours:

8+ (13)
 
37%

5 (8)
 
23%

4 (5)
 
14%

6 (4)
 
11%

2 (2)
 
6%

3 (2)
 
6%

7 (1)
 
3%

1 (0)
 
0%

35 total votes

Your vote: How many hours:

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8+





Edit: Please post any questions you think I am missing and I will add them

Helpful Links (so you can avoid wearing your ass as a hat):
+ Show Spoiler +
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit



*****
Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 22 2011 22:10 GMT
#2
Excuse me, what's the difference between casting from lan event and casting from observer? Aren't casters of LAN events using an observer?

And I think the poll from the "what would you watch?" is really something that depends on who's playing =P
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
felizuno
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States164 Posts
April 22 2011 22:14 GMT
#3
On April 23 2011 07:10 Tschis wrote:
Excuse me, what's the difference between casting from lan event and casting from observer? Aren't casters of LAN events using an observer?

And I think the poll from the "what would you watch?" is really something that depends on who's playing =P


I suppose the difference would be the ability to hear the crowd behind the casters and knowing that the players have/will interact in person.

you're right about "what would you watch", although I think MLG is going to dominate that question... since they broadcast less often they get a sense of priority with most people (I think)
Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 22:38:01
April 22 2011 22:37 GMT
#4
I think the options for answers aren't quite diverse enough, but nevermind:
+ Show Spoiler +
I like to watch
[X]Games cast live from LAN event

Qualification structure: Which would you keep?
Missing option: [X} None (MLG is closest to OKish, but the seeding system just doesn't work)

Tournament format: Which do you prefer?
Missing option: [X} None (MLG is closest to OKish, but the seeding system just doesn't work)

Re-qualification structure: Which one should be kept?
Missing option: [X} None

Player coverage: Best Player Coverage?
Missing option: [X} None (IdrA says "This is a computer game, personality is irrelevant.")

VOD style: Who has the best VODs?
Missing option: [X} If it's not Live, I don't watch it

Are you willing to watch ad(d)s?
[X} They annoy me but I can handle a few

If all three were on at the same time, which would you watch?
[X} MLG, since it's the only one that's Live

How many hours (max) will you spend watching SC2 “live”
[X} 3

Weekends
[X] 8+

ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 22 2011 23:14 GMT
#5
On April 23 2011 07:14 felizuno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 07:10 Tschis wrote:
Excuse me, what's the difference between casting from lan event and casting from observer? Aren't casters of LAN events using an observer?

And I think the poll from the "what would you watch?" is really something that depends on who's playing =P


I suppose the difference would be the ability to hear the crowd behind the casters and knowing that the players have/will interact in person.

you're right about "what would you watch", although I think MLG is going to dominate that question... since they broadcast less often they get a sense of priority with most people (I think)


I think "cast live in LAN event" englobes "casting live with observers"
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
April 22 2011 23:23 GMT
#6
MLG's Championship bracket+open is a work of beauty. The possibility of having a 250+ man tournament where you can have games worth watching from the start of the day is great for me as a spectator.

I also think it is unfair to compare NASL to MLG or IPL at the moment because it is only week 2 and we haven't seen how the final 16 will be produced. Whereas IPL is all done from replays and edited in a studio.

I guess you could say the same for mlg though cos no-one has seen it yet. *cough cough*
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 646
IndyStarCraft 198
JuggernautJason36
Vindicta 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2276
Shuttle 696
Mini 35
910 29
Movie 17
Dota 2
Gorgc7555
qojqva3522
Counter-Strike
fl0m2838
byalli2165
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu384
Other Games
FrodaN6971
Grubby3640
Liquid`RaSZi2668
summit1g2611
B2W.Neo943
crisheroes372
Harstem280
ToD194
ArmadaUGS145
Mew2King17
mouzStarbuck15
Railgan1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2566
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 1547
Other Games
EGCTV1247
StarCraft 2
angryscii 22
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 31
• Reevou 3
• Kozan
• Laughngamez YouTube
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3018
• TFBlade899
Other Games
• imaqtpie2278
• Shiphtur268
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
26m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
26m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
13h 26m
Wardi Open
16h 26m
Monday Night Weeklies
21h 26m
OSC
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Big Brain Bouts
4 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.