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Jazzyluv
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 15:21:55
April 22 2011 15:06 GMT
#1
I am a competitive player in general and have won tournaments and have usually placed top 3. I have gone to LANS, and don't have any problems with nerves and am very analytical with my play.

Let me give you a background of my experience. My Team won a battlefield 2142 tournament, got third in one of the first major COD4 tournaments. Have been a top player in TF2(though school and work prevented me from being able to practice). Im a solid quake 3 duel player (not good enough to even touch someone such as rapha, but if your in the quakelive scene i can sometimes take games off of KGB.) a solid CPMA dueler.

Recently, due to work and school, i had to drop the team games for quake and fighting games cause i worked during team scrim hours. I started playing fighting games, Guilty gear being the main one(play it online) and have become one of the better players on the server. And with Starcraft 2 coming out i became a 1v1 player now getting into low masters.(Ive only played 250 games with no RTS experience and have gotten into masters)

Essentially, what I'm getting at is that I'm good at every game i play for the amount of time put in compared to other players but i will never become a top player. Now that I work full time I don't know if I'll ever be a top player at a game.

Right now I'm practicing Starcraft 2, Quake Live, Guilty Gear, and TF2 while still having a social life and a full time job.

I want to become a top player, but i happen to love playing multiple games and constantly improving (I hate the feeling of stagnation that comes when you practice only one game and your skill halts)

So i don't know what I should do.

*
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#2
Keep playing all of them =) See what opportunities arise.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
cody1024d
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
107 Posts
April 22 2011 15:12 GMT
#3
Thinly veiled brag blog?
No point in half-assing it.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 22 2011 15:12 GMT
#4
I think you should only play one game if you want to be a top player.
Pick your favourite game ( or your best game ) and the game where the competition/scene is the strongest.

It will be probably be Quake live or Sc2. I don't think that TF2 lifespan will be comparable.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Jazzyluv
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States36 Posts
April 22 2011 15:21 GMT
#5
my issue with Starcraft 2, is that I don't know if ill have the time, like, I'm focusing purely on fundamentals now and prefer a brute force approach(just good solid macro), whats probably gonna happen is that player skill will increase and they will know better timings. SC2 is the kind of game that to me it seems that you need to dedicate a SHIT TON of time to because refinement is so important. Most of my games tend to focus on fundamentals and Ive always had an issue with the tiny little advantages you can get.

In Quakelive just recently I've seen a huge surge in improvement ever since i started timing red and mega to the exact second they were given(allows you to make better decisions). But starcraft 2 seems like its all about those little specifics and those require you to buckle down and improve something very deliberately.

In most team games its not about specifics, its more about the overarching concept, good reads on game situation(they are simplistic compared to Starcraft 2) and good reactions and Aim. Ive never been able to get over those certain humps in any game I've played, either due to lack of motivation, or lack of skill. Its always the stuff that gives the tiny advantages that hold me back because they are what separate you from the pack.

sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 15:22:12
April 22 2011 15:21 GMT
#6
just playing practicing one game even at a semi-competitive level gets boring to me. i goto a fighting game tournament, i could just enter and practice a 1 single game to have the best chance at winning, but i always end up entering 4-5 different games just for fun/variety

edit: who do u use in GG?
Forever Young
Jazzyluv
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States36 Posts
April 22 2011 15:25 GMT
#7
I use Eddie as my main in #reload but then if i feel its a weak matchup for me(i have so much trouble against Johny for some reason) I then go either baiken, testament, slayer, or sol. But eddie i have the most success with.

In AC my main is testament, but i have not been able to practice enough to see who my main would actually be, and its hard to get matches online in AC
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
April 22 2011 15:33 GMT
#8
If you really want to test yourself against the best, you have to play SC2 imo. It is way, way harder than the other games that you're playing. It's hard in the sense that you have to be well-rounded - you have to be intelligent, meticulous, accurate, have fast reactions, and then you have to practise a lot to have good game sense.

I dunno but it seems to me that if you're a "pro" in an FPS game or a fighter game then you're pretty much just playing basketball in Australia, or rugby in China or table tennis in Fiji. Who cares?

It also seems to me that every single "pro" in a non-RTS game that has switched to SC2 and declared themselves practising full time has failed utterly and completely. Even WC3 players struggle to keep up with the top tier pros.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Jazzyluv
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States36 Posts
April 22 2011 15:40 GMT
#9
Trust me, Quakelive, compared to other FPS games is a totally different animal. Most fps games essentially are not that "good" for building fundamentals. I learned that when i got ass pounded into the ground by quake players who had been playing for years.

Quakelive duel is like the Starcraft of RTS's. It focuses on all the fundamentals(you actually have to be smart to duel, trust me, aim will only take you so far) It's been the hardest game Ive had to improve on, possibly due to the huge bump in skill level in quake community compared any other game Ive played.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 22 2011 15:57 GMT
#10
On April 23 2011 00:12 cody1024d wrote:
Thinly veiled brag blog?

IMO.

If you're really aiming to become really really good at those games (enough to turn pro), you have to put in the hours. That's not to say that you can't maintain a social life or spend time playing other games as an amateur, but you would really need to go for a specific game.
:)
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
April 22 2011 16:25 GMT
#11
lol @ tyCe. So much disrespect for your fellow competitive gamers is appalling. By your logic, you ought to be playing bw, not sc2. =P

Kinda curious why you'd be playing reload instead of ggac. No local players whatsoever I'm guessing?

Getting to a respectable tournament level definitely gives you more appreciation for how much the pros really sacrifice to get there. Only people I've seen make it to the top in multiple games have been playing competitively for a decade or more, quit their job, or both. 2011 might not be your year, but 2016, if you believe, if yours for the taking!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 16:32:18
April 22 2011 16:28 GMT
#12
On April 23 2011 00:33 tyCe wrote:
If you really want to test yourself against the best, you have to play SC2 imo.

Quake live is way more hard than Sc2 and it is probably the hardest game after bw.

Sc2 is still a young game, the mechanics aren't that hard and since the top bw players haven't switched yet it isn't really that difficult to get into Masters or even low GM at least in the USA or Europe ( Korea seems already harder ).
Don't get me wrong there are some good players and it is not easy to win a big tournament but i really don't think that the game is harder than quake live atm.

High level quake doesn't play like an FPS. It becomes a strategy game, and map/item control is at least as important than pure aim. That game is really sick if you start dueling ( most of the players are long time veterans ).

However i think that Sc2 seems to have more tournaments / prize money and the community is bigger so it can be a good choice :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 22 2011 17:09 GMT
#13
Just keep riding your natural talent in many games imo. Working hard at a single game will naturally lead to skill plateaus which your ego won't be able to handle.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
eighteen10
Profile Joined February 2011
Afghanistan4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 18:55:08
April 22 2011 18:52 GMT
#14
I can't speak for the other communities he's involved in, but his claims are hilariously exaggerated in terms of his TF2 accomplishments.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4717/86095788.jpg

http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/438939/
fff
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
April 22 2011 22:46 GMT
#15
What TF2 teams have you been on?
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 22 2011 23:02 GMT
#16
I'm pretty sure the op be trolling :D
if you can believe you can concieve
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 22 2011 23:10 GMT
#17
Jack of all trades, king of none. Or in this case, someone who tries to protect his ego by not devoting himself to any one goal.

I think you should just admit that you're a casual gamer and drop the ego.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
qdenser
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:22:27
April 22 2011 23:21 GMT
#18
On April 23 2011 03:52 eighteen10 wrote:
I can't speak for the other communities he's involved in, but his claims are hilariously exaggerated in terms of his TF2 accomplishments.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4717/86095788.jpg

http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/438939/


really gross why would you link that, ruined my whole day
BW is still out there and a lots of people still watch it. SC2 is a different game and different people. Please go back to BW if you think sc2 is not suited for you - Dustin Browder
flynn
Profile Joined December 2010
United States8 Posts
April 22 2011 23:26 GMT
#19
On April 23 2011 07:46 scottyyy wrote:
What TF2 teams have you been on?


Well he was on a bunch of nobody teams, then his last team he was carried by a top level Invite player.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
April 22 2011 23:46 GMT
#20
sooooooo. Without being rude... you havent won anything big or regularly and you think you have talent? From the looks of it you just play hardcore upon a new scene or release and get to a competitive level and then when the scene matures you gamehop to the next scene. S:
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
April 23 2011 00:03 GMT
#21
On April 23 2011 08:26 flynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 07:46 scottyyy wrote:
What TF2 teams have you been on?


Well he was on a bunch of nobody teams, then his last team he was carried by a top level Invite player.


Which team is that? I tried searching him on ESEA but couldn't find anything. I'm just curious because I'm an EU TF2 player, and I don't know much about the US scene so I'm curious. Which invite player was it?
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
April 23 2011 00:22 GMT
#22
I'd give up on SC2, it's no fun when not played hardcore unless you're really good already and can just mess around when playing.

You can still enjoy casted games without actively playing at high level.
jupidar
Profile Joined December 2010
United States229 Posts
April 23 2011 00:29 GMT
#23
What was your alias in cod4 and team? Just curious, unless you didn't want to post it.
WhatBro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada18 Posts
April 23 2011 01:07 GMT
#24
On April 23 2011 09:03 scottyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 08:26 flynn wrote:
On April 23 2011 07:46 scottyyy wrote:
What TF2 teams have you been on?


Well he was on a bunch of nobody teams, then his last team he was carried by a top level Invite player.


Which team is that? I tried searching him on ESEA but couldn't find anything. I'm just curious because I'm an EU TF2 player, and I don't know much about the US scene so I'm curious. Which invite player was it?


It was the open team viper gaming, and they were carried by boogie (mostly) and st.patrick (a little)
tl4life
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada247 Posts
April 23 2011 03:52 GMT
#25
Yooo whats your Quake Live id? Im looking for a mid-level duel partner

PEACE
TERRAN IS LOSING! TERRAN IS LOSING!
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
April 23 2011 05:12 GMT
#26
You realise masters in 250 games isn't even good? apart from QL none of those games are even hard... pretty thinly veiled brag blog imo. Anyway play sc2 since the scene is a lot better and much more financially viable than QL and its only gonna get better as the scene grows even more
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
April 23 2011 05:48 GMT
#27
Just have fun man, though it seems sc2 would be the most likely for you to be successful at since you can play/practice anytime of day/night. Also you don' t need to rely on teammates to practice, though practice partners are definitely helpful.

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