On March 13 2011 11:55 supernovamaniac wrote:
Jon747 got a warning from GOM because of GOM Classic, not MBC/OGN/Proleague.
Jon747 got a warning from GOM because of GOM Classic, not MBC/OGN/Proleague.
Nope, he got a warning the GomTV MSLs
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On March 13 2011 11:55 supernovamaniac wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2011 11:46 Chef wrote: The point is that a lot of people hate GOM right now, and they're digging themselves deeper by having petty legal fights with huge contributors who actually care about ESPORTS. Grobyc is more or less a small fry, but we can't forget that Jon747 was shut down, that MBC Game and OnGameNet are being threatened... I won't claim to be too well informed on the topic, but GOM needs some serious PR help if they're going to be seen in a positive light. The only thing they seem to know how to do is make lame excuses. Jon747 got a warning from GOM because of GOM Classic, not MBC/OGN/Proleague. Nope, he got a warning the GomTV MSLs | ||
GoodRamen
United States713 Posts
On March 14 2011 15:12 Mortician wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2011 11:55 supernovamaniac wrote: On March 13 2011 11:46 Chef wrote: The point is that a lot of people hate GOM right now, and they're digging themselves deeper by having petty legal fights with huge contributors who actually care about ESPORTS. Grobyc is more or less a small fry, but we can't forget that Jon747 was shut down, that MBC Game and OnGameNet are being threatened... I won't claim to be too well informed on the topic, but GOM needs some serious PR help if they're going to be seen in a positive light. The only thing they seem to know how to do is make lame excuses. Jon747 got a warning from GOM because of GOM Classic, not MBC/OGN/Proleague. Nope, he got a warning the GomTV MSLs mb that explains why i couldnt find those msl on his channel b4 | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
You can post the screenshot if you have it GOM. No way I restreamed GSL March 9 like you said. I don't even follow GSL | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
My livestream (http://www.livestream.com/grobycsstarcraftstream) recently for shut down for an apparent copyright infringement and I would like to look in to this more. I'd like to know what content of theirs I streamed on my channel without permission. Is it possible to request a screenshot or proof of some other sort? Skylar Neff Grobyc @ livestream.com was sent march 11 | ||
Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
Why not asking the screenshot directly from them? | ||
Cannabeastwod
Denmark37 Posts
On March 09 2011 16:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2011 16:40 Kiante wrote: how can gom get u shut down if its not their content? Unless you streamed some gomtv classic stuff or something? also: this sucks ![]() GomTV holds the rights to all starcraft content in Korea. Meaning if you are streaming korean BW, technically they have the rights to it. Livestream will bow to those rights. KeSPA/OGN/MBC won't and are fighting them on it. Its funny how laws of specifik countrys dont apply to the internet. I live in Denmark where we got jandelov that means i could be trolling everyone here legally, but i would still get a ban.. :s stupid internet laws | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
a) another producer on my channel was streaming for whatever reason (I had probably about 7-8 other people will producer capabilities) b) the screenshot isn't real | ||
supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
On March 21 2011 23:06 Grobyc wrote: No I haven't contacted GOM directly yet, I'll do that now. I don't care for arguing my livestream channel back, but I would like to see where they got this screenshot from. I stopped watching GSL near the end of the first season, and I haven't seen a game since. The only possible way they could have a screenshot showing me resteaming illegally would be a) another producer on my channel was streaming for whatever reason (I had probably about 7-8 other people will producer capabilities) b) the screenshot isn't real The only other possibility is if you have GOM-related BW events (GOM Classic), though I think you said you didn't have those at all. On March 14 2011 15:12 Mortician wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2011 11:55 supernovamaniac wrote: On March 13 2011 11:46 Chef wrote: The point is that a lot of people hate GOM right now, and they're digging themselves deeper by having petty legal fights with huge contributors who actually care about ESPORTS. Grobyc is more or less a small fry, but we can't forget that Jon747 was shut down, that MBC Game and OnGameNet are being threatened... I won't claim to be too well informed on the topic, but GOM needs some serious PR help if they're going to be seen in a positive light. The only thing they seem to know how to do is make lame excuses. Jon747 got a warning from GOM because of GOM Classic, not MBC/OGN/Proleague. Nope, he got a warning the GomTV MSLs Either way, MSL/OGN never contacted Jon747 since. I even hinted on KeSPA's thread that people in America watch the streams (and afreeca blocks foreigners watching, so does Daum TVPOT. There's NO WAY that we can watch MBC without paying) through restreams/youtube. It's always GOM/WCG related. | ||
rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On March 21 2011 23:16 supernovamaniac wrote: Show nested quote + On March 21 2011 23:06 Grobyc wrote: No I haven't contacted GOM directly yet, I'll do that now. I don't care for arguing my livestream channel back, but I would like to see where they got this screenshot from. I stopped watching GSL near the end of the first season, and I haven't seen a game since. The only possible way they could have a screenshot showing me resteaming illegally would be a) another producer on my channel was streaming for whatever reason (I had probably about 7-8 other people will producer capabilities) b) the screenshot isn't real The only other possibility is if you have GOM-related BW events (GOM Classic), though I think you said you didn't have those at all. Well GOMTV posted Like we have said, the material was not a BW material but a GSL material. A match from last night to be more specific. So this means it was SC2. Which means that either grobyc is lying/forgetting about streaming GSL (unlikely), some other people streamed on his channel (dunno how likely this is), or GOM has made a mistake (most likely in my opinion). I guess we will find out. Personally I don't really mind as justin.tv always works at least as well for me, but I'm certainly interested in seeing what gom provides grobyc as evidence. Also just wanted to say to grobyc that I (along with many others) really appreciate the effort you make to bring BW to us. | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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Oozo
Finland432 Posts
Instead of being overreactive, they could send warning before requiring total shutdown of streams. Also I think 1 screenshot is not good enough proof for this kind of action, they should record something like 5 sec clip of showing that there was misuse of their product. Screenshot is easy to fabricate and can be taken from mistake that was not intended at all. Also, Grobyc is hero in my eyes even if this turns out to be true. Hope to see more of you streaming bw. | ||
Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On March 22 2011 01:01 Jienny wrote: I recall one of the main streamers (grobyc, xsebt or kiante.... ((could be someone else can't remember them all))) who were doing bw event, opening video link to game which was recorded from gomplayer or similiar. It flashed in the screen for less than 1 second, before it was pulled away and shutted down. Instead of being overreactive, they could send warning before requiring total shutdown of streams. Also I think 1 screenshot is not good enough proof for this kind of action, they should record something like 5 sec clip of showing that there was misuse of their product. Screenshot is easy to fabricate and can be taken from mistake that was not intended at all. Also, Grobyc is hero in my eyes even if this turns out to be true. Hope to see more of you streaming bw. The possiblity of that crossed my mind as well, but I don't even recall touching GOM player in ages. I'm actually pretty sure I uninstalled it a few weeks ago. On March 22 2011 01:47 Marradron wrote: Doesn't live stream automaticly put up the videos of what you've streamed ? Can't you just show that. Or is the account completely inaccesible ? You can set it to record them, yeah. I don't believe I had it set to record automatically though. The account is completely inaccessible, so I can't check regardless. | ||
prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
On March 21 2011 23:41 Grobyc wrote: I sent a PM to GOMTV asking for the screenshot. Hopefully we'll have something soon. I wouldn't be surprised if you never get a response. But most likely they'll give some excuse for not showing you a screenshot. edit: lol nvm... decided to read every post in the thread and it turns out gomtv will send a screenshot i was just speaking out of similar experiences and stories i've heard | ||
XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
Raii is currently working for GOMTV imo ;o ahaha | ||
MaYuu
Sweden516 Posts
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On March 23 2011 06:35 Marradron wrote: Still no response ? How long does it take to upload a screenshot and send a link to the OP. Something is fishy here He contacted a company by internet in a language they don't speak, like, 24 hours ago. Relax. | ||
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