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Kellymilkies GSL casting - the first week - Page 4

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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
March 06 2011 21:26 GMT
#61
i still can't understand her accent. i dont know how anyone who doesn't speak english as their first language can come anywhere near understanding her.

im sorry. but it's an english international stream and i can't watch code a anymore.
being a clear speaker should of been the most important thing when gom was looking for casters.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-06 22:46:38
March 06 2011 22:44 GMT
#62
On March 03 2011 09:07 TheJoyBringer wrote:
lolol i don't understand why some people are all up in arms about kellymilkies and her casting

it seems to be more of a bandwagon sort of thing

more power to her though \o/


people are not "up in arms". those people just do not like her casting for whatever personal reason. are people not allowed to have an opinion? are we not allowed to provide criticism? this is the bigger issue, the fact that these people, including myself, feel like we are labelled as bigots, chauvinists, all-in-all hellspawn, and feel like we just don't have the opportunity to voice our concerns because of posts like yours.

the kelly fanclub thread is not for critical comments. that will cause unnecessary flame wars and derails the topic. this blog post is purely opinion based and as such all comments, positive or negative, should be taken to heart. please try to respect other people's opinions.
starleague forever
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 20:55:03
March 07 2011 00:00 GMT
#63
On March 03 2011 02:54 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 01:23 valaki wrote:
On March 03 2011 00:59 The KY wrote:
On March 03 2011 00:41 Khenra wrote:
I prefer the soothing male voices of Tasteless and Artosis.


There's a thread for Gay Starcraft Players, man.

No hard feelings towards Kelly.


Yeah...okay, dude. Here you go.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147829


No need to whiteknight that much.


Relax, I was just kidding. I don't hate Kelly and I think the ferocity that people have attacked her with is both weird and totally uncalled for, but I'm not a Kelly cheerleader. I don't watch so much Code A anyway.

I really like her O.o

I don't have difficulty understanding what she is saying, she's pretty damn funny, cute as hell, and brings a different kind of person to the cast entirely.

I can't really see how people are so insane...but that's an everyday kinda thing for me.


This is the problem. Imagine gom hiring a male with Kelly's accent and lack of game knowledge. How many people would be defending him? How many people would say he's qualified to cast the GSL, the most prestigious tournament in the world?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 18:51:42
March 07 2011 18:50 GMT
#64
On March 07 2011 09:00 APurpleCow wrote:
This is the problem. Imagine gom hiring a male with Kelly's accent and lack of game knowledge. How many people would be defending him? How many people would say he's qualified to cast the GSL, the most prestigious tournament in the world?


Nice one, reminds me of "A Time To Kill". ^^

But on the other hand, there's quite a hype around John, isn't there?
thesums
Profile Joined December 2010
Taiwan257 Posts
March 07 2011 19:48 GMT
#65
I did not like her at first, but hey that was her first times casting. I think now shes really good and improving, i really like it when commentators try to predict what will happen instead of just saying what is there. And kelly is pretty good at that.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32045 Posts
March 07 2011 19:58 GMT
#66
On March 07 2011 09:00 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 02:54 The KY wrote:
On March 03 2011 01:23 valaki wrote:
On March 03 2011 00:59 The KY wrote:
On March 03 2011 00:41 Khenra wrote:
I prefer the soothing male voices of Tasteless and Artosis.


There's a thread for Gay Starcraft Players, man.

No hard feelings towards Kelly.


Yeah...okay, dude. Here you go.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147829


No need to whiteknight that much.


Relax, I was just kidding. I don't hate Kelly and I think the ferocity that people have attacked her with is both weird and totally uncalled for, but I'm not a Kelly cheerleader. I don't watch so much Code A anyway.

Show nested quote +
I really like her O.o

I don't have difficulty understanding what she is saying, she's pretty damn funny, cute as hell, and brings a different kind of person to the cast entirely.

I can't really see how people are so insane...but that's an everyday kinda thing for me.

Show nested quote +
I really like her O.o

I don't have difficulty understanding what she is saying, she's pretty damn funny, cute as hell, and brings a different kind of person to the cast entirely.

I can't really see how people are so insane...but that's an everyday kinda thing for me.


This is the problem. Imagine gom hiring a male with Kelly's accent and lack of game knowledge. How many people would be defending him? How many people would say he's qualified to cast the GSL, the most prestigious tournament in the world?


Pretty much

Maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly has she improved upon?? She still sounds exactly the same as she did in any other casts you can find online
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
March 07 2011 20:16 GMT
#67
Kelly sounds the same as when she started.
The other caster, though, is quite enjoyable in comparison.
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
March 07 2011 20:23 GMT
#68
I like her more and more as I listen to her. She's got a lot more enthusiasm than Artosis/Tasteless at a lot of points, which is refreshing. What the fuck is this whole "science proves 2 octaves rapes ears" bullshit? Women have higher voices... It's kind of how half the world speaks. If you're not used to that by now then... well I guess you need to get out more.

I think her accent is cute. Then again I'm not a scumbag racist like you guys... Just kidding. I get it if you find her a little hard to understand as a purely practical matter. Again though, I think she sounds nice/cute.

I like the new guy. I can't remember his name, but he did a great job in this morning's code A games. I only watched HUK though.
Brandus
Profile Joined September 2010
148 Posts
March 07 2011 23:56 GMT
#69
Wow, doa was totally smooth in the code matches today. Kelly, poor thing, called Alicia her favorite zerg player in code A. -_-" He's protoss. Doa tried to smooth it over best he could.
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
March 09 2011 09:51 GMT
#70
I feel lately she did not only stop improving but sadly even got weaker, the unneccessary giggle and screaming amount has risen drastically, and the quota of chunks of sentences that I don't understand growed.
I hope this its just a few bad days for her and not that she is getting lazy just after a few weeks
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
WorldTraveleR
Profile Joined March 2011
16 Posts
March 09 2011 09:58 GMT
#71
I'm watching Code A tonight and it's really difficult to listen to Kelly. Aside from some of the previous comments, it's not how she says things so much as what she says.

I had read a post about how she has claimed gg before the game was over and I was in agreement with this. But it's also that she states very obvious things all of the time. For instance, Alicia's army was in Supernova's base and she says "Supernova is going to have to attack with his units to his base"

I mean, what else is Supernova going to do, but bring his units to his base?

Arg
Prepare yourself
mapthesoul
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
March 09 2011 10:29 GMT
#72
Erik is great and really tries to create some chemistry between himself and Kelly.
Unfortunately Kelly seems unable to make small talk. : (
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
March 09 2011 14:16 GMT
#73
I don't like the two of them together. Neither has that great of insight into the game, they are both quite serious for the most part, and Kelly is very difficult to understand, especially when there is excitement in a match. I really think GSL should try to find someone better to fill this casting position.
grats
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States184 Posts
March 09 2011 14:49 GMT
#74
I am too used to tasteosis, sadly for me it takes away from me enjoying the games being casted. I understand everything they say but I just do not find it as entertaining now
WorldTraveleR
Profile Joined March 2011
16 Posts
March 09 2011 22:12 GMT
#75
I like Erik. I think he does a great job. Seems to imitate Tasteless, but that's fine with me. He's professional and adds a welcome sense of humor to the cast.

But I have trouble understanding Kelly and even upon understanding her, I often disagree with what she says. She's preemptively called the game for a player or particular battles before they were over, and was wrong in her prediction. This really takes away from the experience, as I can tell beforehand that it is a close battle and it is not obviously one way or another.

She also preemptively calls out courses of action. If she sees 3 gateways, she will claim that it is going to be a 3 gateway expand. I'm all for casters predicting events, but I don't feel that she has the game knowledge or game experience of Artosis or Tasteless to make these predictions. I guess the problem might not be that she is making these predictions, but the certainty she has with her predictions in unclear situations.

Perhaps it would be to speculate instead of saying "He is going for a timing attack", and then not seeing that happen
Prepare yourself
WorldTraveleR
Profile Joined March 2011
16 Posts
March 09 2011 22:36 GMT
#76
I've noticed that the vast majority of good things you read about Kelly refer to her appearance, which have nothing to do with her casting ability. "She's beautiful", "She's cute", "She will be my wife" (taken from GOMtv forums)

This confirms to me that GOM likely picked a female caster for the"lonely nerds" who watch the GSL. If this is the case, than any attractive female caster would have prompted the same response throughout the Starcraft II community. People would have liked the caster because she was a female gamer and would have posted some of the same comments. However, there are many other female casters out there who are not only attractive (which shouldn't be the main reason to hire someone), but also very knowledgeable.

In this case, we would get the best of both worlds. More diversity in the game and great commentary to boot. Right now, I'm surprised how willing people are to accept Kelly based on her looks alone, and are not more critical of her casting ability. Someone made the point that anyone would "look good" next to Tasteless and Artosis, and I feel that this is true. They would make you look good, because they're just so experienced and great at what they do.

I bought a Season pass so that I could hear intelligent game commentary, infused with that some great Starcraft humor. I have to say that I look forward to Code S, but am more apprehensive about Code A. I think Erik is doing a fantastic job and I'm all for his casting. I'm just not sure he can compensate for what I believe is a lack of casting ability from Kelly.
Prepare yourself
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
March 14 2011 15:24 GMT
#77
I liked Kelly's casting and had little difficulty understanding what she was saying though I can understand the frustration from American viewers who rarely watch programs hosted by non-natives.

For me, most of the mispronunciations were nothing more than cute characteristics. What I like most about her casting is that when she's analyzing she will explain her train of thought. "I think x are good in situation y because of factors z1 and z2." Tartosis can sometimes be belittling and just state x-y which doesn't help as much from a learning perspective.

Most of her flaws is stuff she'll learn with more experience in front of the camera. These includes nervousness, casual talk, and high-pitched voice in tense situations. These are also fields where Tartosi's sageness really shines through.
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