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Day 2 - The race issue

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mortar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden82 Posts
February 24 2011 08:24 GMT
#1
Time for the second post in the road to masters.

I'm not gonna sit and whine, but I'm having hard trouble choosing which race to pick.

The decision is really between Protoss and Terran. I got into diamond with both at the release, but things have changed a lot since then.

I wrote in my first post that I would play P. And yesterday I sat down and played a few games just to get the feel of them (I haven't played a lot of P lately). And it went, and felt terrible. I didn't do any 1v1's, but some FFA's and a few 4v4's. This isn't a good skill tester, but it still manages to do it's job and to get the feel of it. Altho I don't think yesterdays games give a fair picture of it all, I need more games.

I also played a few T games and it directly felt good. I'm guessing this is mainly to the fact that I've played T more or less the last months.

Decisions decisions.

I like P. They are very 'gimmicky'. I like warp prisms, templars (both) and the fact that it's the easiest race to balance resources with (IMHO). And the reason behind that is warp-in's. But I remember beeing VERY troubled about PvP. Not the fact that it's a boring MU or that I lose many of them (I don't). There is basically three ways of playing. Proxygates, korean 4-gate or the mass collossi. I like none of those, so that's definitely an issue. Altho, I haven't played any PvP's lately so I might be wrong.

But the fact that TvT actually is an enjoyable MU to play I really don't feel any downs by playing T. EXCEPT for the fact that they sometimes feels boring. They rely to heavily on M&M (IMHO). But I think that can be solved by just playing more.

Z isn't on the list right now. I would love to be able to play them, but I don't think I'm up for it. They depend too much on small timing windows to convert dronespamming into units. Also, I dislike to play with banelings :p

So right now I'm leaning towards T. Any thoughts?

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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
February 24 2011 08:26 GMT
#2
Your answer lies outside of this post: You should pick Zerg and become masters with it.
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mortar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden82 Posts
February 24 2011 08:29 GMT
#3
That would actually be funny and challenging Perhaps it would be funnier to read about as well, considering my low experience...
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
February 24 2011 09:04 GMT
#4
I feel the same way as you do. I feel more confident with Terran overall and enjoy playing with it more, but I just love Protoss's gimmicks. Warpgates are macro on easymode, too.

As for Zerg.. you know that feeling you get when you're cheesing, or getting cheesed? Like everytime you make a move, you're taking a huge risk? I get that feeling as I make my first Drone when I roll Z.

Ultimately I went with T because Stalkers feel flimsy and Zealots are no fun at all until Charge. Also, PvP just feels really stupid.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 09:48:44
February 24 2011 09:48 GMT
#5
TvT is the only decent mirror match. Go T.

Also T is the easiest race, so can't really go wrong with em.

Funny how in both SC1 and 2, the easiest race has the best mirror. Interesting.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
mortar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden82 Posts
February 24 2011 10:02 GMT
#6
Personally I wouldn't say any race is easier than the other. Right now the easiest race for winning games 'should' be protosses 4-gateing. Buuuuut I haven't played in a long time so

Also, saturday will be my first day laddering. So about two days left! ^_^ Until then I will have decided.

Also, I have two accounts, so I can probably try both races on a more serious level
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