• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:46
CEST 15:46
KST 22:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)76ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Is the larve respawn broken? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7256 users

Day 2 - The race issue

Blogs > mortar
Post a Reply
mortar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden82 Posts
February 24 2011 08:24 GMT
#1
Time for the second post in the road to masters.

I'm not gonna sit and whine, but I'm having hard trouble choosing which race to pick.

The decision is really between Protoss and Terran. I got into diamond with both at the release, but things have changed a lot since then.

I wrote in my first post that I would play P. And yesterday I sat down and played a few games just to get the feel of them (I haven't played a lot of P lately). And it went, and felt terrible. I didn't do any 1v1's, but some FFA's and a few 4v4's. This isn't a good skill tester, but it still manages to do it's job and to get the feel of it. Altho I don't think yesterdays games give a fair picture of it all, I need more games.

I also played a few T games and it directly felt good. I'm guessing this is mainly to the fact that I've played T more or less the last months.

Decisions decisions.

I like P. They are very 'gimmicky'. I like warp prisms, templars (both) and the fact that it's the easiest race to balance resources with (IMHO). And the reason behind that is warp-in's. But I remember beeing VERY troubled about PvP. Not the fact that it's a boring MU or that I lose many of them (I don't). There is basically three ways of playing. Proxygates, korean 4-gate or the mass collossi. I like none of those, so that's definitely an issue. Altho, I haven't played any PvP's lately so I might be wrong.

But the fact that TvT actually is an enjoyable MU to play I really don't feel any downs by playing T. EXCEPT for the fact that they sometimes feels boring. They rely to heavily on M&M (IMHO). But I think that can be solved by just playing more.

Z isn't on the list right now. I would love to be able to play them, but I don't think I'm up for it. They depend too much on small timing windows to convert dronespamming into units. Also, I dislike to play with banelings :p

So right now I'm leaning towards T. Any thoughts?

*
The dreams of youth are the regrets of maturity
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
February 24 2011 08:26 GMT
#2
Your answer lies outside of this post: You should pick Zerg and become masters with it.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
mortar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden82 Posts
February 24 2011 08:29 GMT
#3
That would actually be funny and challenging Perhaps it would be funnier to read about as well, considering my low experience...
The dreams of youth are the regrets of maturity
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
February 24 2011 09:04 GMT
#4
I feel the same way as you do. I feel more confident with Terran overall and enjoy playing with it more, but I just love Protoss's gimmicks. Warpgates are macro on easymode, too.

As for Zerg.. you know that feeling you get when you're cheesing, or getting cheesed? Like everytime you make a move, you're taking a huge risk? I get that feeling as I make my first Drone when I roll Z.

Ultimately I went with T because Stalkers feel flimsy and Zealots are no fun at all until Charge. Also, PvP just feels really stupid.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 09:48:44
February 24 2011 09:48 GMT
#5
TvT is the only decent mirror match. Go T.

Also T is the easiest race, so can't really go wrong with em.

Funny how in both SC1 and 2, the easiest race has the best mirror. Interesting.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
mortar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden82 Posts
February 24 2011 10:02 GMT
#6
Personally I wouldn't say any race is easier than the other. Right now the easiest race for winning games 'should' be protosses 4-gateing. Buuuuut I haven't played in a long time so

Also, saturday will be my first day laddering. So about two days left! ^_^ Until then I will have decided.

Also, I have two accounts, so I can probably try both races on a more serious level
The dreams of youth are the regrets of maturity
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Maestros of the Game
12:30
Offline Playoffs
Maru vs Serral
herO vs TBD
RotterdaM1364
WardiTV1333
ComeBackTV 1254
Ryung 905
IntoTheiNu 763
TaKeTV 527
SteadfastSC266
SHIN 222
IndyStarCraft 190
BRAT_OK 96
EnkiAlexander 74
CosmosSc2 65
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1364
Ryung 905
SteadfastSC 266
SHIN 222
IndyStarCraft 190
Rex 163
BRAT_OK 96
CosmosSc2 65
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48864
Horang2 2369
Jaedong 1922
EffOrt 1277
actioN 797
BeSt 550
Leta 456
ggaemo 387
Pusan 106
Mong 103
[ Show more ]
Sharp 101
Movie 66
Aegong 59
Hyun 54
Mind 49
Hm[arnc] 37
sorry 37
sSak 29
JYJ 19
Sacsri 18
GoRush 16
Rock 13
Icarus 8
Dota 2
qojqva1036
syndereN368
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1318
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor384
Other Games
singsing3181
B2W.Neo1493
Lowko440
crisheroes371
byalli352
DeMusliM337
XaKoH 192
Hui .183
XcaliburYe127
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10267
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 19
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 16
• Azhi_Dahaki7
• FirePhoenix4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3568
Upcoming Events
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
14m
Bonyth vs TerrOr
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
XuanXuan vs TBD
Douyu Cup 2020
15h 14m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d
Mihu vs TBD
Online Event
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 12h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Bombastic Starleague
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Bombastic Starleague
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.