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Hey guys, I think it's time for me to upgrade my mouse and mouse pad 
Since I am right handed, use a palm grip, and am currently using a logitech ergonomic mouse, I think I'm going to go with the Razer Imperator. (Objections can be raised now, lol.)
To go with the mouse however, I can't decide whether to go with the SteelSeries QcK mini or, as Razer tells me, the Sphex.
All I know is that the Imperator has a laser sensor, if that would make a differece. Also, the reason I would opt for a QcK mini instead of the regular one is because of size. I've been using those brandless mousepads that are 180x220x2mm for years now. Therefore, right now, I prefer the mini (but how good can it be at $7?) over the Sphex. If the Sphex is better though, I guess I could cope with its size.
Thanks for your help!
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I will consider the mouse, it also looks like what I am looking for.
The mousepad is way too expensive for me though
Considering that I'm "doing fine" on a 50 cent pad right now, I won't need something that costly.
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All the stuff about mice being "gaming mice" and all their special features is BS. Go to a store and put your hand on each one. Find the one that best molds into your hand and buy it online. It's all about feeling good and comfortable.
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On January 31 2011 15:56 TheMute wrote:
All the stuff about mice being "gaming mice" and all their special features is BS. Go to a store and put your hand on each one. Find the one that best molds into your hand and buy it online. It's all about feeling good and comfortable.
Haha okay, but I'm more so trying to figure out what mousepad would go well with this mouse.
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I suppose the "feeling good and comfortable" part goes for mousepads as well. e.g. I've never liked pads with a hard or glass-like surface. I have an everglide titan (had it for like 5 years now?), it's a rather soft cloth pad, and it still gives me that great feeling when sliding the mouse over it.
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Hmm it does seem like the Imperator works best with a hard mat, which would be the Sphex.
But between the Imperator and the DeathAdder, short of form preference, I'm lost. :O
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I use the Qck Mini as well and it's amazing for the price.
For mouse I use a Deathadder (old 1800dpi one) and would recommend that if you could find it anywhere, I heard the new 3500dpi ones have a buggy sensor.
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Func 1030 is by far the best mousepad I have ever used.
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On January 31 2011 16:24 Karliath wrote:
Hmm it does seem like the Imperator works best with a hard mat, which would be the Sphex.
But between the Imperator and the DeathAdder, short of form preference, I'm lost. :O
I'd recommend not getting the Sphex. It's initial performance is excellent, but it lacks durability, especially after heavy use. I had to replace my Sphex after less than a year because the surface had been literally polished by mouse use.
Also, the glue covering on the backside will eventually dissolve from the pad and be stuck to your desk instead. Which means you have to clean your desk thoroughly and the pad won't stick to surfaces anymore.
I've gotten a Steelseries Qck instead, which is pretty good.
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i use the sc2 spectra mouse with a steelseries qck mousepad i love the mouse i though it would be weird at first but i find it really comfortable and im not big on mousepads i dont feel much of a difference but i guess i prefer coths ones like the 1 i have.
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I use a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 and QCK Mass mousepad, but I am a quite low sensitivity user.
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Logitech MX518 and $0.5 mousepad
Been using the mouse for like 2 years, and it's the best mouse I ever used.
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Oh man I just watched a review where the glue of the Sphex does get nasty.
Do you guys know if a laser tracker on the mouse would still work well with a cloth, and not a hard mousepad?
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Also use an mx518, 5 years old :p
I use a razer destructor mousepad, but I'd recommend one of func's
http://www.func.net/
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got the imperator in use since a month now and i LOVE it.
if you palmgrip its not the perfect fit for big hands i think but a great for fingertip for non tiny hands.but that depends alot on the person i guess. with biggish hands i rest with a palmy grip in windows and while playing sc2/quake i fingergrip.
it has pretty much all features you could want, it tracks perfect in evry situation and with free 100-5600 dpi settings + driver setting + adjustable thumb buttons its highly customizable.
the only downside is the liftoff / z axis issue. if you use low sensitivity and / or lift the mouse up aton(friend of me has that weird style of cosntantly lifting and repositioning his mouse) this could be a problem. if not you wont even notice it ( im masters with about 190 real apm average and it hasnt failed me once in the slightest)
so if you are willing to spend the money and the liftoff thing is no problem for you i can only recommend the imperator. a high quality mouse with excellent quality,drivers and features.
for mousepad.. no clue. just use a random "cutesy" mousepad i got from my gf with a hardish plastic cover. :>
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Dpi is a marketing plot and the quality of a mousepad doesn't make any difference. Pick a mouse that feels good on your hand and weights the right amount. MX518+cheap fabric mousepad has proven to be a good mouse in both fps and rts.
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On January 31 2011 18:04 Karliath wrote:
Oh man I just watched a review where the glue of the Sphex does get nasty.
Do you guys know if a laser tracker on the mouse would still work well with a cloth, and not a hard mousepad?
The only laser mouse I have here is a Logitech MX1100 and it does not work on the QcK and Allsop Raindrop mousepads I have. It is completely broken on those mousepads and occasionally stops tracking for a bit as if it's a ball mouse where the rollers get regularly jammed because of dirt.
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On January 31 2011 18:04 Karliath wrote:
Do you guys know if a laser tracker on the mouse would still work well with a cloth, and not a hard mousepad?
It will work perfect on cloth.
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I'm looking for a mousepad also and I use the razer krait, which is an optical mouse. Any suggestions?
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I am currently using an imperator, and it has cut itself out over various sc games but more importantly as an FPS player it skips when i react too fast to something, it could be to do with the fact im using a goliathus mousepad but from personal experience i would have to inform you to steer clear of it, shame i have to use it T.T.
The best setup i have ever used is the 518 on a steelseries QCK+, can't go wrong with that good ol setup x]
GL with what you choose
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About the pad - dunno, got a cheap goliathus here and so far 2 years w/o any problems.
About the mouse - get something that's both comfortable and has good perfomance(how fast it'll go before it stops accelerating/starts skipping, whether it does weird stuff occasionally (philips twineye >.<), whether you can turn off drift control(probably gonna get some flame on me, but I can actually notice the difference), not the 583967dpi bullshit), not specs. How to check? ESReality are for real. The deathadder is missing from that page but they benchmarked it in their review. About the mx518 everybody keeps mentioning - totally worth it, only reason I ain't using it is that the MMB broke (excessive usage in SC2/blender3D/whatnot) and, well.... bulgarian warranty service >.< .
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Deathadder + QcK Heavy is as close to perfection as I have found.
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i looked into this for myself recently for a new laser mouse i bought. i hear the qck is good, and fairly cheap but i've heard that the traction on it can wear down fairly quickly in a few months.
it was close but i decided on the steelseries 4hd hard plastic mouse pad, which was specifically designed for laser mouses. it's 20 dollars, so it's medium priced and has a lot of cool features.
if they were in stock i would have gotten the icepad aka the experience i-2 glass mousepad, since it seemed that it was the most durable. i think the reason it's out of stock is because of their new aluminum one, but i didn't want to get that since it was too expensive and prone to finger prints.
hope that helped ^^
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Thanks a lot for the advice guys.
I think I'm going to stick with the Imperator and the Qck mini. At 6.99, It won't be a problem if things go wrong.
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On February 01 2011 00:33 Karliath wrote:
Thanks a lot for the advice guys.
I think I'm going to stick with the Imperator and the Qck mini. At 6.99, It won't be a problem if things go wrong.
Are you sure the mini is big enough? I had the medium sized QcK (Starcraft 2 version) and it was too small for me. Make sure you look at the dimensions and such.
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I am an owner of 2 razer diamondbacks and 1 razer imperator. While the mice is very good overall, all my of them started at some point(between 3 and 9 months) randomly disconnecting from my computers. And trust me, its really frustrating to have your mouse disconnect in the middle of a game.
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On January 31 2011 15:56 TheMute wrote:
All the stuff about mice being "gaming mice" and all their special features is BS. Go to a store and put your hand on each one. Find the one that best molds into your hand and buy it online. It's all about feeling good and comfortable.
that's the special thing with that exact mouse, IT FUCKING MOLDS INTO YOUR HAND. it's not just something you can get a comfy grip on, when you've got your hand on it it becomes a freaking part of your hand, THAT is how awesome it is.
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I prefer cloth mousepads to hard ones (cheaper, more comfortable, don't destroy the mouse feet, etc), but I've heard people having issues with lazer mice and cloth mousepads. So I actually recommend a good optical mouse and a good mousepad.
I echo what has been said before: COMFORT > ALL. Try the mouse if at all possible, and then figure out which mouse is most comfortable.
I use a razer deathadder with a goliathus mousepad, and it works great, but you need to find the mouse for you.
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Steelseries kinzu here.
Best mouse i've ever had ( tested deathadder, lolmx518, ime3.0, ), this one + a hard mat ( steelseries 4hd is perfect ) is the pure combo.
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On February 01 2011 00:40 scottyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 00:33 Karliath wrote:
Thanks a lot for the advice guys.
I think I'm going to stick with the Imperator and the Qck mini. At 6.99, It won't be a problem if things go wrong. Are you sure the mini is big enough? I had the medium sized QcK (Starcraft 2 version) and it was too small for me. Make sure you look at the dimensions and such.
Definitely. The one I am using now is even smaller, you know those standard school/office ones?
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Go with Logitech M100, thank me later and then buy 3 more for backup for less that some overhyped overpriced 'gaming' mouse.
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On January 31 2011 15:42 Karliath wrote:Hey guys, I think it's time for me to upgrade my mouse and mouse pad Since I am right handed, use a palm grip, and am currently using a logitech ergonomic mouse, I think I'm going to go with the Razer Imperator. (Objections can be raised now, lol.) To go with the mouse however, I can't decide whether to go with the SteelSeries QcK mini or, as Razer tells me, the Sphex. All I know is that the Imperator has a laser sensor, if that would make a differece. Also, the reason I would opt for a QcK mini instead of the regular one is because of size. I've been using those brandless mousepads that are 180x220x2mm for years now. Therefore, right now, I prefer the mini (but how good can it be at $7?) over the Sphex. If the Sphex is better though, I guess I could cope with its size. Thanks for your help!
I have that exact setup that you are looking at and I cannot be happier. The mouse fits comfortably and glides very smoothly over the mouse pad. I definitely saw an improvement in my precision since I upgraded. Previously, I had a logitech mouse and some random hard gaming mouse pad.
My old mouse for reference:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104178&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Mouse-_-Logitech-_-26104178
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On February 01 2011 11:50 drgoats wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 15:42 Karliath wrote:Hey guys, I think it's time for me to upgrade my mouse and mouse pad Since I am right handed, use a palm grip, and am currently using a logitech ergonomic mouse, I think I'm going to go with the Razer Imperator. (Objections can be raised now, lol.) To go with the mouse however, I can't decide whether to go with the SteelSeries QcK mini or, as Razer tells me, the Sphex. All I know is that the Imperator has a laser sensor, if that would make a differece. Also, the reason I would opt for a QcK mini instead of the regular one is because of size. I've been using those brandless mousepads that are 180x220x2mm for years now. Therefore, right now, I prefer the mini (but how good can it be at $7?) over the Sphex. If the Sphex is better though, I guess I could cope with its size. Thanks for your help! I have that exact setup that you are looking at and I cannot be happier. The mouse fits comfortably and glides very smoothly over the mouse pad. I definitely saw an improvement in my precision since I upgraded. Previously, I had a logitech mouse and some random hard gaming mouse pad. My old mouse for reference: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104178&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Mouse-_-Logitech-_-26104178
Must've be the mousepad then, because the MX518 has almost flawless tracking. If it weren't for the mouse correction it'd be perfect. :p
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