• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:06
CEST 03:06
KST 10:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup3StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)64Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Awesome/Confusing SC2 BM SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot JaeDong's ASL S22 Ro. 8 Review Bot on ladder Data analysis on 8 million games BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7883 users

Mouse/Mousepad

Blogs > Karliath
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
January 31 2011 06:42 GMT
#1
Hey guys, I think it's time for me to upgrade my mouse and mouse pad

Since I am right handed, use a palm grip, and am currently using a logitech ergonomic mouse, I think I'm going to go with the Razer Imperator. (Objections can be raised now, lol.)

To go with the mouse however, I can't decide whether to go with the SteelSeries QcK mini or, as Razer tells me, the Sphex.

All I know is that the Imperator has a laser sensor, if that would make a differece. Also, the reason I would opt for a QcK mini instead of the regular one is because of size. I've been using those brandless mousepads that are 180x220x2mm for years now. Therefore, right now, I prefer the mini (but how good can it be at $7?) over the Sphex. If the Sphex is better though, I guess I could cope with its size.

Thanks for your help!

lindn
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden833 Posts
January 31 2011 06:47 GMT
#2
http://www.mionix.net/page.php?al=naos5000
http://www.corporate.qpad.se/modules/news/article.php?storyid=231

best palm grip mouse in the world and best hardmat in the world (also comes in smaller size)

you don't have to thank me.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
January 31 2011 06:50 GMT
#3
I will consider the mouse, it also looks like what I am looking for.

The mousepad is way too expensive for me though
Considering that I'm "doing fine" on a 50 cent pad right now, I won't need something that costly.
TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
January 31 2011 06:56 GMT
#4
All the stuff about mice being "gaming mice" and all their special features is BS. Go to a store and put your hand on each one. Find the one that best molds into your hand and buy it online. It's all about feeling good and comfortable.
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
January 31 2011 06:59 GMT
#5
On January 31 2011 15:56 TheMute wrote:
All the stuff about mice being "gaming mice" and all their special features is BS. Go to a store and put your hand on each one. Find the one that best molds into your hand and buy it online. It's all about feeling good and comfortable.


Haha okay, but I'm more so trying to figure out what mousepad would go well with this mouse.
icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
January 31 2011 07:22 GMT
#6
I suppose the "feeling good and comfortable" part goes for mousepads as well. e.g. I've never liked pads with a hard or glass-like surface. I have an everglide titan (had it for like 5 years now?), it's a rather soft cloth pad, and it still gives me that great feeling when sliding the mouse over it.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
January 31 2011 07:24 GMT
#7
Hmm it does seem like the Imperator works best with a hard mat, which would be the Sphex.

But between the Imperator and the DeathAdder, short of form preference, I'm lost. :O
SuperXlax
Profile Joined March 2010
United States197 Posts
January 31 2011 07:36 GMT
#8
I use the Qck Mini as well and it's amazing for the price.

For mouse I use a Deathadder (old 1800dpi one) and would recommend that if you could find it anywhere, I heard the new 3500dpi ones have a buggy sensor.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
January 31 2011 08:18 GMT
#9
Func 1030 is by far the best mousepad I have ever used.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
January 31 2011 08:20 GMT
#10
On January 31 2011 16:24 Karliath wrote:
Hmm it does seem like the Imperator works best with a hard mat, which would be the Sphex.

But between the Imperator and the DeathAdder, short of form preference, I'm lost. :O


I'd recommend not getting the Sphex. It's initial performance is excellent, but it lacks durability, especially after heavy use. I had to replace my Sphex after less than a year because the surface had been literally polished by mouse use.

Also, the glue covering on the backside will eventually dissolve from the pad and be stuck to your desk instead. Which means you have to clean your desk thoroughly and the pad won't stick to surfaces anymore.

I've gotten a Steelseries Qck instead, which is pretty good.
DOMINOSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada345 Posts
January 31 2011 08:27 GMT
#11
i use the sc2 spectra mouse with a steelseries qck mousepad i love the mouse i though it would be weird at first but i find it really comfortable and im not big on mousepads i dont feel much of a difference but i guess i prefer coths ones like the 1 i have.
Sen Fighting!!! / JulyZerg Fighting!!! / Ret Fighting!!! / Reach Fighting!!! / well intentioned people of average intelligence
TheHunksta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States122 Posts
January 31 2011 08:29 GMT
#12
I use a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 and QCK Mass mousepad, but I am a quite low sensitivity user.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 31 2011 09:03 GMT
#13
Logitech MX518 and $0.5 mousepad
Been using the mouse for like 2 years, and it's the best mouse I ever used.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
January 31 2011 09:04 GMT
#14
Oh man I just watched a review where the glue of the Sphex does get nasty.


Do you guys know if a laser tracker on the mouse would still work well with a cloth, and not a hard mousepad?
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
January 31 2011 09:07 GMT
#15
Also use an mx518, 5 years old :p

I use a razer destructor mousepad, but I'd recommend one of func's
http://www.func.net/
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 09:43:32
January 31 2011 09:38 GMT
#16
got the imperator in use since a month now and i LOVE it.

if you palmgrip its not the perfect fit for big hands i think but a great for fingertip for non tiny hands.but that depends alot on the person i guess. with biggish hands i rest with a palmy grip in windows and while playing sc2/quake i fingergrip.

it has pretty much all features you could want, it tracks perfect in evry situation and with free 100-5600 dpi settings + driver setting + adjustable thumb buttons its highly customizable.


the only downside is the liftoff / z axis issue. if you use low sensitivity and / or lift the mouse up aton(friend of me has that weird style of cosntantly lifting and repositioning his mouse) this could be a problem. if not you wont even notice it ( im masters with about 190 real apm average and it hasnt failed me once in the slightest)



so if you are willing to spend the money and the liftoff thing is no problem for you i can only recommend the imperator. a high quality mouse with excellent quality,drivers and features.



for mousepad.. no clue. just use a random "cutesy" mousepad i got from my gf with a hardish plastic cover. :>
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
tealc
Profile Joined October 2010
109 Posts
January 31 2011 10:14 GMT
#17
Dpi is a marketing plot and the quality of a mousepad doesn't make any difference. Pick a mouse that feels good on your hand and weights the right amount. MX518+cheap fabric mousepad has proven to be a good mouse in both fps and rts.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
January 31 2011 10:29 GMT
#18
On January 31 2011 18:04 Karliath wrote:
Oh man I just watched a review where the glue of the Sphex does get nasty.


Do you guys know if a laser tracker on the mouse would still work well with a cloth, and not a hard mousepad?


The only laser mouse I have here is a Logitech MX1100 and it does not work on the QcK and Allsop Raindrop mousepads I have. It is completely broken on those mousepads and occasionally stops tracking for a bit as if it's a ball mouse where the rollers get regularly jammed because of dirt.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
SuperXlax
Profile Joined March 2010
United States197 Posts
January 31 2011 11:13 GMT
#19
On January 31 2011 18:04 Karliath wrote:
Do you guys know if a laser tracker on the mouse would still work well with a cloth, and not a hard mousepad?

It will work perfect on cloth.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
January 31 2011 12:32 GMT
#20
I'm looking for a mousepad also and I use the razer krait, which is an optical mouse. Any suggestions?
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
08:00
Best Games of SC
BASILISK vs T1
Maru vs Clem
Serral vs herO
Clem vs SHIN
PiGStarcraft469
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
07:00
Masters Cup #151: Group B
davetesta17
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft469
WinterStarcraft248
RuFF_SC2 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 762
White-Ra 158
Noble 79
NaDa 76
Hyuk 57
Bale 15
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm145
LuMiX0
League of Legends
Doublelift4629
Counter-Strike
taco 310
minikerr21
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox612
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor707
Other Games
summit1g7946
Coldzera 833
JimRising 509
C9.Mang0338
ViBE66
ArmadaUGS45
Mew2King45
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick667
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream87
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 103
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21163
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
8h 54m
Online Event
9h 54m
FEL
14h 54m
AI Arena Tournament
15h 54m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
17h 54m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 8h
INu's Battles
1d 10h
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 17h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 17h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
3 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
5 days
INu's Battles
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Copium Cup
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.