• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:46
CEST 07:46
KST 14:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play0Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)49ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo25Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) take on 5.0.16 ?Bug in new patch ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet
Tourneys
[BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Rogue Command ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7237 users

EU-Ranking - Page 4

Blogs > DiaBoLuS
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 Next All
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 01:02:23
March 23 2011 01:01 GMT
#61
Wow completely agree with your rankings this time as it fully reflects results, although in the future I see thorzain, lalush, sase and grubby moving up one tbh
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
March 23 2011 21:13 GMT
#62
Haypro madly underrated?
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 23 2011 22:24 GMT
#63
On March 23 2011 10:01 shaunnn wrote:
Wow completely agree with your rankings this time as it fully reflects results, although in the future I see thorzain, lalush, sase and grubby moving up one tbh


I agree, this time there is not much I would have done differently. I definitely want to see every single players with 3 stars and more in the NASL
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
March 27 2011 21:22 GMT
#64
thanks for the comments. ill try to keep it updated, not too much happened so far.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 22:52:13
March 27 2011 22:05 GMT
#65
beastyqt at least 2 if not 3 stars, cloud definitely 4 stars. lucifron actually in that list (and above beasty)? rofl, that guy bascially gave up his career after DH... i would like to see grubby higher but he probably has yet to prove himself.
@nowSimon
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
March 28 2011 01:16 GMT
#66
Here is what I don't agree with:

- Kuba and DarkForcE separated by 2 stars

- Brat_Ok 4 Stars with ClouD, GoOdy, Strelok having 3

- Ciara 3 stars

- BeastyQT 1 star
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
March 28 2011 01:19 GMT
#67
On March 28 2011 10:16 Leviance wrote:
Here is what I don't agree with:

- Kuba and DarkForcE separated by 2 stars

- Brat_Ok 4 Stars with ClouD, GoOdy, Strelok having 3

- Ciara 3 stars

- BeastyQT 1 star


ciara should have less? strelok definitely needs 4.
@nowSimon
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
March 28 2011 01:24 GMT
#68
Agree largely, just put

Strelok
Cloud
TLO

in 4 star category.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
March 29 2011 10:47 GMT
#69
hm, kuba maybe needs 2 stars.
For beasty i do not agree, since he simply plays a lot of tours - any other player in the 1* with so many tours played would have equal sucess imo.

lucifron is back apparently, but i guess 1 star is enough.

as for TLO, ClouD, Strelok, there should be a 3.5 category. BratOK would be fitting there as well since he doesnt show too huge results lately. Dno what i do with them yet - maybe ill make the **** to ***** as jinro is, since they perform great in gsl world championship so far.

this would open more space for players like cloud to have a higher rating than probably darkforce or nightend.

new player in 1* will be XlorD.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 22:02:24
March 31 2011 21:59 GMT
#70
Thats really a good list.
Jinro might not deserve a category of his own anymore though, seeing how he played recently.

And I would not say that Darkforce is better then Lalush or Nerchio.

Off-season = best season
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 22:43:07
March 31 2011 22:31 GMT
#71
You should add a date when you updated the list (maybe I just didn't find it). I would maybe switch some players one star up, or down, but in general is this ranking good.

EDIT: I think Naama is listed way too low. I would have maybe even not listed him, or listed him higher. Does he even play a lot right now? I haven't seen him play since Homestory Cup . Maybe he just doesn't go far in tournaments. I don't know.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 17:17:12
April 02 2011 17:12 GMT
#72
updated - hf!

€: Naama just played MLG and lost to a relatively unkown player. He plays some cups from time to time - not too much though.

Isn't there anyone who is that much into the NA scene to be able to make such a list?
Would be pretty nice!
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Pelopidas
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada225 Posts
April 02 2011 17:27 GMT
#73
I think your list is solid with one exception, cloud is above goody. That's impossible.
Esports killed Starcraft
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 23:42:30
April 04 2011 21:10 GMT
#74
Possible changes on the new list
- Nerchio ** --> ***
- Stephano * --> **
- Lowely --> *
- Seiplo --> *
- StarEagle --> *
- Thinking about deleting Lucifron, since he would probably be a **** player while active, but atm he plays 1 cup / month^^

will update it tomorrow.

players like miou, inuh and many more have to proof a little more to get into my list
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
April 07 2011 19:47 GMT
#75
really nice thread, nice graphic, almost perfect list :D
MESeidel
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany326 Posts
April 07 2011 20:24 GMT
#76
Pretty good list actually!

I'm a bit worried about Dimaga's weakness in ZvP.
It's no easy matchup as of now, but it certainly is not impossible.
I mean it seems like he complains more than actually trying new ideas.
Maybe he got somewhat in a wrong mindset harming his play there.
Even his ling/bane drop vs P cannon FE doesn't look stable, while other Zerg just demolish Protoss for being that greedy.
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
April 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#77
nice to see u put kas up to 5*, i totally agree. probably the best foreign terran atm.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
April 10 2011 20:43 GMT
#78
Maybe Kas even needs a own category ! :D
Hes completly dominating the european scene in my eyes
And now he 3:0s Nada, this guy is such a machine
Walkyrion
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany28 Posts
April 11 2011 16:42 GMT
#79
i like the graphic soooooooo much <3
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 12 2011 12:25 GMT
#80
Updated today.

hf guys!
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft716
Nina 141
SortOf 111
StateSC2 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4240
GuemChi 3151
Shuttle 1364
Yoon 371
Tasteless 181
Bale 85
Aegong 48
Icarus 7
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
summit1g9045
Coldzera 1241
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox599
Mew2King94
Other Games
Doublelift2584
ViBE148
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick661
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush964
• Stunt895
• RayReign43
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
4h 14m
OSC
11h 14m
Douyu Cup 2020
23h 14m
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
1d 10h
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 23h
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.